Don't know if I agree. In a player's decision hierarchy:
1. Relationship with the coaches
2. Fit with the team and existing players
3. Facilities, weight room, stadium
4. Academics and majors (for some players this can be #1 or # 2)
5. Is the team a "hot" team like Michigan or tOSU or an up and comer
6. Fanbase - think that fans hold this in much higher regard than recruits.
7. Fanbase internet and social media presence-same as #6
Are you saying he has a better relationship with the RU coaches and players than Maryland's? And RU's facilities are better?I'm just saying it's sad when you got 50 RU fans wishing Bell well when there is like 1 UMD fan who even cares.
Also, if Bell followed your heirarchy he would be coming here.
Are you saying he has a better relationship with the RU coaches and players than Maryland's? And RU's facilities are better?
They won't even be close in the coming years, UM has been updating at a crazy pace due to UA money. RU is bottom half of conference for facilities, and that's okay because we don't have our B1G full share yetYes. Not sure if our facilities are better but they are close.
So then, why is Maryland ahead of RU? 2-10?Yes. Not sure if our facilities are better but they are close.
Reason one billion not to tweet recruits
"Some people" seems to be one idiot. Most of the responses are supportive of MB's decision. And how do we know he is not a troll trying to make RU look bad?Judging by the comments that followed this tweet, some people still don't get it. Not helping.
Are you completely dense or are you personally butt hurt with your post... Rick Mantz is pretty good with his connections throughout the state...Bell wasn't coming here ... he used the tease as many have done before in order to acquire the one he's always wanted....funny how OSU finds room and Maryland has 28 verbals not counting the final 2 or 3 in the chute...the way you really pull in this type of player being advised by not family but "strap hangers" is win period... This is Ash's truly 1st class in the cycle.I wasnt happy another top NJ kid leaves the state and to a school in our own conference and division. Questios should be more to staff..If there are not wins on field to use in recruiting then what next advantage ,angle are they using to help in recruiting besides playing time to NJ kids?
Point being,there needs to be a NJ tied coach onto staff.This was my concern when the staff was put together. NJ is a unique place to recruit and without a local tie (other then Mantz who is campus only) the staff is at a disadvantage. Relationships take years to build with local high school coaches so an addition like Bobby Acosta or someone his equal is really needed unless the staff wants to wait another recruiting cycle or two to build and establish the relationships statewide with every HS coach staff.. the mindset was to fence the garden,which was correct..but you need the relationships with HS to do that here without 'brand' recognition like OSU or Michigan with wins and tradition .
"Some people" seems to be one idiot. Most of the responses are supportive of MB's decision. And how do we know he is not a troll trying to make RU look bad?
Durkin is a hell of a recruiter. Named recruiter of the year if I remember correctly.
Folks are saying how great Ash is recruiting after a 2-9 year and it's true but I wonder how much of it is simply the aura of a new staff.
I wouldn't tweet a HS kid either way but you guys act as if you know the people tweeting him are "adults". It's far more likely they are college kids or other young people. I don't see anything wrong with a 18-20 year old tweeting a 17-18 year old. That's what people that age do. Of course, I could be wrong.
Also, when kids make a spectacle of themselves on social media they are inviting adulation and perhaps the adverse
I'm just saying it's sad when you got 50 RU fans wishing Bell well when there is like 1 UMD fan who even cares.
Pretty easy to see some one tweeting under "John Ryan Sirvan" is an adult. You google his name and it says he is a "50 year old male" from. Caldwell NJ. The other idiot "sblb bbl 07". Is a constant jerk on twitter wrecking the name of Rutgers with his stupidity.
Lastly, this kid did not make a spectical. A news source reported he was down to two choices.....he did nothing on social media.
You just answered your own question in the post you created..its his first cycle so the need for a NJ based coach on staff as an assistant is even greater the first 1-3 years. No need to name call,guess people feeling inferior have that problem?Are you completely dense or are you personally butt hurt with your post... Rick Mantz is pretty good with his connections throughout the state...Bell wasn't coming here ... he used the tease as many have done before in order to acquire the one he's always wanted....funny how OSU finds room and Maryland has 28 verbals not counting the final 2 or 3 in the chute...the way you really pull in this type of player being advised by not family but "strap hangers" is win period... This is Ash's truly 1st class in the cycle.
Where did I name call in the reply ?... DENSE " is an adjective... that is NOT name calling it states a fact of how your whine is old...also ...feelings of inferiority on my part ?... you can rest assured I have no inferiority complex...I just disagree with your belief we need a " coach from New Jersey on staff " who goes out on the road...that scenario has not played out a number of times here... you are aware of that....right ?... Rick Mantz is a great person on the staff though he doesn't recruit off campus...he has tremendous outreach and respect by the entire state of coaches...You just answered your own question in the post you created..its his first cycle so the need for a NJ based coach on staff as an assistant is even greater the first 1-3 years. No need to name call,guess people feeling inferior have that problem?
Forget Bell. He was never coming here. We have Fogg. And I doubt Maryland fans are harassing Fogg on Twitter.
You nailed it with the Bobby Acosta thing.I wasnt happy another top NJ kid leaves the state and to a school in our own conference and division. Questios should be more to staff..If there are not wins on field to use in recruiting then what next advantage ,angle are they using to help in recruiting besides playing time to NJ kids?
Point being,there needs to be a NJ tied coach onto staff.This was my concern when the staff was put together. NJ is a unique place to recruit and without a local tie (other then Mantz who is campus only) the staff is at a disadvantage. Relationships take years to build with local high school coaches so an addition like Bobby Acosta or someone his equal is really needed unless the staff wants to wait another recruiting cycle or two to build and establish the relationships statewide with every HS coach staff.. the mindset was to fence the garden,which was correct..but you need the relationships with HS to do that here without 'brand' recognition like OSU or Michigan with wins and tradition .
Didn't follow this but I'd say if a player enters the public domain willingly i.e. Public Twitter, Rivals/Star ranking in bio, etc then they welcome all interaction.
They are kids man. If a grown man is tweeting a 17 year old because he didn't come to his school, that guy is a loser. I don't think by having a twitter they consent to being harassed by grown ass men.
I think the NC as DC carried a ton of sway. Glad the 2-9 didn't totally tarnish that ring, but not sure how long that gleam will hold up to repeated losing seasons.Durkin is a hell of a recruiter. Named recruiter of the year if I remember correctly.
Folks are saying how great Ash is recruiting after a 2-9 year and it's true but I wonder how much of it is simply the aura of a new staff.
Expected? OK. But accepted? Nah, the dumass on twitter harassing HS students should face scrutiny.Nobody is arguing that. It's just the way it is though and should be expected.
why imagine? It happens all the time.I can only imagine an Ohio blue chipper going to Michigan and vice versa.
Expected? OK. But accepted? Nah, the dumass on twitter harassing HS students should face scrutiny.
Im not all that upset. I agree in a sense, there are weirdo's in the world, and seemingly even moreso on social media, so recruits should take all this with a grain of salt. And that goes for the praise they receive as well.Agree. Just please be as upset the next time another fan base harasses one of our recruits.
Acosta or someone with the same longtime NJ background to NJ Hs coaches ,and still trains top NJ kids,is needed by Ash oNto this staff for Jersey recruiting. Ash only needs to see what Durkin has done and how its paying off in Maryland /DC area,by hiring a known local to recruit that area for TERPS..https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ins-staff-at-maryland/?utm_term=.ca2b599f2c3eYou nailed it with the Bobby Acosta thing.
Yes,good guy,an ex longtime NJ high school coach,Rick Mantz,was head of HS coaches association. Problem is he has restrictions,not a full asst,cant leave campus to recruit.Am I mistaken or don't we have a VERY well respected NJ guy as our recruiting coordinator (or something similar)?
Do we have a shot with Hand?