Article: Penny Wise, Schiano Foolish
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....and Hobbs didn't understand or didn't care how this whole thing worked unlike the rest of us
It's a good article, and he is nowhere hear as harsh on Hobbs as he could have been.
I thought when he wrote the "keep that $8 million in mind" at one point, he was going to later go for the kill and point out that if Hobbs doesn't hire Schiano, his football moves since his hire would be costing Rutgers $8 million in lost ticket revenue EVERY YEAR.
I thought when he wrote the "keep that $8 million in mind" at one point, he was going to later go for the kill and point out that if Hobbs doesn't hire Schiano, his football moves since his hire would be costing Rutgers $8 million in lost ticket revenue EVERY YEAR.
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Great article. Amazing how many people get it and the dunces running Rutgers don't. Barchi, Hobbs, the BOG are all pikers. Charter members of the Dunning-Kruger club.
First rule of the Dunning-Kruger club is you don't know you're in the Dunning-Kruger club.
First rule of the Dunning-Kruger club is you don't know you're in the Dunning-Kruger club.
How awkward is it gonna be for Pike with his big mouth, when Schiano shows up on campus.
Dope should have kept his trap shut.
Dope should have kept his trap shut.
He should be able to speak his mind that is what everyone here is doing. The problem I have with all this if we bring in GS now, who will have more power him or the AD. When th coach has more power than the AD, you are asking for problems.
Not when the AD is a dope , especially with football , let the adult in the room run things . Very simple.
Well I am glad he atleast acknowledged that he has had a long term relationship with Schiano. While the article may have been accurate do you think it was balanced and realistic with its comparisons? Are OSU and Michigan realistic comparisons for us right now? Does he mention the financial differences in annual revenue, donor contributions and the lack of a full share as to why RU may only be able to pay a salary that will be in the bottom 3rd of league? He makes a big deal about the $8MM but conveniently leaves out the other larger facility requirements, which again maybe needed, but that RU just does not have the fiscal means to make a binding commitment to in a coach's contract.
I am so sick and tired of this drama and black/white, pro or con nature of this discussion when there are clearly shades of gray that just get glossed over regarding Schiano's resume, Hobbs gaffes and what Rutgers should and can do. Just get it over with.
I am so sick and tired of this drama and black/white, pro or con nature of this discussion when there are clearly shades of gray that just get glossed over regarding Schiano's resume, Hobbs gaffes and what Rutgers should and can do. Just get it over with.
He shouldn't be commenting on an ongoing negotiation and taking sides and subtle digs at potential football coaches. He could have said he supports Hobbs and left it that. Pike needs to finish above .500 and worry about that.
The football coach has more power than the AD at a large number of schools. Does it mean that there are no controls in place? Not necessarily. Penn St. was a strange situation to say the least. Paterno had more power than the governor, it seems.
I've mentioned this a few times on the board and no one ever really addresses the financial health of the AD and what it might be...I've always thought any sort of mandatory facility construction in a certain time frame was a bigger stumbling block than salary etc...
We are likely still servicing the debt of the stadium expansion (don't know how much is left), the athletic department has a loan from the school that still has to be paid back and the subsidy still exists....in that environment how do you okay 100M+ in infrastructure improvements if it isn't largely privately funded. I don't think they'd want to add any appreciable debt to the department in that environment....to have another 100M+ plus raised for one sport so soon on the back of an unprecedented raise of 75M for multiple sports seems like a tall order. Not that it wouldn't be great to have the facilities and infrastructure but you also have to take into account the financial health of the AD and I've said many times the B10 payout isn't a bottomless pot of gold.
You know, I like Pike... a lot, but he should have avoided this situation like the plague. He should have acknowledged his appreciation for the opportunity he has here (as he often does) and added something like:
But, my focus right now is on making my team grow as players and young men, and getting RUMBB to the postseason.
No need for him to insert himself in this mess. I'm just glad his vocal support for Hobbs hasn't become a story in and of itself.
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1000x this, but how could this much incompetence exist for decades, through so many changes in leadership? Politics? Cronyism?
I’m not saying it isn’t a major investment and that Rutgers isn’t going through some serious growing pains.
We are in the Big Ten. Now is the time to let it rip. The BIG provides a very lucrative payout to ensure Member Institutions put more into their respective programs.
It’s now or never. Huge paydays are on the horizon.
Rutgers major downfall is having a president who
appears to be ignorant or apathetic to the situation.
The difference between ignorance and apathy?
I don’t know and I don’t care! Maybe he is distracted with everything else going on.
Hobbs is just an errand boy of Barchi’s.
Schiano’s plan provides hope that Rutgers can navigate through these times and produce a program the whole Rutgers community can be proud of.A program that will eventually be self
sustaining.
If the administration can’t make this leap of faith they really don’t now or never will belong in the Big Ten Conference.
That says a lot with all the great things happening
academically and with research since joining.
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And fans being complacent with whomever the RU admin shoves down our throat.
Exactly . Took something like this to bring everyone together for the better of RU.
I stopped reading in the beginning when he noted some of the best stadiums..... Penn State, OSU, Michigan.
Irrational and irrelevant and wasteful. That’s not our lane. What does he think about Indiana’s ? Michigan State’s ? At least he admitted his bias up front, being a friend.
If not bottom third, where should our salary be ? Why top half if we can’t afford it? And does anyone expect Schiano to get us to the Rose Bowl ever? When costs exceed results, you’re wasting money.
Irrational and irrelevant and wasteful. That’s not our lane. What does he think about Indiana’s ? Michigan State’s ? At least he admitted his bias up front, being a friend.
If not bottom third, where should our salary be ? Why top half if we can’t afford it? And does anyone expect Schiano to get us to the Rose Bowl ever? When costs exceed results, you’re wasting money.
Wish I could like this 1000 times - awesome article by Robbins, clearly laying out the case for Rutgers to finally start investing in football (and Schiano).
We have very good State University that is underfunded relative to the wealth of our state, as NJ is the 2nd wealthiest state in the US - it's time to start funding Rutgers like it deserves to be so we can move from the underappreciated jewel it is to one of the top State Universities in the US, including its athletic programs. It's time.
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About a perfect an article that I have ever read on this subject.
He tried to hire Bannon back, but then reneged when Bannon asked for bail money.
Wow, you really should have read the whole article. It explains the situation in a nutshell.The BIG schools are our pier institutions. Schiano’s salary would be around 10th lowest in a fourteen team conference.
Our facilities are by far the worst in the conference. I don’t expect changes over night but to give the same lip service that they have been giving for the last 40 years just isn’t going to cut it.
Rutgers is in the best conference in the country athletically and academically.Let’s not neglect
the former.
