Agree with them allNo defense
No rebounding
So passing
No hustle
No 50-50 balls
They are not playing to win.
Typical ACC tourney result
Agree with them allNo defense
No rebounding
So passing
No hustle
No 50-50 balls
They are not playing to win.
Typical ACC tourney result
When the "science" bases anything on expected outcome vs. actual outcome it is a joke.Man I respect you but the only advantage the current approach has over literally just letting a computer algorithm select the teams is the current system is more entertaining.
Watching humans try to parse a big data set manually when we have tools to do that for us (i.e. data science or “science” as you put it) is laughable and basically just shows how much the world has passed the old guys by.
Alas, they are still in control.
For now.
Acc champ can’t play in Dayton .It’s impossible unless they get matched against a 16 seed, which would never happen.Va Tech will be an 11 seed at worse. No way the ACC champ has to play in Dayton.
If VaTech (and A&M) get the auto bid then don't they get to skip Dayton?Last four in has to be VTech + Rutgers + Texas A&M + 1 more (Wyoming?). VTech and A&M bumped SMU + Xavier.
Love your last sentence. Some of us youngsters need their ass whooped. You go pops! HahaWhen the "science" bases anything on expected outcome vs. actual outcome it is a joke.
Computers are only as good as the program and info put in. Being penalized when you win by six but were expected to win by 12 is ridiculous.
Oh. And "**** you" youngster.
Va tech can’t go to Dayton if they win tonightLast four in has to be VTech + Rutgers + Texas A&M + 1 more (Wyoming?). VTech and A&M bumped SMU + Xavier.
True, they'll swap with ND then who is 11 if they win tonight.Va tech can’t go to Dayton if they win tonight
Exactly my thoughts. Dukes time has come with coach K. In the next couple years I hope I never hear the words Duke every time I talk college basketball with someone.Looks like Duke better enjoy this NCAA tourney. May be a long time before they get back.
I believe they have the top class in the country coming in…not that it mattered for them this year. 4 5-stars and a 4-star.Looks like Duke better enjoy this NCAA tourney. May be a long time before they get back.
Dayton is our destiny. I believe itTrue, they'll swap with ND then who is 11 if they win tonight.
What was NC State's seed in 83?Interesting to figure out the Va Tech seed..maybe 10..9 seems high but...
I decided we're in anyway so I can pretend to enjoyIf we were not on the bubble I would really be enjoying this Duke game.
This game either was thrown or something is really off here.Dayton is our destiny. I believe it
Va tech looked awesome and running it upThis game either was thrown or something is really off here.
Any of the B1G quarterfinalists would have beaten this Duke team soundly. Soundly like by twice what they after losing by now.
No effort.
What was NC State's seed in 83?
They were a six seed out west. If VA Tech gets sent west I am picking them all the way.I don't know but Va Tech will have a net in 20s so there could be so justification fo a 9
Your second sentence is a great point, and I certainly would take the committee method over just using the current NET for example. If you were actually going to go that route you would need someone to design a transparent system that gives the right incentives.Cmon Fluox. You seem to be too good of a quants guy to post something like that.
Sure computers can analyze a huge data set more efficiently than humans ever could. But that analysis is only as good as the algorithms selected, and the algorithms are only as good as the assumptions built into them.
The "old guys" might have the experience and expertise to understand the limitations of the algorithms and assumptions.
It would be nice if the NCAA (and other ranking services like KenPom or Sagarin) published the calculations that they used. That would allow others to critique the algorithms, similar to a peer review in scientific journals, and help clarify the limitations of the rankings. Maybe we then get a better NET, or maybe we get the same NET while understanding the limitations.
I don't know how to unsplit these but yes I agree pretty much 100% with it.It seems the Selection Committee has already concluded that the NET has limitations at the fringes (or at least one fringe), because they didn't put Houston in their top 16 despite a top 5 NET.
That isn't evidence that the world has passed them by. It is evidence that they have the experience to recognize that the NET is limited by the algorithm and assumptions built into it.
I'm saying a computer algorithm could do a better job. The NET is absolutely not that algorithm, and neither are Bart, Kenpom, or other predictive models. Kenpom is good for what it's for which is predicting which teams will win games going forward, but it's not designed for selecting a tournament field.When the "science" bases anything on expected outcome vs. actual outcome it is a joke.
Computers are only as good as the program and info put in. Being penalized when you win by six but were expected to win by 12 is ridiculous.
:POh. And "**** you" youngster.
Duke was expected to win by 5 and they lost by 15, that's bad but not really that weird.This game either was thrown or something is really off here.
Any of the B1G quarterfinalists would have beaten this Duke team soundly. Soundly like by twice what they after losing by now.
No effort.
You must have missed Dukes team last year :-)Softest, most mentally and physically weak Duke team I can remember. Half the B1G would bully that Duke team into oblivion.
I thought they opted out 6 games into the season.You must have missed Dukes team last year :-)