Carroo's Girlfriend Finally Press Charges
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Positioning, jockeying and justifying has begun. Popcorn time folks.
True. That happens sometimes.
The difference here is that the charges against Ms. Vega, her father and Carroo's mother were filed by the Piscataway PD.
The complaints against Ms. Hawkins and the alleged victim were signed by Ms. Vega.
Bwahaha you will be on the anti Caroo team till the bitter end. Hilarious.
You should stop being retarded long enough to realize - and admit - that I have NEVER "insisted Carroo was guilty".
The only thing I've done for the last two weeks is:
1. Post information as it was presented to me by people not on this board.
2. Correct the mistakes of others with respect to information that is already on the record (see previous post).
Not true. Read my previous post.
The only thing I'm "anti" is you, because you've shown yourself to be in the front of the pack for stupidest person here.
I have completely lost track of who did what at this point and since no one seems to be permanently injured, I don't think I care anymore. I just want the nonsense to end and basketball season to start.
Her timing seems odd to me.
Her boyfriend was obviously in contact with 2 very respected lawyers, immediately after being arrested. He obviously is talking to her. She obviously comes in his conversations with his counsel. If her request to file charges immediately was "rebuffed," NOBODY will convince me that a follow up attempt to file a complaint was rebuffed once she lawyers up--until today
Her boyfriend was obviously in contact with 2 very respected lawyers, immediately after being arrested. He obviously is talking to her. She obviously comes in his conversations with his counsel. If her request to file charges immediately was "rebuffed," NOBODY will convince me that a follow up attempt to file a complaint was rebuffed once she lawyers up--until today
Positioning, jockeying and justifying has begun. Popcorn time folks.
Your posts here have been plentiful and you are free to think that. I'll let others decide what that saw and interpreted. Please carry on though, it is all very amusing to those who haven't taken sides.
Your posts here have been plentiful and you are free to think that. I'll let others decide what that saw and interpreted. Please carry on though, it is all very amusing to those who haven't taken sides.
"With all due respect" ... the phrase that really says, "with no respect at all, imma bout to verbally head-butt you right in the ballsack".
Not getting sucked into this third rate detective I slept at a Holiday Inn and am a lawyer nonsense. Smart people let the facts come out. I'll wait until they do then have an opinion. Don't start waiting now, it's a little too late for that.
Yeah, but it was a pretty lightweight blow - since he obviously didn't have any material input.
This cross-complaint is a classic legal maneuver. The former Morris County prosecutor interviewed for the NJ.com story stresses that. Any dime store lawyer representing somebody charged after a fight will advise their client to file a cross-complaint.
You shouldn't be so down on legal opinions. I'm sure you must have paid for one before you signed the pre-nup your wife handed you, right?
I've been able to keep track of that. However, I've completely lost track of who the "stupidest " or most "retarded" (nice) poster is. For those posters hell bent on these type of rankings kindly provide a score sheet or other means of keeping track. Thanks in advance.
Seeing as how he wrote it and didn't say it, it was also a mute point.
I wasn't trying to take sides; I just really enjoy deliciously ironic phrases like that one.
regardless of what happened that night it's all about changing the narrative and creating pressure on the alleged victim . the alleged victim elected to take her story to the press. her dad followed suit. imo, they should stayed quiet. in any event, she had the press eating out of her hand. heck, she felt so embolden that she actually showed up to court without an attorney present. so, it was time to flip the script. step one was shane showing up at court. the alleged victim didn;t see that coming and she didn't have an attorney with her to advise her what would happen. so it prompted the alleged victim to go outside and start talking again. what did she do? she admitted that she was mounted on top of vega. (absent a prevailing self defense defense, that's assault folks.) step two was releasing the video. sure there are a lot of people who may think that it doesn't show the entire incident(s). yet, there are others who will look at it and see that alleged victim was not an innocent sole who was attacked. she was an aggressor with a group of friends at least in the few seconds that were released. so, with the damage done and nothing more to gain, it was time for step three -- filing the charges today.
filing today was a legal move. it could have been done the day after the incident. but, LC's attorneys likely counseled her (correctly) to stay quiet and see what happens. yes, she was arrested and caught up in the wash, but, in the interim, it looks like LC's attorneys got the alleged victim to give at least 2 (if not 3) different versions of the story. it never would have happened if she was arrested on day two b/c her criminal lawyer never would have let her talk to the press.
Nah, don't play that game.
Opinions? You just said you had facts. We will know soon enough what is fact and what isn't. We can all revisit then.
I think that the alleged victim got ambushed by a reporter who called her on the phone sounding all sympathetic, so she talked. She shouldn't have, but she's a kid.
I totally agree with you about her father. His statements to the press about "how is the University going to make my daughter feel safe?" were obvious maneuvering and he should have just kept his mouth shut.
The stupid thing is that if all she's looking for is a payday, then potentially trashing Carroo's draft status seems like an odd way to go about it.
Which leads to a question that has troubled me since this whole thing started getting all discombobulated:
If he never laid a hand on her, why would she claim that he had? If Carro's friend whatshisname was the only person who hit her, then why didn't she just tell the cops that when it happened?
Exactly. Standard OP not only in defense strategies but in DV cases. Pile on the victim (both legally and in the media if it is a higher profile case) as much as you possibly can in the hopes that the victim just walks away.
As I'm sure you know, most people who encounter an explosively violent situation make very poor witnesses. It takes training and experience to correct that. Which I'm sure she didn't have. It's entirely within the realm of possibility that she thought it was Carroo even if it wasn't.
Because the fight was about jealousy over LC. Moreover, she stated that she knew it wasn't Shane due to his smaller size as she stated and will be shoved down her throat in any legal proceeding. Hardly a positive ID.
And the other witnesses, upon whom the RUPD relied for statements, made the same mistake?
Impossible? No. Likely? Ehh... I don't think so.
i believe i got a very similar version of the incident from my LE source that you got. i didn't hear about the friend. that doesn't mean it wasn't him but that didn't fit the story i was given. as for the girl, i am starting to question her veracity but that's unfair to her b/c i am merely watching from 10k feet at this point. however, we have all known people who just love drama. we also know people who are vindictive.
one last thing -- while there may be video and/or eyewitness evidence to the contrary we know that she never saw who actually grabbed and her b/c she said something like ":i knew it wasn't shane b/c he's small and LC's big and strong". (paraphrasing of course). if she saw it was LC, she would have simply said, "i saw it was LC who grabbed me."
one last thing -- while there may be video and/or eyewitness evidence to the contrary we know that she never saw who actually grabbed and her b/c she said something like ":i knew it wasn't shane b/c he's small and LC's big and strong". (paraphrasing of course). if she saw it was LC, she would have simply said, "i saw it was LC who grabbed me."
Bitnez.
Finally, someone is paying attention. I pointed this out in other threads. This is huge.
Finally, someone is paying attention. I pointed this out in other threads. This is huge.
When there's only one thing that applies, there's only one thing you can say.
That's not my rule. It's just the way life goes.
JPhoboken said: ↑
Using her words, she said she tried to press charges but was " rebuffed."
>Bill Mazraani, who represents Vega, said his client tried to file a criminal complaint at the time with the Rutgers police, but was rebuffed.<
http://nypost.com/2015/09/23/rutgers-stars-lawyer-blames-victim-in-concrete-slam/
Using her words, she said she tried to press charges but was " rebuffed."
This is what JPhoboken is probably referring to ;
>Bill Mazraani, who represents Vega, said his client tried to file a criminal complaint at the time with the Rutgers police, but was rebuffed.<
http://nypost.com/2015/09/23/rutgers-stars-lawyer-blames-victim-in-concrete-slam/
While I have nothing to prove that this isn't true, I have a hard time believing that it's true.
What I can see, just based on having seen many, many similar situations go down, is that the RUPD told her at the time that if she wanted to file a complaint - as opposed to them arresting the alleged victim based on Ms. Vega's say-so - that she would be more than welcome to go down to the Piscataway PD in the morning and do it. That makes perfect sense.
