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Anyone watching Kovalev tonight?

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The undercard with Pascal and Gonzalez was a great fight. I would have scored it a draw, but Pascal got the nod.
 
Ya, the undercard was a much better fight to say the least. Kovalev's opponent was a second or third tier fighter at best. It was a paycheck and kept him active between real opponents.
 
Gonzalez threw more punches. Pascal was more accurate. They both connected on nearly the exactly the same number of power punches. Neither one controlled the fight. Sounds like a draw to me.

Just because Larry Merchant scored it 97-93 Gonzalez doesn't mean that is actually what happened. Three judges scored it 96-94 Pascal, so obviously it was a close fight and hard to score.
 
Gonzalez threw more punches. Pascal was more accurate. They both connected on nearly the exactly the same number of power punches. Neither one controlled the fight. Sounds like a draw to me.

Just because Larry Merchant scored it 97-93 Gonzalez doesn't mean that is actually what happened. Three judges scored it 96-94 Pascal, so obviously it was a close fight and hard to score.
It's decisions like last night that give boxing a rep as a semi-fixed sport
 
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Gonzalez threw more punches. Pascal was more accurate. They both connected on nearly the exactly the same number of power punches. Neither one controlled the fight. Sounds like a draw to me.

Just because Larry Merchant scored it 97-93 Gonzalez doesn't mean that is actually what happened. Three judges scored it 96-94 Pascal, so obviously it was a close fight and hard to score.

But one fighter did control the fight. Gonzalez controlled the center of the ring, and was the aggressor for the entire fight, save portions of two rounds. Pascal was hunting and picking and backing up the entire fight. I understand the early toss up rounds going to the champ, but in that fight there was no excuse for Gonzalez not having won. Maybe I could see a draw, but even that would have been tough to stomach.

Kovalev is a pleasure to watch. It is incredible to see him fight, because his opponents are just visibly terrified of his power. He is willing to fight anyone, and hopefully gets the Ward fight next, since Stevenson isn't going to happen.
 
Just watched it. Kovalev is good. Looks like a cruiser weight as opposed to a light heavyweight. Also French guy was a tomato can.
Kovalev is one of the best fighters out there now, along with GGG. I just hope other top guys stop dunking them!
 
But one fighter did control the fight. Gonzalez controlled the center of the ring, and was the aggressor for the entire fight, save portions of two rounds. Pascal was hunting and picking and backing up the entire fight. I understand the early toss up rounds going to the champ, but in that fight there was no excuse for Gonzalez not having won. Maybe I could see a draw, but even that would have been tough to stomach.

Kovalev is a pleasure to watch. It is incredible to see him fight, because his opponents are just visibly terrified of his power. He is willing to fight anyone, and hopefully gets the Ward fight next, since Stevenson isn't going to happen.

I do not disagree that Gonzalez was in the middle of the ring and throwing more, but that does not mean he controlled the fight to me. Floyd has made an undefeated career of letting the other guy control the center of the ring and throw more punches.

That being said, I think it was a draw.
 
I do not disagree that Gonzalez was in the middle of the ring and throwing more, but that does not mean he controlled the fight to me. Floyd has made an undefeated career of letting the other guy control the center of the ring and throw more punches.

That being said, I think it was a draw.

I agree with you on outcome and see your point, but the difference is that Floyd is an anomaly defensively. He wins because he never lets anyone land punches like that. Floyd dances, but in the meantime he picks and out lands his opponents by a significant margin. That is how he wins -- he's punching the whole time. He never concedes equal power punches, with the opponent landing the heavier shots.

Gonzalez controlled the ring start to finish, and was landing heavy, heavy blows throughout the fight. Pascal got some good shots in, picking and choosing his spots, but in no way did he have some kind of brilliant defensive fight, nor did he out land his opponent. He just has an absurd ability to take abuse, which we have seen before. I can't believe some of the shots both guys took in that fight without going down.

Obviously the judges saw it differently from me, and I didn't agree it was the blowout lederman and Hopkins thought it was, but the decision didn't sit well with me (or the fans in the arena).
 
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Another top middleweight just signed to fight Golovkin so I dont know about guys ducking him. Kellerman was gushing about the upcoming fight. I think it's in October.
 
Gonzalez had to know that he needed to knock Pascal down at least once to win a Judge's decision ....even outside of Montreal. Gonzalez fights with a style somewhere between Lurch and Frankenstein. Hard to believe he had over 300 amateur fights but in Cuba he might have fought the same guy 30 times. He shouldn't have cried...he got another shot off this fight...now he looks like Puss.
*Neither Gonzalez nor Pascal made weight...what a shock today.
Kovalev looks a bit taken aback by being swarmed early. I guess he figured nobody had the brass to try that. He straightened out and busted the guy up pretty quickly. The way Mohammedi reacted to the KO I was expecting to read that his orbital-or-whatever bone around his eye was fractured. The rule to weigh in the day before is creating terrible mismatches in the size of fighters today. Mohammedi is no tomato can but he was like a destroyer fighting a battleship. Kovalev had a payday coming but Jesus.
I'd like to see Kovalev fight a guy like Bob Foster who had great reach and a killer jab. Throw out his last 2 fights which were losses and Foster only had one loss to a LHW (to a Peruvian in Lima in his 2nd year as a pro). 5 losses to Heavyweights...Frazier, Ali, Doug Jones, Zora Folley and Ernie Terrell. He knocked out Dick Tiger....yet he's never even mentioned in the list of the greats. Props to you BF.
 
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