He has until the 14th to do all that... then he goes back to osu for the bowl.
Ash to Coach tOSU Bowl Game
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Dead period simply means to face-to-face meetings. Doesn't mean you can't recruit via telephone, text, etc.
Jesus christ you would think it actually was. The man has from tomorrow until the 14th to get a staff together meet the team and recruit.
Yup and its a good thing he has a cellphone isn't it so he can do all of that
I'm convinced there are a group of fans that are actually insane....I mean like Bipolar insane. They are not happy unless they are miserable or trying to make others feel miserable by concocting something negative from every situation or every event or every story.
Not if he's in the middle of an OSU practice or game planning for Notre Dame he can't . Just a bad first impression/decision
The bowls are played during (a put this in caps so you can see it better seen) A GOD DAMMED DEAD PERIOD.
YOU CANNOT RECRUIT DURING A DEAD PERIOD.
I never used to believe it, but I think people around here really do look for the negative in every situation. Every silver lining must have a cloud! Go find it!
I don't understand, he is recruiting the same guys he was recruiting to go to OSU now to come to rutgers. He will have a staff in place by the time the dead period comes around. also he most likely keep some of our current guys on staff. I honestly don't understand what the hell the big deal is.
I know people here have been saying this kind of thing for a long time (self-loathing, etc), but I never really believed it. I do now.
Typical of the loser mentality many RU fans have...the sky is always falling and everything is a negative. It's almost like they suffer from Stockholm Syndrome! That or the extreme opposite...RU should be competing for B1G and national championships.
It's honestly sad... We have one of the best young football minds in all of college football coming to be our head coach. The man will be here until the 14th he's going to meet with the players recruit and build a staff from now until the 14th. Then he's going to osu to prep for the bowl. He will still be able to have phone contact with recruits and people are literally ready to fire the guy... Our fan base is pathetic.
I said it in another thread.
What happens if ND puts up 45 points on Ash's defense? How does the media portray that? Politi and NJ media is already questioning the decision. What do you think the headlines are if this happens?
On the other hand, if OSU shuts them out it's a solid promotion for our new head coach. I just think the risk outweighs the benefits here and it's better if he's devoted to RU from Monday on.
What happens if ND puts up 45 points on Ash's defense? How does the media portray that? Politi and NJ media is already questioning the decision. What do you think the headlines are if this happens?
On the other hand, if OSU shuts them out it's a solid promotion for our new head coach. I just think the risk outweighs the benefits here and it's better if he's devoted to RU from Monday on.
Unless he's beetlejuice and can be in two places at once he is going to have to divy up his time between doing those things and coaching OSU for the next month and I dunno about you but I would prefer to not have to compete over my own head coaches time with a division rival who doesn't need him as much.
An over reaction? Probably. Driven i think by the somewhat luke warm reaction to his hiring. Most here, myself included, were hoping for a bigger splash and not a co defensive coordinator hire. We already think hes not the best we could do. Starting off this way is not making us feel any better about things and does make you question his commitment , excitement, and decision making.
This mistake reeks of inexperience. We have a program in disarray and our new AD negotiated terms and conditions that allow our new HC help a conference rival prepare for a bowl game? WTF is going on here? He should have been here ASAP reaching out to recruits and getting to know current players. Doesn't Ash give a S::t about the team he's going to lead next year? Maybe I'm overreacting but this is starting to Look like amateur hour.
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You're right that's just my opinion and I'm just 1 fan but if we have more fans that feel this way and even a couple of recruits or ecen 1 or 2 players that feel like me then coach ASH has already made a crucial error before he even started for something that would not benefit him or OSU all that greatly
I think you're confused on a number of points. The dead period comes around in a week. I doubt he'll have anybody in place by then. If he does, super! No, he is not recruiting the same guys he was recruiting to OSU. He is, to begin with, recruiting the guys we currently have committed to stay here. You can bet every one of them is hearing from somebody. And the dead period does not mean no contact with players. It means no face-to-face contact. He can still be in touch.
You see time and again that the key thing in recruiting is contact. Constant contact. We are in a situation where we have a coaching staff that is all wondering if they have a job here next year. You can bet that they are spending a fair amount of time looking at options, and when they do contact a recruit, it is with, "Well, no, I don't know if I'm going to be here next year or not." The one guy we know is going to be here nest year, isn't going to be here next month.
People comparing this to Herman and Smart are ignoring important differences. Georgia has pulled in a top ten recruiting class since Adam was a pup. And all those kids know who Kirby Smart is. Herman was competing for the national championship.
Listen, it isn't a disaster, and it isn't a black mark on Ash as he is living up to his commitments. It's illegal motion, not roughing the kicker. We'll get past it, but to think it doesn't make life harder is dumb.
It's not everyone. It's a small group and a new poster or more (or at least a new screen name) who are doing their best to rIle up the board.....and in some cases this tactic is working. There are people in life who just want everyone to feel as miserable as they do.
The bigger picture here is that people wanted Flood gone and now he is gone. I can wait and not emotionally micromanage every single move his replacement makes in order to pre judge how he may fail. It's about the bigger picture for me.
Oh ok so he can't work the phones or travel? Once he's in Ohio he can't even think about RU? I didn't know you know OSU's practice schedule and what he's worked out with Urban.
Maybe it's not that black and white dude...
The media in general has the ability to sway public opinion not to mention it's not too hard to form an opinion on your own if your future head coach gets blown out. It's just an unnecessary risk on his part. I don't think it reflects great on him.
I'm not ready to bring out the pitchforks, I think he's a great hire. I'm just disappointed along with a lot of other RU fans who thought he would be devoted to RU from day one. It's not unreasonable. I'm not ready to completely pass judgement. Let's should see what he says tomorrow.
Wish I could facepalm this. No one is saying he can't still do that stuff what we are saying is he won't be doing it as effectively. That's common sense dude. If I give you just 1 task to do you will do it a lot better than if I give you 9 other tasks to be done in the same time period.
No i think i was right on. He will still have time before the dead period to meet with our guys on the up coming recruiting weekend, and he will be able to utilize the time the OSU coaches recruit to recruit for us. I would much rather have him here right away. But the man is honoring a contract that he signed way before he even thought about coaching us. Let him do him and we get him with a month before signing day. A lot of recruits that wrote us off have us back on top of their lists because of ash. It will be fine.
Yeah, but it sure seems like everyone! I guess it might be a good time to put the ignore feature to work...
