Alex Barbir officially gone
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Couldn't have said it better myself, because that's basically what I've been saying all along, except for the Terry Shea part, lol.
So basically your saying a combined 18-20 on fgs was not good and your going to waste a scholarship on another kicker because kickoffs were hit or miss. Like I said have fun with kickoffs for the next three years Babir. Also your telling me your coach would have cut arguably one of the greatest kickers in college and Pro football because he was over weight. Ha Ha Ha! Hell of a coach you got there. And the kicker I'm talking about is Sebastian Janakowski who was a little rolly polly in college and in the pros. That is not a valid reason to cut a kicker I'm sorry.
I agree, give this staff some time to show what they can do running a program and coaching a football team.....plus, I thought I read that this kid always liked Penn St., so now that they offer, he gets to go there.
What are you talking about? You seriously think Alex or the other "best recruits" would've stuck around with Kyle here? They were gone when these offers came in, with or without Flood.
Well then it's definitely Flood's fault. [/sarcasm]
Notice, I'm not saying it's Ash's fault.
Unless Ash can bring this team to new heights, the Flood blame game will never end. Many of us still blame Terry Shea.
Blaming Shea? That's ridiculous. People stopped blaming Shea after GS brought us to our first bowl game.
There's many quality kickers from the northeast that would like to be here.. Here's a bunch.
http://www.newjerseykickingcamp.com/rankings.html
http://www.newjerseykickingcamp.com/rankings.html
This has nothing to do with Ash, or Flood, Babir's 1st love is State Penn. The minute the PSU kicker commit switched over to Meeechigan, this happening was pretty much a given. Move on folks.
Make me punk!
I remember you bashing Flood and players (Laviano) every day. Now you are telling me to stop.
Anytime Punk!
You're not going to win with this guy. Don't even bother. He'd be much happier with 1-11 seasons coached by Flood.
Barbir will take over kickoffs from Day 1 most likely, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he is handling all of the kicking duties coming out of summer camp; in fact, I expect him to be. The reality is he has a much better pedigree than Davis, who made the kicks he should make but isn't even really an option beyond 40 yards.
Special teams have been a major problem for Penn State the past few seasons. Our punting, or lack thereof, and weak kickoffs, combined with below-average coverage teams due to them including a number of walk-ons, have resulted in poor average starting field position in relation to our opponents. I expect that to change in the very near future. Three or five yards on a given drive doesn't sound like a world of difference, but over the course of the season it can make an impact.
I get what you're saying but this is a case of a kid growing up - for some reason - wanting to go to Penn State his entire life. Not much the staff could do in this case, IMHO, and I'd bet any amount of money that the staff who got his commit would have lost him as well and it's not one even I'd blame them for lol! Oh well, next up, and let him be a kid who GREW UP wanting to kick for RU!
So what we are all saying is this is actually Harbaugh's fault.
The weight and fitness of the kicker is 98% irrelevant, only a factor when it affects his ability to save a TD on a return, or if you want to run a Les Miles style fake FG with him catching an over the head toss from the holder.
I wanted to keep this commit but if he wants to join the Happy Valley cult, then so be it.
The weight and fitness of the kicker is 98% irrelevant, only a factor when it affects his ability to save a TD on a return, or if you want to run a Les Miles style fake FG with him catching an over the head toss from the holder.
I wanted to keep this commit but if he wants to join the Happy Valley cult, then so be it.
Mike, Kirby Smart was at Georgia for 2 weeks and got the re-confirmation from one of the top 3 QB prospects in the nation. He also got the no 1 TE to commit to Georgia.
There are many new coaches who have gotten some highly rated players.
It's funny how the holy Penn State fans cry and cry hard about how Harbough doesn't have honor and are stealing their recruits. Penn State is after Pitt , Illinois and our recruits just like Michigan. We just have to wait till 2017, when Franklin gets canned and more kaos in Happy Valley.
Do you think it's fair to compare our program with Georgia?
That's a great comparison, on a more serious note, it really isn't.
So we should shoot for ODU or Buffalo comparisons? If we want to be on par with top 20 programs then we need to aim higher than Buffalo, ODU, UMASS or D 1AA schools.
I think the issue with Harbaugh is more about the way he is going about this. Pulling offers from kids a week or two before Signing Day shouldn't be deemed acceptable by anyone; this isn't the SEC. And I don't want to hear that it's a two-way street because kids also go back on their commitments. The reality is, if you don't hold a coach making millions of dollars to a higher standard than 17- and 18-year-olds trying to make the biggest decision of their young lives, you probably care too much about recruiting.
As for Harbaugh as he relates to Nordin and Dwumfour, I hope the kids end up happy with their choices, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little worried for them. It's still unclear if Nordin has a committable offer or is only being asked to attend UM as a grayshirt. And I don't think it's any coincidence that Dwumfour happens to be close friends with Rashan Gary. If Gary heads to USC or to the SEC, will Dwumfour's UM offer still be there? How many kids are going to be turned away by Harbaugh after being committed for so long? It's my opinion that recruiting in this manner will bring some near-term benefits, but very possibly long-term problems.
Snap your fingers and it will happen...this might come as a shock but we aren't going to become a top 20 program in 1 month. Hell, we didn't even sniff the top 20 with the last regime and they were at it for 4 years. I bring up the last regime for comparison purposes only, lol.
I bashed Fludd a lot but never Laviano. Never have bashed a player. Your post is a microcosim of all your other posts, totally not based on reality. Lol.
Yes, 18-20 combined but that does not tell the full story whatsoever.
Julius' long was 40 yards. Davis' long was 42. Julius missed 4 extra points and had at least one FG try blocked because - again - he has an extremely low trajectory. I'm not going to dig through game logs for the sake of making a point on the internet but Julius also had several illegal procedure calls against him, and Davis doesn't have the leg to get consistent touchbacks on kickoffs. Certainly the kicking game overall was better in 2015 than it's been the last few years but there's a reason that Penn State is spending scholarships on both a kicker and a punter this cycle.
And yes, if Julius had Janikowski's leg this wouldn't be an issue. But he doesn't and his weight is definitely affecting his ability to get lift on kicks. Janikowski was 6'1'' and listed at 258. Julius is 5'10'' and listed at 259, and Janikowski had a lot more muscle.
Neither kicker at PSU is on scholarship, Barbir will be the only scholarship PK on the team. Julius has a big leg and is terribly inaccurate. He "punches" the ball, his kicks have a low trajectory, and wobble like a knuckle ball. That is why he lost his job to Davis mid-season... it had nothing to do with his weight. Davis is accurate in close, but doesn't have a leg for much outside of 35-40 yards. He only attempted a single kick over 40 yards (42) and barley got it there. They are both walk-ons who had no scholarship offers out of HS (Julius had some offers for soccer). They were bandaids for a terrible kicking situation and there is a reason getting a kicker was a priority. Barbir should easily be the best PK on the team the moment he gets to campus. Honestly, you clearly don't have a clue what you are talking about here...
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Due to ScarletNation's ridiculing that God-awful masonry work, as captured in the infamous porch photo from RU's official visit to the Barbir home. Done in by shoddy mortar. Damn. Whereas Franklin complimented the work, even asking for the mason's name and number.
Why can't we ask a simple question like what school's offer would make you flip your commit to RU?
Isn't this the ultimate question that is not being asked?
if it is asked, then we are constantly being lied to.
What are these kids learning in school?
All the high schools I thought teach kids integrity, honesty, etc.
It does not look good for our educational system by the way these kids are behaving.
They are producing punks.
Isn't this the ultimate question that is not being asked?
if it is asked, then we are constantly being lied to.
What are these kids learning in school?
All the high schools I thought teach kids integrity, honesty, etc.
It does not look good for our educational system by the way these kids are behaving.
They are producing punks.
Sleazy move by a kicker to fail to honor a commitment at the last minute after holding the spot so long.
I think kicking out of the endzone in college is not as important as it once was as the ball comes to the 25. Personally I would recommend most college players take the knee if the ball is caught in the endzone because I would guess average when taken from the endzone is about the 20.
Do kids not on scholarships have the same transfer rules as scholarship players? If the current PSU kicker is a walkon and money from 40 and in I would offer him a schollie as we have never had anyone that I felt was automatic from anywhere.
I think kicking out of the endzone in college is not as important as it once was as the ball comes to the 25. Personally I would recommend most college players take the knee if the ball is caught in the endzone because I would guess average when taken from the endzone is about the 20.
Do kids not on scholarships have the same transfer rules as scholarship players? If the current PSU kicker is a walkon and money from 40 and in I would offer him a schollie as we have never had anyone that I felt was automatic from anywhere.
Not true at all. It's part of recruiting. The problem is his processing of players 10 days out from LOI. And Nordin did not decommitt as his twitter still lists him as comitted to Penn State. Penn State walked away. As of now he still doesn't have a MI offer.
PatrickRU92 we could definitely use your help with this guy. A nice gif should do.
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