This stooge defended 3 years of Eddie ineptitude to the death but he's all over Steve, whose been here all of 5 minutes. Laughable.
Carino: Brandin Knight an option for RU
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Who was this guy before he started a new account as "ScarletLongIsland"?? Sounds very familiar, without question has some sort of tight connection with the previous staff and/or at least Shoes, and is acts like if he knows more about basketball than a HC who just took his team to the NCAA tournament knows. Smells fishy to me.
well it looks like there is more than evidence here to see you are pushing an agenda just like a few others who stopped posting since Eddie left
Looks like disagreeing with them makes some posters mad and attack those who disagree.
I was a Jordan supporter for 3 years only ending my support halfway through his third season.
The Jordan era is over, lets end insulting those who supported him despite his record and might not be on the Pikiell bandwagon
This is why Eddie had to go:
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Rutgers Scarlet Knights (American Athletic Conference) (2013–2014)
2013–14 Rutgers 12–21 5–13 7th
Rutgers Scarlet Knights (Big Ten Conference) (2014–present)
2014–15 Rutgers 10–22 2–16 14th
2015–16 Rutgers 7–24 1–17 14th
Rutgers: 29–67 (.302) 8–46 (.148)
This might be the reason a Jordan supporter isn't convinced yet
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Wesleyan (NESCAC) (1995–1996)
1995–96 Wesleyan 5–18 ‡ N/A N/A
Wesleyan: 5–18 (.217) N/A
‡ Interim head coach
Stony Brook (America East) (2005–present)
2005–06 Stony Brook 4–24 2–14 9th
2006–07 Stony Brook 9–20 4–12 9th
2007–08 Stony Brook 7–23 3–13 8th
I think Coach Pikiell will prove more like this
2011–12 Stony Brook 22–10 14–2 1st NIT 1st Round
2012–13 Stony Brook 25–8 14–2 1st NIT 2nd Round
2013–14 Stony Brook 23–11 13–3 2nd CBI 1st Round
2014–15 Stony Brook 23–12 12–4 T–2nd CBI 1st Round
2015–16 Stony Brook 26–6 14–2 1st NCAA First Roun
But won't demand everyone feel the same way and attack someone for not feeling as positive as I do..
I was a Jordan supporter for 3 years only ending my support halfway through his third season.
The Jordan era is over, lets end insulting those who supported him despite his record and might not be on the Pikiell bandwagon
This is why Eddie had to go:
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Rutgers Scarlet Knights (American Athletic Conference) (2013–2014)
2013–14 Rutgers 12–21 5–13 7th
Rutgers Scarlet Knights (Big Ten Conference) (2014–present)
2014–15 Rutgers 10–22 2–16 14th
2015–16 Rutgers 7–24 1–17 14th
Rutgers: 29–67 (.302) 8–46 (.148)
This might be the reason a Jordan supporter isn't convinced yet
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Wesleyan (NESCAC) (1995–1996)
1995–96 Wesleyan 5–18 ‡ N/A N/A
Wesleyan: 5–18 (.217) N/A
‡ Interim head coach
Stony Brook (America East) (2005–present)
2005–06 Stony Brook 4–24 2–14 9th
2006–07 Stony Brook 9–20 4–12 9th
2007–08 Stony Brook 7–23 3–13 8th
I think Coach Pikiell will prove more like this
2011–12 Stony Brook 22–10 14–2 1st NIT 1st Round
2012–13 Stony Brook 25–8 14–2 1st NIT 2nd Round
2013–14 Stony Brook 23–11 13–3 2nd CBI 1st Round
2014–15 Stony Brook 23–12 12–4 T–2nd CBI 1st Round
2015–16 Stony Brook 26–6 14–2 1st NCAA First Roun
But won't demand everyone feel the same way and attack someone for not feeling as positive as I do..
Getting on this board and supporting Jordan or bashing Jordan or bashing Pikiell is silly.
Forgot the past, think about and stay positive about the future.
My opinion was Jordan deserved another year with a full roster, BUT, he got fired. Forgot him and concentrate on what Coach Pikiell needs to do to be successful for Rutgers Basketball.
That's the first and last time I'll mention him since he was fired..........he's gone.. Forgot about him. Those engaging in " I told you so" are silly.
This is what just about every Eddie "supporter" wanted. And as I have posted many times, but guys like BAC can't grasp is not only what you posted but I posted we were not ready to make the proper hire if we fired Eddie now and our search and hire showed I was correct. That said, I fully support our new coach and will hope for better results.
we did make a proper hire, we got a guy who can coach and knows the college game. That puts us in the game going forward. Pikell may or may not succeed but he gives us a fighting chance
Agree with this. We reportedly offered the world to Danny and he still turned us down. We hired a good coach with a lot of upside. If we had waited a year that wouldn't have changed, this job has such a bad rep, coaches would still be turning RU down.
because the Jordan/Vetrone friends and colleagues who post on the board were rallying around the idea that Jordan would go 500 next year and everything would be on the uptick, recruits would come in and Jordan would be extended. Their agenda really showed, almost to the point where they were trying to make a case for Jordan to stay even though it really was a foregone conclusion
You are total clown shoes. Claiming that half the team would transfer if shoes is not retained is ridiculous. Vetrone helped coach a team to 7 wins last year, anyone we hire will do better, you can't possibly do worse. The truth hurts. Get a life clown shoes.
Also what about the idea that cleaning house with the staff is "been there, done that"?? Didn't EJ keep Macon AND Cox to do EXACTLY what you are suggesting? Coach just started. Let him evaluate what he wants to do.
You say you "fully support our new coach," but in the same post you make a conflicting claim that Hobbs made the wrong hire. That doesn't sound like you fully support him. Jordan's gone and he deserved to be fired. Pikiell is an excellent coach with a history of success, not sure how you could say he won't be successful. I don't have a crystal ball, but I know Rutgers will be in better hands with Pikiell.
What is you're definition of "proper hire"? What metric on your decision scale does our new coach not meet? If you thought we were going to hire an experienced head coach with a wining record at a P5 program I think you over estimate the desirability of our job. That is a point I posted more than once.
We are offering competitive pay. I'm not sure with even doubling the salary we'd have many more choices than what Hobbs was working with. I do not know if a "sure thing, big name" would come here for 5 times what Pickell is getting. Curious who you thought we should properly land and what we'd need to pay him to come.
Seriously, the last RU coach to be fired prematurely was Gary Waters. Had RU retained Jordan, what would have happened? Would we, starting in March, have embarked on a comprehensive search for a new coach, with EJ in place? That would have been ever so good for his morale and that of he team--and almost certainly have produced startlingly good results on the court??? Would all kinds of perfect choices have emerged, looking for new challenges? Truth is, there is never a good time to fire a coach, and finding a new one is never easy and always roils the fanbase. Those of you that hoped for a Pitino type, dream on. 7-24 teams with lots of baggage have to settle. We did better than could be expected, getting a guy with lots of upside.
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Typically when someone starts posting about 1 sport and 1 sport only on these boards, with very 1-sided views about things, there's a reason. Throw on top of it constantly kissing the ass of an individual coach, or player, and odds are pretty damn good THAT is the "reason." It also happens in the case of a person hating on an individual player or coach - as I've found with at least 1 of our Olympic sports - but not quite as often.
has this happened a lot in the past...any examples that were confirmed?
sPitt Board.. on Knight..
https://pittsburgh.forums.rivals.co...-knight-taking-the-assistant-gig.75882/page-2
https://pittsburgh.forums.rivals.co...-knight-taking-the-assistant-gig.75882/page-2
Sounds like his delay is because he has more options. This may last a few more days. My guess is he ends up somewhere else with a faster chance to become a head coach.
Our new coach was not a hot name. Was he being looked at by any other P5 schools? Look, I think Hobbs did the best he could with what we have to offer. TCU hired Jamie Dixon. VT hired Buzz Williams. This is a big time job if we offered a competitive salary not just for the HC but for the assistants and for recruiting budgets. None of us know what we really had to offer but we can see it's not that much money wise based on the head coach salary and assistant coaches salaries. If we would have waited another year Hobbs would have had much more to sell IMO. But I am done. I don't want to rip our new coach. He seems like a good guy and I love RU hoops. I have no agenda other than wanting them to go to the NCAA tournament. When I made this argument though I said we would settle for a coach from a low level division with moderate success and that a person with that background would have a hard time bringing in top 100 players. I hope I am wrong because without top 100 player consistently being landed we ain't dancing.
Okay so we know this:
- as expected there is probably a .00000001% chance that Corey Sanders returns for a 3rd year OTB
- Corey may be gone long before next year, if he gets drafted or signs, but I doubt he goes somewhere else and sits out a year if he's ready to go "pro" now. Makes no sense. Would probably go to Europe before doing any such thing.
...regardless, IMHO, he is now "out" of the "Shoes MUST stay" equation. Now there may be others still involved in it, I get that, but as far as I'm concerned Corey has completely removed himself.
- as expected there is probably a .00000001% chance that Corey Sanders returns for a 3rd year OTB
- Corey may be gone long before next year, if he gets drafted or signs, but I doubt he goes somewhere else and sits out a year if he's ready to go "pro" now. Makes no sense. Would probably go to Europe before doing any such thing.
...regardless, IMHO, he is now "out" of the "Shoes MUST stay" equation. Now there may be others still involved in it, I get that, but as far as I'm concerned Corey has completely removed himself.
Uhm, wasn't "TheHype" directly linked to one of our assistants? Not a bad guy, however, was a flat-out hit-and-run poster for a couple of years whom we will probably never see here again, right? There have been others over the years, as well, can't remember all the names. Sorry.
He said he wasn't associated with Cox, but....
RUOhio says he is Jordan's 3rd cousin. I don't believe him. I think he just collects basketball cards and has Jordan's rookie card in near mint condition.
Who else?
Dude, I gave you an example, I don't need to give you more and as I just stated I can't remember all their names (because they don't stink around long...). There have been plenty, however, including posters affiliated with other sports.
FIG, you must be a little brain dead and not be able to recognize a joke when you see it. NOT RELATED in any way.
Great now we got posters fighting over sense of humor along with others accusing other posters of being close to a coach and the reason they post like they do.
I think Brandin isn't coming to RU because of "Nepotism"
He had faxed his acceptance for the top assistant's job to Rutgers, But Pat Hobbs hid it from Pikiell and hired his twin brother Karl instead.
Well, that's a fine how-do-you-do if you ask me !
I think Brandin isn't coming to RU because of "Nepotism"
He had faxed his acceptance for the top assistant's job to Rutgers, But Pat Hobbs hid it from Pikiell and hired his twin brother Karl instead.
Well, that's a fine how-do-you-do if you ask me !
there was a Fred Hill guy Big East Beast, there were Flood guys beyond the yahoos who were regulars. Jordan has several that popped up this season. The usual response is that they have no connection but you can tell because they go out of their way to defend the coach in a manner that is striking.
There was and will always be posters with connections coming on this board, but there also are those who see things differently that don't have a connection to anyone.
Also there are those who don't like being disagreed and look for reasons to discredit those they disagree with.
Then there are those who enjoy a friendly debate and push their POV and enjoy being over the top at times
Since I don't know whose who, I just take posters at face value and go by what they post and not who I think they know.
Accusations are easy to make, but proving them can be hard .
Generalizations are not a sign of proof, just a way to say posters should be wary of the reason
some posters stick up for a coach or assistant.
Also there are those who don't like being disagreed and look for reasons to discredit those they disagree with.
Then there are those who enjoy a friendly debate and push their POV and enjoy being over the top at times
Since I don't know whose who, I just take posters at face value and go by what they post and not who I think they know.
Accusations are easy to make, but proving them can be hard .
Generalizations are not a sign of proof, just a way to say posters should be wary of the reason
some posters stick up for a coach or assistant.
Any chance Knight becomes our number 2 Assistant? Him, or Donyell Marshall would make for a home run staff
Can't see it, but it would be tremendous. Will be interesting to see where he winds up
