I'd suggest you take a five minute detour on your way to one of the games to the Ozanam Mens Shelter on Abeel Street in New Brunswick. It's two blocks off of Route 18. Bring a couple of pizzas with you and see what a small gesture does for the 40 or so men who are down and out for a whole variety of reasons. I would bet you'll be back there again. $$$$
People leave jobs for different reasons involving money, including an additional $10k sometimes. That is now what NIL offers. You won't be able to make sense of it because it is not you that is making the decision to leave. Its a new world order. Everyone for themselves (schools, players and fans).
If you haven't already, consider taking what Jerry Seinfeld said to heart -- in the end we're rooting for the clothes (or laundry), and nothing else.
Rooting for the clothes
If you haven't already, consider taking what Jerry Seinfeld said to heart -- in the end we're rooting for the clothes (or laundry), and nothing else.
Rooting for the clothes
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I agree. The Tower’s would have definitely stepped up. Pike doesn’t appreciate the last minute crap and doesn’t want to encourage this crap. He’s a coach who cares about his players and their well being where as Cooley and Ricky could care less about them beyond how they help them win. Wait to Cooley and Ricky start a revolving door of players who don’t live up to expectations.
It's halfway to 20% down on a house. Huge when you're 23
What about him, or what do you know about him personally, that screams “a kid like cam would be mature enough to know what he could make in the future”?
There’s a difference of course of earning this money when he has no other expenses vs. earning money as a graduate who has to pay fixed expenses. But let’s put that aside for now.
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Another scenario to explain the process that occurred is this. Cam expressed his desire to be compensated for his contribution to the team this past year. Pikiell said he would look into Cam's request. At that point the head coach decided to scour the portal for a replacement while simultaneously seeking funding for Cam. Having found a player, but no one to help compensate Cam, he brought Fernandez into the fold. These events made Cam feel unappreciated and unwanted, resulting in his entry to the portal. Why couldn't the coach come up with the money to keep Cam?
Our fans keep mentioning one individual whenever funds are needed. It is time our fans face up to the fact that lack of fan financial support will lead to future disappointment repeatedly. My interpretation of those who say, NIL is ruining their interest in college sports, really mean our fans will never cough up enough, in the way of contributions, to keep RU competitive . Fans want RU to be a big time sport school without being a big time contributing fan base. Good luck with that.
We don’t know for sure that it was just $90k?
Georgetown was apparently a player for Dickinson. They were offering big bucks to him so it appears.
Dickinson goes to Kansas and GTown still has the money to now poach Cam.
Cam is from the area so makes sense logistically
Also maybe Cam felt his minutes / importance would be reduced with Noah and Gavin.
Who knows?
All I know is that NIL needs to be and should be regulated by the NCAA or by the conferences.
Georgetown was apparently a player for Dickinson. They were offering big bucks to him so it appears.
Dickinson goes to Kansas and GTown still has the money to now poach Cam.
Cam is from the area so makes sense logistically
Also maybe Cam felt his minutes / importance would be reduced with Noah and Gavin.
Who knows?
All I know is that NIL needs to be and should be regulated by the NCAA or by the conferences.
He doesn’t have any social media for starters.
And all of the press, interviews and videos made it seem like he was a mature kid.
I agree. That’s not enough to leave a good situation and shit on your team. There must be more to the story. Either it’s more money or he fell for a load of bs or he would rather have a different degree or girlfriend or who knows. I can’t believe he was getting zero at ru so we’re talking a small amount here. Something is off
There doesn’t have to be some secret reason to leave a good situation for a better situation. And he alone assigns the value to those differences, no one else does.
Although I contend Danny B made it clear staff didn’t do, or couldn’t do, what they decided to do for Mag.
I’m not assuming why he left other than assuming he feels it’s a better situation for him than the one he is in now.
The easy to guess reasons for why he might feel that way are obvious but I won’t pretend it’s why he did it. In no specific order:
-Close to home
-Liked Gtown more than RU forever
-Better NIL
-Better offensive system
-Better stipend/cost-of-living
-Mag NIL
-Fernandes NIL (?)
Dare I add he knows of a potential cliff decision? That’s speculation so I won’t include it in the list.
Bottom line is RU does not have $90K in NIL to offer Cam. If you think otherwise, you are uninformed. Very sad new era for RU.
This is such a dumb post.
You think $60k, managed correctly, wouldn't change the life of a person who is currently homeless? You don't think $60k is a lot of money to the average 22 year old??
Many of us have been fortunate and/or successful enough to where $60k is not life changing money (though it's still a pretty good chunk of money ffs). But to deny the simple fact that $60k is a shitload of money to the average American is absurd.
FYI if you stuck $60k in an S&P 500 fund at age 22 and return 7% per year after inflation that would be $1.26mm (inflation adjusted) by age 67.
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So your point is that theyll take the $60K, wont touch a dime and then turn it into $1,260,147.11 (which is the exact number and doesnt account for inflation fyi) in 45 years? Interesting. So for the next 45 years after they receive this 60K their life doesnt…. Change, right.
Ill say it again. If I gave you $60K right now, what are you doing with it that would change your life?
Wow. If true, that is indeed sad and we will be in trouble very soon. What’s even the point then? It sounds like you could have a situation with Ace and Dylan playing with 3 walk-ons. You know they’ll never suit up for that.
(1) It does account for inflation. I said it returns 7% after inflation, i.e. 7% real returns. So that would be $1,260,147.11 in 2023 dollars. If you assume the returns are 9% and the inflation is 2% then it is $2,899,637.17 nominally which is worth the same as $1,260,147.11 today. But this is kind of besides the point.
(2) No, I do not expect someone to actually do this.
It changes slightly. They can spend slightly more of their income without needing to save it. Or they can buy a Mercedes today which also "changes" your life but w/e. Or, if they are one of the millions of Americans who can't cover a $400 emergency expense they can breathe a lot easier.
Me? I'm going to buy 156 more shares of VOO and be slightly happier that the number on my brokerage account has gone up.
Surprised Rutgers could not match Cam's NIL offer to go elsewhere. I guess RU doesn't have as much NIL money as I thought.
I agree with you. But look, he got what he wanted out of RU, will finish out at Georgetown, where he grew up near, and who knows, maybe he thinks he'll be the Big Cheese there rather than a role player at RU. In fairness, once BIG figured him out, he wasn't contributing like he was first half of season. Time to move on.
Awww yea. All possible legit reasons! Can't fault him...good luck to onions...next man up! Go RU
Sure, 90k isn’t much in the grand scheme of things (not peanuts either), but when you’re paying Mag NIL, Fernandes NIL, rest of team probably a little something to keep them, Ace NIL, Dellquan NIL, Lathan NIL, probably a major bag for Cliff to make it worth coming back and engaged in a bidding war for Dylan Harper, it adds up. And to the donor who has seemingly given us this ability to recruit with the big dogs, it seems they probably aren’t too concerned about paying a huge chunk to someone that isn’t going to be here after this season. In a way his departure leaves room for more experience for the guys that will be here the season after. I can see why one would leave it be.
BIG had figured him out anyway. Also, though very talented, his game isn't the sort that wins titles nowadays.
I agree with KYK to an extent. This is a well spoken kid who built a great network at Rutgers. Another season would’ve positioned him with plenty of post college options that easily clear this number for years to come. Pike has always helped his loyal players make a name for themselves after playing. There are coaching opportunities, trainer opportunities, broadcast possibilities, etc. These kids aren’t your average Joes. They have a brand name which gives them a major leg up in starting a basketball related career.
$90k is not comparatively a lot of money in the grand scheme of things - but if it’s Georgetown, maybe he just thinks building a network closer to home is better for his long term future? Definitely a risk though because if it doesn’t work out there he burned some bridges that could’ve helped with a recurring income stream in the future whereas this payment is a one time deal.
$90k is not comparatively a lot of money in the grand scheme of things - but if it’s Georgetown, maybe he just thinks building a network closer to home is better for his long term future? Definitely a risk though because if it doesn’t work out there he burned some bridges that could’ve helped with a recurring income stream in the future whereas this payment is a one time deal.
60K in your early/mid 20’s invested properly is a ton of money later in life. You’re just plain wrong about this.
You don’t leave a school and program you love for even $90k. You’re a kid — you have your whole life ahead of you to make money. You stay, have fun, play ball with your buddies and for a coach you respect for one last year. In the process you become a real part of the program and it’s history.
Of course, if you don’t love the school, the coach, the other players, you walk for the bag and no one will remember you by next April.
Of course, if you don’t love the school, the coach, the other players, you walk for the bag and no one will remember you by next April.
If it’s Georgetown I hope they paid him a lot of money. This isn’t the 1980s. Playing in front of small crowds and losing lots of games
Sorry but Georgetown and the Big East are not on the same level as Rutgers and the Big 10 basketball exposure wise. This move is not about winning. It’s probably about money, position competition and/or affinity for Georgetown. Rutgers has a better coach, team and platform and perhaps would have given same money. This may boil down to him wanting to be the face of a program. At RU he was part of a team.
Pike moving on quickly says a lot.
GO RU
Pike moving on quickly says a lot.
GO RU
I'm thinking your response makes my top 5 stupid posts of the year for a variety of reasons.
90k is a pretty good starting salary out of college … not insignificant … plus he gets his degree … I’m sure it’s not easy to leave your teammates, but people switch jobs for more money so can’t be angry … he was fun to watch, wish he stayed and the team got a little weaker that he’s leaving.
Cam is likely listening to his older Pat, who played just one Covid-shortened year of college ball with weaker stats than Cam against similar competition.
Pat parlayed that into a season in Germany followed by two seasons and counting in the in the NBA G-League.
Perhaps Cam believes moving on from team Pike 2023-24 version improves his chance to launch a pro career as his brother Pat has achieved.
I doubt Cam is being advised by a crazy uncle or is after a bigger NIL check so he can show off a fancy new car.
Pat parlayed that into a season in Germany followed by two seasons and counting in the in the NBA G-League.
Perhaps Cam believes moving on from team Pike 2023-24 version improves his chance to launch a pro career as his brother Pat has achieved.
I doubt Cam is being advised by a crazy uncle or is after a bigger NIL check so he can show off a fancy new car.
Spoken like an adult who has done some living and realizes there’s more to life than a quick buck.
This is getting out of hand
It’s one thing (and I agree) with that in this NIL market to say that $90000 per
Tax sounds like a low nunber to get someone move on so perceived quickly and to say there feels like there is more to this story than money
But …it’s ridic to project oneself to someone else and say its not the right move , and worse , a bad move
People have different issues and experiences and while $90,000 may be chunp to one person, $90,000 can be massively life changing to somone else
Time to get real and some perspective here
It’s one thing (and I agree) with that in this NIL market to say that $90000 per
Tax sounds like a low nunber to get someone move on so perceived quickly and to say there feels like there is more to this story than money
But …it’s ridic to project oneself to someone else and say its not the right move , and worse , a bad move
People have different issues and experiences and while $90,000 may be chunp to one person, $90,000 can be massively life changing to somone else
Time to get real and some perspective here
