Carroo's lawyer says Leonte didn't touch victim (Video Link Included)
- Thread starter THERAC
- Start date
A backup doesn't get thrown out of school on the basis of a bunch of false criminal charges. That's what Duke did. Leonte is still a student.
[QUO
TE="Leonard23, post: 665639, member: 2352"]Yeah I don't like that she's just blaming the big strong guy because she thinks the smaller guy couldn't have done it. Sounds like she never saw who did whatever to her & her story is falling apart.[/QUOTE]
This guy could not pick her up and "Slam her into the concrete" !!!
TE="Leonard23, post: 665639, member: 2352"]Yeah I don't like that she's just blaming the big strong guy because she thinks the smaller guy couldn't have done it. Sounds like she never saw who did whatever to her & her story is falling apart.[/QUOTE]
This guy could not pick her up and "Slam her into the concrete" !!!
We have a lot of disagreement in this thread. I'm heading up to the exit of the Hale Center right now. Anyone in, we can have a live debate and see what unfolds. . . . . ?
Choppin funny stuff. Nothing wrong with humor in these times. No knock on you but I don't think people are picking up on the "victim's" quote. I tried to be subtle in my post. Evidently too subtle. There are also those posters who dissect every word but are quiet about the "victim's" quote. This is easily the biggest revelation to date unless of course, an eyewitness said LC did the "slamming to the concrete."
Wow, I was just having a little gentle fun, because you picked on Knight Shift for his misuse of a word, figuring I'd do the same, since I usually only pick on someone's language when they pick on someone else first. And I get you dropping f-bombs, making childish comments about my weather posts (which you know are usually pretty good), and making the usual thinly veiled threats.
Seems a little disproportionate to me. Especially when you compounded being wrong in your original post with being really wrong in your follow up (or at least using substandard, frowned upon usage, which is certainly "wrong" for me). Let me walk you through it. You said, "But this video doesn't tell us that for sure--you know, like the word corroborate would infer."
While there may be some dictionaries that include definition 4 as acceptable, I'd be surprised if you didn't know that that usage is generally considered non-standard, especially in formal writing. The bible of dictionaries, the OED, includes that usage, but labels it non-standard.
2. infer (that)…infer something(non-standard)to suggest indirectly that something is true
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/learner/infer
And the same website does a very nice job explaining the differences between imply and infer, corroborating what I said in my initial post: "When someone infers something, they reach a conclusion or decide that something is true on the basis of the evidence available." Human beings use the process of deduction to infer conclusions based on the evidence they see - a word or other inanimate object (like your use of "corroborate" (the subject which is inferring) is unable to think and therefore is unable to infer. In your example, the word corroborate would imply something (that knightshift was sure based on the video, which was incorrect, as you correctly pointed out) not infer it.
http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/10/imply-or-infer/
Lastly, in terms of how educated people should be using these words, the link below does a superb job of pointing out the differences between the two words. Feel free to keep misusing them, but don't be surprised when you get raised eyebrows or worse from your boss or editor.
Imply vs. infer
To imply is to express something indirectly. For example, you might imply that it’s time for a guest to leave by saying that you are getting tired. To infer is to surmise or conclude, especially from indirect evidence. For example, if you were to tell a guest that you’re getting tired, the guest might infer that it’s time to leave.
More broadly, infer means to deduce. For example, when the sky grows dark in the middle of the day, you might infer that it’s probably going to storm.
Infer has been used in place of imply so often and for so long that some dictionaries now list it as a synonym of imply in a secondary sense. In edited writing, however, the traditional distinction is usually kept intact.
http://grammarist.com/usage/imply-infer/
Fair point, probably went a bit too far using the word, "useless," but there's no doubt a partial video might not be showing all kinds of other behavior that witnesses could corroborate, which would be harmful (or helpful) to Carroo's case. Point being people shouldn't be using it to draw definitive conclusions about the outcome of the case.
Right.
The usage of infer above is perfectly acceptable outside of serious academic writing.
A Rutgers message board is now "formal writing?"
Is that before or after you post anecdotes of yourself standing in your yard licking snowflakes off the tip of your nose?
You're the first person in history to take an actual definition of a word and say, "nah, that's not accepted." Congrats on that.
Educated people? Let's see
BS USNA > BS Rutgers
MS DUKE > MS Rutgers
Joint MBA/PhD Rutgers = PhD Rutgers
Any other arguments you would like to make tonight counselor? Or can I infer that you've had enough?
I find myself longing for late Saturday night. Talking about how badly we got our a$$es kicked and why (you know, football) was still a lot more fun than talking about this garbage.
Oh, by the way, that usage of "infer" is a mistake. When you get to definition 4 in some dictionaries, you've often reached the definition that was added because some people so often misuse the word that way. To define "infer" to mean both "infer" and "imply" is to turn it into a mess.
Not that it matters. There are so many words misused, and we all do it. Hardly anybody can get "that" and "which" right, and the British have stopped even trying.
Not that it matters. There are so many words misused, and we all do it. Hardly anybody can get "that" and "which" right, and the British have stopped even trying.
Will definitions 1 or 2 make you feel better? Or how about a list of synonyms?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infer
I love a good fight. First it was Caroo and family vs. Former Girlfriend. Now it's Infer vs. Imply Fight. [banana]
I'll pass. Don't want to hurt anyone no matter how much they may deserve it.:boxing:
I have it on good authority - contact at AOL -, that HCKF will be meeting with the New Brunswick Police Chief at an undisclosed Bed Bath & Beyond, to gently discuss the possibility of any extra credit assignments Leonte can submit to the NBPD, in an effort to have all charges dropped. Note: Kyle will be wearing a fashionable cloak, with the Block R conspicuously absent. More to follow...
You sure wrote enough. Maybe I'll wait for the movie but it would have to be a fictional account. That video has zero value to either side. It doesn't cover the crime. It's a before or after account. Does not cover the incident at all.
I think it shows a lot. It shows the fight, at some point, that is completely opposite with what the victim originally said. Instead, it shows her and her crew attacking Caroo's Mom and GF.
Will you listen to Willis, then? Or are you so stubborn you can't admit when you're wrong? Because you're wrong on this one - own it. If you don't, we may have to reprise Willis's famous "wrongoriffic" post from about 10 years ago that I think chased vincito away from the board forever. @willisneverrana43 - did you save that? Please say yes and repost.
Also, for the record, the field might matter to some...
BS USNA ? BS Rutgers, Chem Eng'g
MS DUKE ? MS Rutgers, Chem Eng'g
Joint MBA/PhD Rutgers ? Interdisciplinary PhD, combining chemical eng'g, environmental law and public policy (the first ever interdisciplinary PhD involving the School of Eng'g at RU), Rutgers
Also, how many refereed journal articles have you published and how many patents do you have? I'm at about 8 and 3, respectively. Obviously, I have nothing to compare to your military service, but that's not what we're arguing about here.
I would rather see numbers and hudson go at it, and have numbers pull out a foreign object with the words infer and imply stamped on them. I don't even remember what the hell happened in the critique of my use of corroborate, but those two are going at it like two girls who want the same star football player. Must be some bad blood between them.
My wife says I like to argue for sport, so unless I've misjudged Hudson, I don't think he's taking this that seriously either. "Bad blood" would be way overstating it. It's a message board. People argue.
Well, I am a make love not war kind of guy. BTW, I did not mean to infer or imply that you or hudson would fight like girls. Often the fighting skills of girls are better than boys, which can be corroborated by Rhonda Rousey.
All is good. I just think the whole argument is silly.
If you ever need help on a patent from someone who does not know how to corroborate, shoot me a message.
Knowing Hudson's background, I don't think I would ever let it get to fighting, lol. Of course the argument, at a fundamental level, is silly - at that level everything on this board is silly. Yet we're still here posting. It's social, it's entertainment and yeah, it's silly. That's why I've never understood why people sometimes blow gaskets around here.
With regard to patents, being in Big Pharma, the company lawyers take care of all the patent work. I get a whole dollar for each one. And now I don't do any real work any more, so I'm probably done with patents, although sometimes managers get added to them if they had real input.
If it's shown he didn't throw anyone to the ground then of course he's coming back. He should have also not been suspended until proven guilty, but considering everything that was going on at the time and the fact that the administration has no balls I'm not surprised.
It's over...apologies for escalating it.
Though, I will not admit I was wrong, because in common conversation, I'm not. But whatevs...
;)
No, you're a pompous self important person. It's pretty well known. Nice try downgrading the ass kicking you're taking though.
The field of study matters to some? lol
Nuclear Engineering
International Relations/International Political Economy
International Political Economy/Finance/Strategy and Leadership
8 journal articles and 3 patents, eh? Impressive. I don't have anything that matches that. I co-authored 3 journal articles before moving on from academia.
BUT, I have a professional certification or two:
HALO/HAHO qualified
Dive Supervisor
Rappel Master
Fast Rope Master
Sniper/Sniper Instructor qualified
You want my list of medals too?
I won't embarrass you, but I'm pretty sure a Silver star w Valor trumps your molecule patents in any bar in the western hemisphere (and I have 2 of them ;) )
Willis might be the smartest guy on this board and he sided with me on this one. Just sayin'. And you have your head so far up Hudson's ass it's not funny, so I'll continue to ignore your meaningless opinion.
