When you've made billions, meh, you can call that category whatever the f* you want, lol!
Carroo's Girlfriend Finally Press Charges
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When you've made billions, meh, you can call that category whatever the f* you want, lol!
RU FOR REAL is a joke and probably a drunk and a weed head. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Without context of the article or qualification that it is her quote, and therefore her side of the story, how does this statement read to you?
Ok well continue hoping for the worst of Rutgers' best player on a Rutgers website. You're really impressing a lot of people.
I thought the video shows the alleged victim and her girlfriends swinging purses (probably filled with bricks) at Caroo's current girlfriend. Sounds like she has a case to file charges.
Nobody is "rooting for the worst."
In your stepping on each other's dicks to get to the front of "Rutgers Ride or Die" line, you're losing sight of what's truly important.
I root for the laundry.
Just as LC doesn't owe me anything, I don't owe him unconditional loyalty. At best, he put our program, his teammates and himself (in that order) in a terrible spot by his actions leading up to and including that night. At worst, he committed a crime. If the legal system exonerates him, which I hope it does, I think he should be reinstated immediately.
However, what I won't do, is take every opportunity to suspend logic in the name of proving my fandom on a message board. To me, the fact that Ms. Vega filed a counter complaint demonstrates she has competent legal counsel--nothing more, nothing less. Her being previously "rebuffed," while certainly possible, seems counter to everything everyone knows about filing a complaint. The fact that the responding officers signed the complaint against LC, based on at least some level of on scene investigation, has to hold some weight in sifting through the details that have been released.
In your stepping on each other's dicks to get to the front of "Rutgers Ride or Die" line, you're losing sight of what's truly important.
I root for the laundry.
Just as LC doesn't owe me anything, I don't owe him unconditional loyalty. At best, he put our program, his teammates and himself (in that order) in a terrible spot by his actions leading up to and including that night. At worst, he committed a crime. If the legal system exonerates him, which I hope it does, I think he should be reinstated immediately.
However, what I won't do, is take every opportunity to suspend logic in the name of proving my fandom on a message board. To me, the fact that Ms. Vega filed a counter complaint demonstrates she has competent legal counsel--nothing more, nothing less. Her being previously "rebuffed," while certainly possible, seems counter to everything everyone knows about filing a complaint. The fact that the responding officers signed the complaint against LC, based on at least some level of on scene investigation, has to hold some weight in sifting through the details that have been released.
Since the original complaint involved DV, there is resistance to accept a complaint against them. Even if they were the aggressor. Once DV was filed they would initially resist any complaint against the victim. SOP.
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What if Carroo only did as the video shows and simply removed his gf from being attacked? Because right now those are the only facts we have.
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We also have the "very reputable" :rolleyes: former girlfriend saying she was either "body slammed on concrete" (First story) or "picked up and dropped" (2nd story) or "grabbed by the arm, slipped and fell" (3rd story). I'm not sure which one she wants everyone to believe.
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What do you mean, what if? That doesn't change my position at all.
I would surmise the charges will be dismissed and he'll be reinstated.
However, there is at least one other fact.
The alleged victim was given an ambulance ride to the ER, no?
I can't readily accept this, if for no other reason than I've seen alleged victims of domestic violence charged on multiple occasions.
I base my perspectives on this story on the fact that there are multiple local LEOs who I talk to every day - including one who would have direct knowledge of this case. And from what they tell me, your suggestion seems implausible. Especially given the fact that Ms. Vega is not accused of an act of domestic violence against the alleged victim - what we're talking about here, materially and chronologically, are two completely separate incidents. Regardless of whether or not the RUPD had reason to believe that Leonte Carroo assaulted the victim in this case, if their investigation at the scene revealed any probable cause demonstrating that that same alleged victim separately assaulted Ms. Vega, they should have charged her on the spot.
So Caroo was the only person that could have done it? What if he did do it, but was purely incidental?
Oh ok.
The nitpicking that goes on here boggles my mind sometimes.
You said LC's girlfriend filing a complaint now was a strategy. All I said was from what I heard, she wanted to initially but was rebuffed. Her words not mine. Yes, through an attorney, so since you didn't hear the words from her you have every right to believe she isn't telling the truth, or her attorney is lying.
Following that logic, since none of us heard the words the victim told the interviewer who wrote her story, then to be precise, it's what her interviewer wrote, not necessarily what she said, or if reported correctly, she could be lying.
The point is I don't know who is telling the truth. Whether they say it, or an Attorney says it, or an interviewer says it, either one could be lying, so rather than try the case here, maybe we should wait for the legal system to work.
Yes. Which is why the timing seems odd to me.
Alleged victim and her friends jump Ms. Vega.
LC's mom gets involved and also gets hit.
LC (or Shane) throw alleged victim to the ground.
RUPD only charges LC?
Why? why the conspiracy against LC?
Which is really the only point. The only defense is that LC didn't touch her--not whether or not she attacked someone else first.
Everything I told you last week has come to pass. As I told you, I have personal experience in this area. You really should take a step back and realize how wrong it is to spout off as you have. You were so arrogant last week, suggesting how stupid people were when they mentioned hearing information that now turns out to be exactly what has come out over the last few days. Maybe it is just a good defense attorney...maybe it is the truth.
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No, not actually.
She was transported to the ER via POV, i.e. her friends drove her.
Which does, incidentally, highlight a discrepancy in her story.
I recall her first account to the media (I don't have the article handy, but I'm sure someone can find it) saying something like "I woke up and somebody was hitting me in the head with a traffic cone."
That statement, at the time, was offered in support of the allegation that Carroo picker her up and "slammed her to the pavement", when she presumably struck her head and lost consciousness.
Around these parts, positive LOC is an automatic ambulance ride. A patient who has lost consciousness is presumed to be unqualified to give explicit consent, all consent for treatment is implied and that patient is transported.
So with regard to that part of her story, either it's inaccurate or whatever squad was called to the scene screwed the pooch.
What if?
I'm not following the point you're attempting to make.
I'm simply telling you, I'm not now, nor have I been, "hoping for the worst."
I'm looking at the details as they emerge and commenting. Just like a few dozen other people on this board.
You choose to look at the details your way, I'll look at them mine.
I see Shane seeing his boy from grammar school being arrested for a crime he allegedly committed and not saying anything.
I see Ms. Vega claiming to have been the initial victim of an assault but not pressing charges for 10 or so days.
On the other hand, I see comments from the victim and her family that make me question her motivation and her truthfulness.
I see a team captain that is exercising pretty poor judgement on multiple fronts, and pretty obviously for an extended period of time.
The whole thing is a sad state of affairs for the program.
The ambulance ride really doesn't prove much....if it's based on her self report that she hit her head on the ground she would probably get that ride automatically or she can insist to go to the ER. The actual ER report would be more telling.
I've since learned that she didn't actually get an "ambulance ride." And I agree, in and of itself it wouldn't prove anything.
We agree on that.
But to your previous point, she's not helping herself. There are definitely inconsistencies in her story. That one just popped out at me when I read it because of my own training and background, which led me to immediately think, "Wait a minute... if she lost consciousness, then why wasn't she transported?"
To this point, I've tried hard not to interject my actual *opinion*, but since some people here have accused me of doing otherwise, I'll offer it now.
In MY OPINION - ain't none of these assholes telling the truth. Not one of them. Nobody.
To answer your question (even though we know there was no ambulance ride) - she's a student. The ride is free. Student health pays for it, if she were to be transported by a non-volunteer agency.
From what I've seen, the only non-volunteer agency that covers RU football games is Monroe First Aid.
My view on this situation is based largely on credibility. So far, based on the facts that have come out, including the video, the alleged victim does not seem very credible. BUT, time will tell.
I think people who have been around a few street scuffles and/or been caught dipping in another honey jar, know what happened. It just wouldn't be particularly prudent to speculate here.
I have very little doubt that the alleged victim started talking shit.
The only relevant question for us fans, is what did LC actually do
Actually RU, if there had been any concern on the part of the ED physicians about the severity of her injuries, it is possible she would have been kept overnight for observation. Some patients are categorized as "observation" and kept overnight, but are considered outpatients provided they are sent home within a certain time frame. It is an insurance/reimbursement driven thing, but the obsevation tag still does exist.
So you're saying that they're not admitted.
Which is really just a semantic argument. Somebody cooling their heels in the ED who hasn't been admitted will generally, after a few hours, insist on leaving.
The point that I'm making is that nobody is admitted to a medical floor through the ED for "observation".
The facts are, no one really knows the facts and are only giving their opinions on what they think they know.
As we can see by some of the posts in this thread, what someone thinks they know, they find out their wrong about it.
As we can see by some of the posts in this thread, what someone thinks they know, they find out their wrong about it.
In one of the articles I read, it seemed he was interviewed and claimed to have told the police that he was the one that shoved the victim causing her to fall to the ground. I have no idea if it's true or not, but it's possible that he did try and in the confusion at the scene, was ignored.
All I know is that I haven't seen or heard enough to come remotely close to being able to figure out what really happened. Lots of conflicting information coming in.
Leonte should've stayed inside and this thread could've been blissfully avoided. However, if it was my girlfriend and mom out there, I can't imagine I would've stayed inside either.
You are easily impressed. Considering your position on the potential eat crow list, it isn't a surprise. You are top 5 on one side.
Guess we will see what happens.
