Ash to Coach tOSU Bowl Game

[RUInsanity]

Yeah, but it sure seems like everyone! I guess it might be a good time to put the ignore feature to work...

Good rule of thumb from another poster. If a brand new ID appears and is immediately stirring a lot of sh1t it might be a good ignore candidate.

There are many valid points on both sides of this issue to take into account.......but someone pushing a panic agenda is fairly easy to filter out.

 

[suggakane]

Unless he's beetlejuice and can be in two places at once he is going to have to divy up his time between doing those things and coaching OSU for the next month and I dunno about you but I would prefer to not have to compete over my own head coaches time with a division rival who doesn't need him as much.

smart people know how to figure these things out. I think he might be smart.

 

[sodakboy93]

The idea that this is even an issue is comical. Chris Ash is fulfilling his commitments to his current employer and to the kids he coached at Ohio State. He's doing the right thing, and that's uh, bad?

I'm guessing that most of the people who demand Ash start right away are the same type of people that wouldn't give two weeks notice if they left their job. They certainly wouldn't transition their work to someone else, or act in a professional manner. They'd just flip their boss off, say "see ya", and walk out the door.

 

[suggakane]

An over reaction? Probably. Driven i think by the somewhat luke warm reaction to his hiring. Most here, myself included, were hoping for a bigger splash and not a co defensive coordinator hire. We already think hes not the best we could do. Starting off this way is not making us feel any better about things and does make you question his commitment , excitement, and decision making.

If he's reading this, he's probably thinking the same thing about you, we , or whoever you are.

 

[RU31trap]

I disagree wholeheartedley with those who think this is ok, it's not and wouldn't be tolerated by bigger programs. Personally speaking I think Georgia is making a big mistake. There is so much work to do with the staff and recruits I cannot believe we're allowing this to happen. You see Ash is not going to burn bridges with OSU or U. Meyer for a head coaching job at Rutgers, same applies to Smart which is why Georgia will forever be Alabama's doormat. Very very disappointed. A f$&King co-defensive coordinator dictating policy to a
(Learn as you go) AD.

 

[SkilletHead2]

No i think i was right on. He will still have time before the dead period to meet with our guys on the up coming recruiting weekend, and he will be able to utilize the time the OSU coaches recruit to recruit for us. I would much rather have him here right away. But the man is honoring a contract that he signed way before he even thought about coaching us. Let him do him and we get him with a month before signing day. A lot of recruits that wrote us off have us back on top of their lists because of ash. It will be fine.

383, we agree that it will be fine.

But you said: I don't understand, he is recruiting the same guys he was recruiting to go to OSU now to come to rutgers. He will have a staff in place by the time the dead period comes around. also he most likely keep some of our current guys on staff. I honestly don't understand what the hell the big deal is.
Almost none of that is correct. He was recruiting OSU players before, now he is recruiting RU players. Only a very small overlap there. He will not have a staff in place by the time the dead period starts. It starts in about a week. I'll be happy if he has hired one person by then. He will keep some of our guys on staff, but he might well have not made up his mind on who until he knows who he can hire. All that takes time, and it's time he will be dividing.

BUT, nobody on earth knows that better than Chris Ash, and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he will come through this intensely busy month and bring us out the other side successfully. I just think it's going to be real hard to do so.

 

[sct1111]

Understand your point but with our fans & media attention and NJ coaches, this will be a major issue that will never be forgotten at least till he wins here.

The condescension in that post is hilarious. Neither that poster nor Ash seems to be aware of the NJ culture and our media. It's a different beast than practically anywhere in the country.

He is supposed to sign on to be our head coach on Monday. As Rutgers fans it's not unreasonable to expect him to be devoted to RU and only RU. We shouldn't have to kiss Meyer's ring and neither should he. We're in the same division for God sake. Meyer will be a competitor starting Monday. Meyer should not expect him to stay with his staff for a meaningless bowl game.

 

[sodakboy93]

The condescension in that post is hilarious. Neither that poster nor Ash seems to be aware of the NJ culture and our media. It's a different beast than practically anywhere in the country.

He is supposed to sign on to be our head coach on Monday. As Rutgers fans it's not unreasonable to expect him to be devoted to RU and only RU. We shouldn't have to kiss Meyer's ring and neither should he. We're in the same division for God sake. Meyer will be a competitor starting Monday. Meyer should not expect him to stay with his staff for a meaningless bowl game.

So he should burn his bridges with his current employer? Smart.

Seriously, does anyone here understand how the real world works?

 

[PaKnight]

Still struggling to come up with all the examples of coaching in non-championship games? So far we have one - Charlie Strong

Narduzzi

 

[Jersey383]

I disagree wholeheartedley with those who think this is ok, it's not and wouldn't be tolerated by bigger programs. Personally speaking I think Georgia is making a big mistake. There is so much work to do with the staff and recruits I cannot believe we're allowing this to happen. You see Ash is not going to burn bridges with OSU or U. Meyer for a head coaching job at Rutgers, same applies to Smart which is why Georgia will forever be Alabama's doormat. Very very disappointed. A f$&King co-defensive coordinator dictating policy to a
(Learn as you go) AD.

Cool you feel better now?

 

[suggakane]

I disagree wholeheartedley with those who think this is ok, it's not and wouldn't be tolerated by bigger programs. Personally speaking I think Georgia is making a big mistake. There is so much work to do with the staff and recruits I cannot believe we're allowing this to happen. You see Ash is not going to burn bridges with OSU or U. Meyer for a head coaching job at Rutgers, same applies to Smart which is why Georgia will forever be Alabama's doormat. Very very disappointed. A f$&King co-defensive coordinator dictating policy to a
(Learn as you go) AD.

is what it is

 

[Jersey383]

I mean it could be worse.... we could have al golden as our coach....

 

[RutgersRaRa]

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

If the sky fell, how would we know it? Serious replies only. TIA.

 

[RU31trap]

I mean it could be worse.... we could have al golden as our coach....

Not so sure about your post. Al Golden has valuable Head coaching experience and would be here right now. I truly believe he would be doing the right thing. This move by Ash and the AD is giving a very bad first impression.

 

[sodakboy93]

I've said this in a couple of threads, but I'm going to make my own thread because I'm riled up about it.

I do not give a damn what some people (who I'm convinced have no clue about how the world works) thinks Chris Ash should do. Chris Ash wants to honor his commitments to Ohio State and the kids he coaches there. That's the right thing to do, both personally and professionally.

Yet there's a bunch of people on this board who think that's ridiculous, that the athletic director is being taken for a ride, and all sort of utter and complete nonsense.

So let me ask this - and be honest...do the people who think that Chris Ash should just quit Ohio State immediately also think it's ok to just quit their job without notice? You know, "screw my employer I got a better offer and they want me to start as soon as possible, so I'm just leaving tomorrow".

Sure, some people will do that. Some *coaches* will do that. But does that make it right, or better, or does it just reek of unprofessionalism? It does to me.

I rarely like to make value judgments on people on a message board, because often times it's unfair, but if you really want to bash Chris Ash for staying with Ohio State through their bowl game then you're the one with the problem. And I sure as heck wouldn't want you to work for me.

 

[Jersey383]

Not so sure about your post. Al Golden has valuable Head coaching experience and would be here right now. I truly believe he would be doing the right thing. This move by Ash and the AD is giving a very bad first impression.

Yeah no shit he would be here he got his ass fired at Miami. He wouldn't have any other option except to be here....

 

[RUforester72]

Amen brother!

 

[KeithK7624]

Hey , most of us know plum street is smarter than most people on this board . But plum shouldn't be smarter than Hobbs.
Hobbs should have said : 'Chris you're my guy . If you want this job , you start full time tomorrow ' .
It's not rocket science folks .

It's really not that big of a deal

 

[LC-88]

Yeah no shit he would be here he got his ass fired at Miami. He wouldn't have any other option except to be here....

Actually no. He could take a couple of weeks off to decompress before starting his gig here.

 

[Jersey383]

Not so sure about your post. Al Golden has valuable Head coaching experience and would be here right now. I truly believe he would be doing the right thing. This move by Ash and the AD is giving a very bad first impression.

How about we wait and see what they have to say tomorrow... Yah know here the plan about how this is going to workout.... Just a suggestion since our fan base is notorious for over reacting.

 

[Jersey383]

Actually no. He could take a couple of weeks off to decompress before starting his gig here.

So whats the difference then??

 

[ArminRU]

Not so sure about your post. Al Golden has valuable Head coaching experience and would be here right now. I truly believe he would be doing the right thing. This move by Ash and the AD is giving a very bad first impression.

Seek help.

 

[suggakane]

I've said this in a couple of threads, but I'm going to make my own thread because I'm riled up about it.

I do not give a damn what some people (who I'm convinced have no clue about how the world works) thinks Chris Ash should do. Chris Ash wants to honor his commitments to Ohio State and the kids he coaches there. That's the right thing to do, both personally and professionally.

Yet there's a bunch of people on this board who think that's ridiculous, that the athletic director is being taken for a ride, and all sort of utter and complete nonsense.

So let me ask this - and be honest...do the people who think that Chris Ash should just quit Ohio State immediately also think it's ok to just quit their job without notice? You know, "screw my employer I got a better offer and they want me to start as soon as possible, so I'm just leaving tomorrow".

Sure, some people will do that. Some *coaches* will do that. But does that make it right, or better, or does it just reek of unprofessionalism? It does to me.

I rarely like to make value judgments on people on a message board, because often times it's unfair, but if you really want to bash Chris Ash for staying with Ohio State through their bowl game then you're the one with the problem. And I sure as heck wouldn't want you to work for me.

I agree with you . There are a lot of messed up people on this board, not all, but alot.

 

[sct1111]

So he should burn his bridges with his current employer? Smart.

Seriously, does anyone here understand how the real world works?

Do you? In the world of college football that's hardly burning bridges. It's usually a mutual understanding between coaches. Meyer left Bowling Green before their bowl game before he became the head coach at Utah. It happens pretty much all of the time. In fact most of the other head coach hires this year have done that exact thing. DJ Durkin is not coaching in Michigan's bowl game. Dino Barbers is not coaching in Bowling Green's bowl game. So why is Ash?

I have no doubt it's because he is a loyal guy. But his loyalty from Monday on should be with Rutgers and Rutgers only. It's just not a good look on his part.

 

[PaKnight]

Not so sure about your post. Al Golden has valuable Head coaching experience and would be here right now. I truly believe he would be doing the right thing. This move by Ash and the AD is giving a very bad first impression.

What would Golden other option since he was fired from his last job?

 

[RU31trap]

Yeah no shit he would be here he got his ass fired at Miami. He wouldn't have any other option except to be here....

True and RUTGERS should be Ash's primary responsibility, not Meyer or OSU. If he tanks early next season rest assured the SL and fans will immediately reflect back to this decision. Trust me not a good start. Enough said

 

[PaKnight]

I'm convinced a large portion of our fanbase is inbred.

I'm starting to hear banjo music when I enter the site.

 

[Caliknight]

It's going to be mentioned whether or not he's actually coaching in the game.

Doubtful it would be mentioned as much, especially if the D is kicking Ash.

 

[LC-88]

how the world works? employers never lay people off with no notice? Come on. Sorry Christmas is in two weeks, but your job has been filled by a foreigner on a work visa. Oh, and you have to train him for two weeks before we kick your a$$ to the curb.

I agree with you. You should do the right thing. The question here is what's the right thing. Seems we have different opinions of what that is. When Chris Ash gets hired by Ohio State in five years, I hope he stays to coach Rutgers in the Rose Bowl.

 

[Jersey383]

True and RUTGERS should be Ash's primary responsibility, not Meyer or OSU. If he tanks early next season rest assured the SL and fans will immediately reflect back to this decision. Trust me not a good start. Enough said

Who the eff cares what the hell the SL says!!! that paper and site have been a cancer for our program for years. Ash is the best possible hire we could have gotten (mullen wasn't available) Half of our fans are stupid as a bag of dog shit anyways so who the hell cares. If we get off to a bad start next year its not going to be because Ash coached the damn bowl game for OSU no matter how much the dickbags at the SL want to make it the reason.

 

[RU76]

Everyone killed Shea for not starting work immediately. That was Shea's choice. This time it's Ash's choice. I am disappointed that Ash will not start immediately. I believe that 100% of RU fans, OP included, would prefer in the best of all worlds that he start immediately. I agree that there are a "lot of messed up people" on the board. This is proved every day. However, that fact does not preclude those of us who disagree with his choice from expressing an opinion.

By the way, often when a high level employee announces he is moving on the employee is shown the door. There is no set way that is "normal" in situations like this. Ohio State evidently prefers he stays through the bowl game. We should prefer he joins us ASAP. Guess who will be disappointed here. When Urban Meyer resigns and Ash is offered that job, do you think he will stay here coaching RU in a bowl game?

 

[sct1111]

Equating being a college head football coach with an ordinary desk job is a pretty poor analogy.

 

[RUMBA-JK]

You are spot on - and add to this the fact that this is an in-conference move - a move that will happen pretty seamlessly and everybody will work through in a professional & respectful & collaborative manner. OSU & the entire B1G wants to put forth their best performance in all of the bowls

Some RU fans might think that the already getting hyped - New Year's Day OSU vs ND Fiesta Bowl is 'meaningless' - - but, while not a play off - it will be a very high profile game - and - - Urban Meyer, Chris Ash, and the entire B1G wants a solid victory!

 

[Jersey383]

I've said this in a couple of threads, but I'm going to make my own thread because I'm riled up about it.

I do not give a damn what some people (who I'm convinced have no clue about how the world works) thinks Chris Ash should do. Chris Ash wants to honor his commitments to Ohio State and the kids he coaches there. That's the right thing to do, both personally and professionally.

Yet there's a bunch of people on this board who think that's ridiculous, that the athletic director is being taken for a ride, and all sort of utter and complete nonsense.

So let me ask this - and be honest...do the people who think that Chris Ash should just quit Ohio State immediately also think it's ok to just quit their job without notice? You know, "screw my employer I got a better offer and they want me to start as soon as possible, so I'm just leaving tomorrow".

Sure, some people will do that. Some *coaches* will do that. But does that make it right, or better, or does it just reek of unprofessionalism? It does to me.

I rarely like to make value judgments on people on a message board, because often times it's unfair, but if you really want to bash Chris Ash for staying with Ohio State through their bowl game then you're the one with the problem. And I sure as heck wouldn't want you to work for me.

Amen to that!

 

[sodakboy93]

Equating being a college head football coach with an ordinary desk job is a pretty poor analogy.

So I guess when you move up the corporate ranks, the rules are different? Newsflash - they aren't.

I moved in a senior position from one competitor to another in the same industry. I gave ample notice to my current employer, transitioned my work and left on good terms. Probably 90% of the time that's what happens. I know it happens at the C-level, because my manager gave a month's notice before moving to a new job as well.

Now does that happen all the time? No. I know situations where people are shown the door when they announce they're leaving, but are often specific reasons for that. I also know people who leave without notice from their positions and get away with it, but if you're in a close-knit community like college football it's probably something you don't want to be in the habit of doing.

Again, if someone has problems with Chris Ash as a hire because he lacks head coaching experience or he doesn't have the resume you're looking for, that's one thing. Reasonable people can differ on whether it's a good hire or not. (I tend to think it is.) But making a big deal out of him wanting to do the right thing as he leaves his current job is ridiculous.

 

[Bamm Bamm Rubble]

It's always something stupid with our hires....

 

[drewbagel423]

On ESPN Mac Brown said that when coaches take jobs at other schools before the season is over they should leave immediately, even if they were on his staff.

You want to talk about commitment? How about the commitment to his new job?

 

[Jersey383]

It's always something stupid with our hires....

It's really not that stupid lol its just our asshat fans make something out of nothing!

 

[cohwx]

It's always something stupid with our fanbase....

(I think that's what you meant to say)

 

[lighty]

When Urban Meyer resigns and Ash is offered that job, do you think he will stay here coaching RU in a bowl game?

LOL. We have half of the people in the board complaining Ash wasn't a good hire and now he's Urban Meyer's replacement.

I guess people are coming around to him.