He has Cornell as the AQ based on current standings
BACATOLOGY 2/26: NCAA TOURNAMENT ANALYSIS
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Do the CBS execs get a quiet say? For example if SHU is hovering around a 10 seed, would anyone really be surprised if Holloway's team got bumped to a 9 in Purdue's region? There's always a few potential storyline games lined up for the first couple rounds... do they really happen completely organically without getting a little extra push?
Going out on a limb there assuming that Purdue gets past a 16 seed this year.
Why do you say that "that's what the matrix measures", when you've got plenty of people last year that missed on two teams ranked ahead of someone that got every team right?
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I'd say not at all...they are building a bracket, and the storylines happen naturally.
AP ranking means nothing...heck, Gonzaga is somehow now in the top 25 and could be in the NIT if the season ended today.
That's the thing. As of yesterday he had nothing to say about Seton Hall or Providence, because they weren't even in his "first four out" or "next four out". They weren't even mentioned. That's how out of the loop he is, they weren't even on the radar. Meanwhile BracketMatrix has SHU in 96 of 107 brackets, and Providence 101 of 107. CBS was one of the few that did not have them, but Palm doesn't even include them on the bubble. Honestly, how can you not think he's trying to get attention/trolling at this point?
Palm has had Seton Hall in his 1st 4 out for a while. It's incorrect to state that they aren't on his radar, or that he doesn't include them on the bubble.
this is my third year on the matrix....first year I was oblivious to how they scored...didnt do well...too many of my own biases...last year finshed 62-65th somewhere around there which was top 33%;
I dont think he is lazy in as much as selection committee is evolving
Thank you
well I am not predicting Cornell will win but they are tied right now and my tiebreak says they are both 2-1 vs Yale so i go head to head between Princeton and cornell and cornell beat them with a game upcomng.
I still think James Madison with a win over Michigan State might have an edge
agree with this.....getting it right definitely should count for more than seedings
I can't see either of those things happening.
Two weeks to go-----there's a bunch of teams that can play their way out of the Tournament.
If you don’t think that CBS doesn’t have a “quiet” say?? Millions of dollars invested….
My apologies. When I go on my phone and pull up his bracket, for some reason " Last four in" and "first four out" are not showing up. Only his "on the bubble" teams show up.
I just tried pulling it up on my computer, and next to the top seeds on the right side, I can see SHU and Providence are both " first four out". They did not show up on my phone, I honestly don't know why, but regardless I apologize for the mixup.
In your defense, the CBS website kind of sucks, and you only see a group of teams under the "Bubble" section, and need to expand it. It's mostly alphabetical, and Providence/Seton Hall both show up after you expand it.
No, I don't. Contracts are already signed, ads are already sold, etc. I believe the committee does their job without influence from CBS.
Well I'd love to get either of those wins, but I'd rather have a 10 seed than a 9 lol. Even better would be an 11 if it could somehow come without a trip to Dayton.
shu losing the next 2 lands them back in that last 4 in grouping.....what happens after that is unknown
and remember should fau and dayton end up winning their conference tourneys, likely two more bids opening up in the field...but Richmond may make a case
and remember should fau and dayton end up winning their conference tourneys, likely two more bids opening up in the field...but Richmond may make a case
Does that more depend on what teams behind them do? Or does losing 2 quad 1A games on the road actually damage their profile by itself?
I gotta bridge to sell you…. We just learned last year they really don’t consider conference tournaments. They don’t even wait for B1G tourney to end to pick and seed. Almost billion reasons to believe CBS has some import.
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I just think losing 2 more games puts that loss total at 11 drops them to 5-7 in Quad1 and puts them under 500 in Q1/2/3 at 10-11
As it is now, its a judgment call whether they are in the first four at the moment or no. I went with them above Wake but Wake has an easier schedule, if they stack wins they will move ahead
As it is now, its a judgment call whether they are in the first four at the moment or no. I went with them above Wake but Wake has an easier schedule, if they stack wins they will move ahead
Were you under the impression that they were waiting for the B1G tourney to end and then spending 20 minutes doing the bracket? They spend 5 days building it, so I thought that part was obvious.
It's not that they "don't consider" conference tournaments...it's that the last few committees haven't put as much weight into their results as some in the past...and some of that likely goes back to the fact that they're well on their way with the bracket on Thursday/Friday, and are more building out contingencies when needed than going back and totally redoing everything when an unexpected result occurs.
If TV drove the bracket, then we wouldn't end up with teams like Air Force, New Mexico, Nevada, etc being some of the most controversial selections (while many power 5 teams are unexpectedly sent to the NIT throughout the years).
For anyone that's interested, here is a rather long read that actually spells out the mechanics of the selection process...most are really surprised when they see how it's done, or how much goes into it...
www.ncaa.com
It's not just a "hey, lets move those two teams around so they can play each other and get better TV ratings"...the whole thing is very complex (and it takes a LOT of time to actually tweak things and you pull teams out of the bracket and vote again on everything).
How the field of 68 DI men’s teams is picked for March Madness
The NCAA’s guide to how the 68 teams are chosen, seeded and bracketed for the Division I men's basketball tournament every season.
www.ncaa.com
It's not just a "hey, lets move those two teams around so they can play each other and get better TV ratings"...the whole thing is very complex (and it takes a LOT of time to actually tweak things and you pull teams out of the bracket and vote again on everything).
A must follow here. They will do live in depth mock bracketology this weekend on youtube..been watching a few years now
No doubt. Very complex. Most of work actually done already. Interpret that as you wish. Concerns for geography. Always wanting more west coast teams in…For anyone that's interested, here is a rather long read that actually spells out the mechanics of the selection process...most are really surprised when they see how it's done, or how much goes into it...
How the field of 68 DI men’s teams is picked for March Madness
The NCAA’s guide to how the 68 teams are chosen, seeded and bracketed for the Division I men's basketball tournament every season.
It's not just a "hey, lets move those two teams around so they can play each other and get better TV ratings"...the whole thing is very complex (and it takes a LOT of time to actually tweak things and you pull teams out of the bracket and vote again on everything).
Virginia Tech is officially out as a contender after losing to Syracuse. The Orange continue to hang around.
Mississippi State in dogfight with Kentucky....Bulldogs led most of the game but now trail, if they can win they are basically an at large lock
Pitt failed to get a road win at Clemson so they will remain well on the fringes of the bubble with little hope
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