Bob Bowlsby reportedly will advise the Big 12 board to expand on Tuesday’s meetings
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UCONN is in serious consideration here. Will they expand? I doubt it'll be northward! Cinci or Houston .
First school in should be UCF. HUGE school, Big TV market, entry into the fertile recruiting ground of Florida, destination city w Disney and Universal, instant best road trip for every existing Big12 School. Giant alum base.
-San Diego, ( Fresno State or San Jose) for 2 California schools.
- UCF and USF for 2 Florida schools
Tulane, Memphis and Cincinnati to finish things off.
Texas probably end up in the Big Ten.
ECU would be a beast in The SEC. That's school has absolute a hundred percent dedication to be a football Powerhouse.
- UCF and USF for 2 Florida schools
Tulane, Memphis and Cincinnati to finish things off.
Texas probably end up in the Big Ten.
ECU would be a beast in The SEC. That's school has absolute a hundred percent dedication to be a football Powerhouse.
The Big 12 is in position to run a 24/7 Network featuring schools from four different time zones. It has potential to be an absolute Cash Cow if they play it right. Advertisers of come flocking.
If the Big 12 adds Houston they are simply trying to keep people out of their recruiting territory.
Seeing this was from a BYU site, I would think their fan base wants to join the B12. Is it mutual? BYU is one of the better supported teams available for expansion. BYU and Cincinnati might be the two best available. I'm interested to see where this goes.
Seems like there's a monthly rumor about the B-12 expanding and eventually it will or see Oklahoma leave.
The question is would the PAC be willing to take them without Texas or if the SEC would be interested in the Sooners thinking Texas might follow them.
I think Texas will remain in the Vitamin conference as long as there's a LHN payment coming in from ESPN . Unless the PAC or SEC allows Texas to keep the LHN , neither conference will be in Texas' plans and Oklahoma's chances of leaving might be slim unless they can bring in TV sets with them.
I think Houston is trying to be that option, but they have a long way to go improving all aspects of their program to be considered by the PAC and the Big 12 has enough schools from Texas in their conference which Texas U would use to keep the Cougars out.
The question is would the PAC be willing to take them without Texas or if the SEC would be interested in the Sooners thinking Texas might follow them.
I think Texas will remain in the Vitamin conference as long as there's a LHN payment coming in from ESPN . Unless the PAC or SEC allows Texas to keep the LHN , neither conference will be in Texas' plans and Oklahoma's chances of leaving might be slim unless they can bring in TV sets with them.
I think Houston is trying to be that option, but they have a long way to go improving all aspects of their program to be considered by the PAC and the Big 12 has enough schools from Texas in their conference which Texas U would use to keep the Cougars out.
I agree, UCF gives them the Orlando Market, Florida recruiting and a huge school that is showing promise. I would then look to Houston or BYU. Houston locks down Texas with a top 10 US City and BYU is one of the few programs with real name recognition available. Cincy would be 4th in my mind and I would completely skip UCONN. They are not a fit at all. UCONN should be hoping the ACC needs a team or just go back to the Big East and drop football.
there are reports from the expansion junkies that so far only BYU has been given the conditional invite..but that leaves the B12 at 11,,depending if they kick Baylor out or not.
The longhorn network and Baylor problems are big hurdles for B12 to figure out first before expansion is voted upon..
The longhorn network and Baylor problems are big hurdles for B12 to figure out first before expansion is voted upon..
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Any discussion of the B12 kicking baylor out is laughably absurd IMO...punish them sure...kick them out of the conference? NO!
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So one team to the NE of the conference is really going to do that? ...especially if you are adding another one way west of anyone currently in the league!?!
Why do people think anyone in the Big 12 cares about WVU's travel problem? It's an economic decision for everyone, not just let's make 1 friggin' game every 2 years an easier road trip for WVU (football only of course).
When uconn gets left behind again maybe their fans will finally realize they never were D-1 material. Next up for AAC is ODU. They'd make a fine rival for someone at uconn's level.
What I am hoping is that Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are Bahdad Bobi'ng the Big12 while being in talks with the Big Ten.
The end result of all of this will eventually be Texas going independant like they want to be anyway, and the Big Ten getting picked apart by the Big Ten, SEC, ACC and PAC12
The end result of all of this will eventually be Texas going independant like they want to be anyway, and the Big Ten getting picked apart by the Big Ten, SEC, ACC and PAC12
The only reason the commissioner would suggest expanding and the other schools would agree is because the conference would get an additional $20 million for each school added. The schools that get added would not get a full share until the end of the current media deal, in turn if you add 4 teams that is $80 million. Give each new team $10 million each and you have a windfall of $4 million each for the original 10 teams plus anything else they get for their championship game. Problem is after the media deal is up, they will not get as good of a deal as they have now. That's when Oklahoma and Texas look for new homes. The rest of the conference moves to group of 5 status.
Texas cant be independent...no longer works for Notre Shame.not with new Playoff format
The Longhorn network problem will in all likelihood resolve itself organically. ESPN is losing money hand over fist on that network and although there are I think 15 years left on the deal I don't see how it can possibly survive under the current format.
It was rumored that several years ago Oklahoma approached the B1G about joining but only as a package deal with Oklahoma State. The B1G said no thanks. I'm pretty sure the B1G would accept Oklahoma as long as they brought Kansas or Texas with them. The B1G would never accept Oklahoma State.
This was the fly in the ointment in the last round of conference expansion as well. The PAC and Oklahoma had mutual interest but the Sooners had the Cowboy handcuffs on then as well. PAC 10 went with Utah instead. Apparently the governor's office and Ok state legislature made it clear the two schools were staying together no matter what...
Matt Hladik on twitter reports B12 expansion being shelved for "several years".
Not surprising to me. There are no valuable properties out there with the possible exception of BYU. Everyone else is nothing but filler.
Not surprising to me. There are no valuable properties out there with the possible exception of BYU. Everyone else is nothing but filler.
The problem is if the Big 12 gets a team or 2 poached, then they are in serious trouble. If Maryland doesn't let a 40 million penalty stop them, you can bet other teams won't be stopped by a GOR either. Can you imagine Texas and Oklahoma going elsewhere (Pac 12, SEC ??), then the Big 12 becomes a G5 like.
Yes it does.
But adding city schools or compass point schools to get to 12 isn't going to prevent that from happening anyway.
It may not prevent it , but that's just the point itself, the Conference will still be left with 10 teams, and not a skeletel (sp?) conference of 8 teams. UCF ,BYU and Houston are Large, very Large schools that would help stop the bleeding a bit should 2 big name schools leave the conference for riches elsewhere, just like MIzzou, Texas A&M, Utah, and Maryland did very recently, and Nebraska and Colorado did a few years before them.
UCF- Largest U in the country , Big TV market
Houston- Huge U, 43,000 students, HUGE TV Market
BYU- large University , 30, 000, not sure about their TV market, but they are a National Brand with Mormons everywhere pulling for them.
Shortsighted by the Big 12 if they do not expand.
What's that phrase about those who do not study history ?
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Top Picks: BYU, Houston
Plan B: Cincinnati, UCF
Has Beens or Never Were's: Boise State, USF, Connecticut, Memphis, Colorado State
Would be remarkable if UCF gets picked for expansion after going 0-12 last year in football.
Plan B: Cincinnati, UCF
Has Beens or Never Were's: Boise State, USF, Connecticut, Memphis, Colorado State
Would be remarkable if UCF gets picked for expansion after going 0-12 last year in football.
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