Addition by subtraction

[rutgers4life11]

The talent argument faction will never cease to amaze me. It's like arguing an orange is an orange.

Of course talent is a factor, but we were dead last in nearly every single offensive category. In many games we were playing 2nd and 3rd string defenses for entire halves. Our largely in tact offensive line from last year somehow regressed from a unit that was ranked in the middle of the big 10 to last. Our RBs who were also the same and a bright spot went from scoring 35 tds over 2 years to scoring 3 this year.

But oh don't look at the 50-60 teams who have recruited worse than us who are statistically better and could certainly top our offense in play!

The beauty of all this is the talent argument will be put on full display next year if we get a good OC. And if that guy coaches his butt off to an improvement of 20-30 spots in statistical rankings, the "it's talent not coaching" camp will be proven wrong.

 

[bossnj1]

The point I made is bolded below and I stand by it. Look at the stats, any kid that played in '15 & '16 did better in '15.

A coach's job is to take the talent you have and make it better. The bottom line is that Flood and company did a better job than DM did with many of these kids.

I will start with the OL - There is no comparison so I will not waste my time, they were all worse.

Rushing - Martin and Hicks both down in average per carry and total yards in '16. Goodwin was up but had only 11 carries last year.

Receivers - Patton was flat. Grant hurt this year so not a fair comparison. Arcidiacono flat and Agudosi down. As we know nobody filled the Caroo void.

Passing - I will just look at overall and it is down in a big way. Total yards and completion percentage.

Punt and kick return yardage were down also but I won't hold that against boy wonder.

And let's not forget that Ash said they'd adjust their schemes to fit the strengths of the existing players. That assertion was repeated often, and may have been believable before the season started however there was no evidence of that during the season.

 

[RU85inFla]

Dude, I honestly don't know why you even bother. There's an old Hungarian saying about an argument that falls on deaf ears- it's like throwing peppercorns at the wall. They just bounce around the room, roll under the furniture, and you'll be stepping on them for days, LOL.

For the life of me I cannot understand why it is so difficult for so many here to grasp that the transition from a pro-style offense and associated play book and blocking schemes to a spread offense is a multi-year prospect. You don't unlearn three or four years of muscle memory in a single training camp. Sadly, I know what's going to happen- the next OC that comes in will have better results because the players will have a year under their belt and they will point to this as proof that Drew sucked. Just like when Schiano tried to go to the spread in Savage's sophomore year with Captain Kirk as OC, there was a huge dropoff because of the new system and everyone decided Kirk sucked. We went back to pro-style, there was improvement, see Kirk clearly sucked. Only he didn't really suck, not going 13-0 as OC at WMU this year, did he?

Yeah, Drew sucked so bad he was made co-coordinator at Texas (per Ryan Dunleavy). Tom Herman has a great deal of faith in him. Was he good/bad/indifferent at RU? Anyone who thinks they have a sure answer to that is full of it- we just don't have enough of a body of work to judge that on.


If you believe this, then I don't even know what to say to you. Just wow. The only thing I can equate this to is my ex-wife's aunt Josephine, who used to tell us Mussolini was OK, because he was the only one who could get the trains to run on time.

I stopped reading at the muscle memory comment. Clueless how foolish that comment is.

 

[czxqa]

I stopped reading at the muscle memory comment. Clueless how foolish that comment is.

Says the fool who claims Flood did a better job at player development.

 

[seels2662]

The "its talent" contingent seriously needs to stop all you are doing is showing how little you know about football. DM took the little talent we had and made it the worst offense in college football in years. He had no idea how to work with what he had and kept on trying to to fit square pegs in round holes. Almost noone developed under his system and many regressed. The fact that Ash told DM to put in Gio because he saw more out of him running the scout team that DM completely missed and then when Gios number was called DM, in the middle of the game-and this is the gods honest truth-had to ask Gio if he knew the playbook because he didn't know if he did...is crazy.

 

[RU#1fan]

Bill Walsh couldn't put up points with this talent. Ash, Drew, whoever. They may suck, they may be the next great coaches. You can't make a determination off of last year.

Recruit.

BS. A competent OC would have had shown improvement .