"Chris is our starting quarterback"
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And it would be sickening to hear that drivel. Beating Army and an in shambles Maryland shows nothing. But youre right, we will see Flood talking about all of the experience and the bright future.
And the "Destructor" will seek to continue dismantling the fball and school reputation, drive down enthusiasm more and outright INTENTIONALLY alienate the very people that provide support for his position. Our only hope is that the decision makers can see through the misleading data that wins against Army and Md would be.
Let's just say you were pwned! So if a handful of people do worse- that proves your point?! Must be nice to be the tallest midget at the dance.
And it would be sickening to hear that drivel. Beating Army and an in shambles Maryland shows nothing. But youre right, we will see Flood talking about all of the experience and the bright future.
And the "Destructor" will seek to continue dismantling the fball and school reputation, drive down enthusiasm more and outright INTENTIONALLY alienate the very people that provide support for his position. Our only hope is that the decision makers can see through the misleading data that wins against Army and Md would be.
Dear slyker, here are the stats that disprove everything you've been trying to argue. Below are the total passing yards against Nebraska defense vs. our performance. Everyone did better... even South Alabama and Southern Mississippi.
Michigan State: 348 yards, 4 tds
Purdue: 274 yards, 4 tds
Northwestern: 177 yards, 1 td
Minnesota: 301 yards, 1 td
Wisconsin: 322 yards, 1 td
Illinois: 251 yards, 2 tds
Southern Miss.: 447 yards, 2 tds
Miami: 379 yards, 2 tds
South Alabama: 313 yards
BYU: 379 yards, 2 tds
Laviano: 165 yards, 0 tds
Good luck spinning that.
Michigan State: 348 yards, 4 tds
Purdue: 274 yards, 4 tds
Northwestern: 177 yards, 1 td
Minnesota: 301 yards, 1 td
Wisconsin: 322 yards, 1 td
Illinois: 251 yards, 2 tds
Southern Miss.: 447 yards, 2 tds
Miami: 379 yards, 2 tds
South Alabama: 313 yards
BYU: 379 yards, 2 tds
Laviano: 165 yards, 0 tds
Good luck spinning that.
The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein relatively unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than is accurate. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their own ineptitude and evaluate their own ability accurately.
Basically, slyker has no idea what a dope he is.
So are we down to one fludd supporter willing to openly declare himself? Good, that means rutgers is now only 2 years from firing their flat tire of a coach.
Are you people all stupid, or just have reading comprehension problems. The only statement I made was that other power 5 QB's had similar or worse statistical days against those defenses. It was a thread from the night of the Michigan game. The above data shows there were other P5 QB;s that had similar and worse statistical days than CL. This is all I stated and the statistics are there to prove it. Case closed.
Hmm and lots did better. So your point is???? Let me guess "our guy was stinky but not as stinky as some others, so by definition he was less stinky."
But our QB has had a bad day against EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
My lord, you are daft. What I was proving to you is that 10 other QBs universally performed better against the same Nebraska defense. Your point was "oh, it's not Chris's fault - we've played great defenses and other qbs were bad against them too" ... well guess what every single QB that played the same defense last week had a MUCH better game than Laviano. Not one or two. 10 other QBs.
Seriously, no wonder you have kyle in your name, you're as stubborn as he is.
Give it a rest, S-KYLE-R
Laviano is not good. But I fear that RU might be having one of its perennial QB problems, which is that none of them is good.
That could be true. But we'll never know as Flood refuses to play anyone else.
Totally agree with you Al. This could be one of your best and most logical posts. Short snd simple but right on target.
At least give someone else some meaningful playing time during the game. Especially if you are down by 14+ points and appear to have lost some rhythm. The same old story we see every week makes one wonder how things go at practice when some players can begin to lose their enthusiasm and go thru the motions because they know that regardless of the score they are not going to see the girls except ftom the bench. This is the part that hurts to see. Same players, same formations, same 1-0 mantra and same results.
I look at Indiana which doesn't have a good record but at least they seem to be in the games and playing some good offensive football and I would say their players are not any better than ours but you can see some growth there or at least some hope.
At least give someone else some meaningful playing time during the game. Especially if you are down by 14+ points and appear to have lost some rhythm. The same old story we see every week makes one wonder how things go at practice when some players can begin to lose their enthusiasm and go thru the motions because they know that regardless of the score they are not going to see the girls except ftom the bench. This is the part that hurts to see. Same players, same formations, same 1-0 mantra and same results.
I look at Indiana which doesn't have a good record but at least they seem to be in the games and playing some good offensive football and I would say their players are not any better than ours but you can see some growth there or at least some hope.
Agree on both the point about making a change to see if they can jumpstart the offense and about Indiana as well. They have been competitive and took Michigan to double OT unlike our blowout loss that was over by halftime.
Anybody else wonder why Flood answers questions about the game with lines like "we will have to review the tape" but automatically declares Laviano as the starting QB?
Interesting disconnect there I think.
Interesting disconnect there I think.
Let's try it from another angle. I don't know if Rettig is better than Laviano (would like to find out, but I don't know for sure). But, sweet Jesus, is it fair to Laviano to allow him to have his head handed to him week in, week out? The O-line is not a strength for sure, but if you think this kind of ABUSE absorbed by a quarterback is HELPFUL to his development, you're nuts. Psyche plays a part in sports, after a certain amount of non-success, doubt begins to creep in; you start thinking more than playing.
Like anyone else, I don't KNOW if Rettig is better, but I know that it is unfair to let ANY quarterback suffer through the season like Laviano has had to.
And the constant in the equation is Flood. He is too stubborn to try something, ANYTHING, else, but he also doesn't see how allowing a QB to take constant punishment is hampering (not helping) his development. The big "Screw you" to the RU faithful, "I know better than you, so I'm not going to change;" and not knowing what it is he doesn't know.
We deserve better.
And Slyker's defense of "well everyone plays bad against those defenses," is BS. I do not strive to be just better than the worst. If we were COMPETITIVE in our losses that is one thing, but we weren't. Maryland is (maybe was) listed as a game we should win, but they played a hell of a lot better against common opponents. I know transitive properties don't work so well in CFB, but when it's EVERY team, there's likely something to it. LOL.
Like anyone else, I don't KNOW if Rettig is better, but I know that it is unfair to let ANY quarterback suffer through the season like Laviano has had to.
And the constant in the equation is Flood. He is too stubborn to try something, ANYTHING, else, but he also doesn't see how allowing a QB to take constant punishment is hampering (not helping) his development. The big "Screw you" to the RU faithful, "I know better than you, so I'm not going to change;" and not knowing what it is he doesn't know.
We deserve better.
And Slyker's defense of "well everyone plays bad against those defenses," is BS. I do not strive to be just better than the worst. If we were COMPETITIVE in our losses that is one thing, but we weren't. Maryland is (maybe was) listed as a game we should win, but they played a hell of a lot better against common opponents. I know transitive properties don't work so well in CFB, but when it's EVERY team, there's likely something to it. LOL.
Skyler is clearly a troll. Stop feeding him.
My assumption is that he's a major anti-Flood poster who has an alt that he's using to troll the board - letting everyone else make the anti-Flood comments instead of himself. It's just gotten boring at this point, though.
My assumption is that he's a major anti-Flood poster who has an alt that he's using to troll the board - letting everyone else make the anti-Flood comments instead of himself. It's just gotten boring at this point, though.
Whether he believes it or not, KF is politically stupid to be so inflexible. We saw it with Nova, and it's one of those things that drives the fan base crazy. Just put Rettig in in one of those losing games. He needs experience too, and it would sooth a disgruntled fan base.
I have gone from a KF supporter to … well, I'm just sick and tired of being sick and tired.
I have gone from a KF supporter to … well, I'm just sick and tired of being sick and tired.
It's just great and refreshing to see Coach Flood "stick to his guns" and refuse to bow under any pressure whatsoever.
We should all be so thankful in this day and age of people who can't be relied upon that Coach Flood is someone who doesn't waiver!
That being said, it is sadly apparent that Coach Flood is also unable to inspire any confidence or discipline. He also may (depending upon the
outcome of on-going further investigations) have a serious problem with being truthful and accurate.
The negatives outweigh the positives in this situation - Coach Flood should do the right thing by Rutgers and resign, saving the University and the
tax payers of New Jersey the cost of having to buyout his contract.
Go Knights!
We should all be so thankful in this day and age of people who can't be relied upon that Coach Flood is someone who doesn't waiver!
That being said, it is sadly apparent that Coach Flood is also unable to inspire any confidence or discipline. He also may (depending upon the
outcome of on-going further investigations) have a serious problem with being truthful and accurate.
The negatives outweigh the positives in this situation - Coach Flood should do the right thing by Rutgers and resign, saving the University and the
tax payers of New Jersey the cost of having to buyout his contract.
Go Knights!
There was so many chances to put in Rettig , in all year long,
Flood acts like he doesn't want the completion, for some
reason he is afraid Rettig will outplay Laviano, and make him
look bad. But he is most certainly making himself look really
bad. I have seen QB competions before, many times, but
this does not resemble a completion. Not at all. Flood acts
like Rettig was the one doing the illegal drinking, and he
is questioning his leadership abilities.
Flood acts like he doesn't want the completion, for some
reason he is afraid Rettig will outplay Laviano, and make him
look bad. But he is most certainly making himself look really
bad. I have seen QB competions before, many times, but
this does not resemble a completion. Not at all. Flood acts
like Rettig was the one doing the illegal drinking, and he
is questioning his leadership abilities.
If Rettig ever starts a game and throws for 400 and 5 tds, the drumbeat to fire Flood would be deafening. Hell, the drumbeat is deafening now after people saw him play for a half. The longer Rettig stays on the bench, the more legendary he becomes. This debate is becoming tiring. The only way Laviano comes out in a game that's still competitive is if he gets knocked unconscious.
Don't worry, the OLine seems to be working on it. Maybe they're on the #freerettig bandwagon, too.
'Ya know, I'm being completely serious when I say I thought you were posting this as a spot-on description of the psychological make-up of Kyle Flood.
The more time that passes, the more statements he makes, the more inflexible he shows himself to be, (almost as if he believes himself to be infallible), the more I believe this man has some kind of deep-seated emotional issues going on. There really is something a little bit "out there" about him.
Nice how you have no problem blaming the offensive line but you draw a line when it comes to the QB. Time to get your nose cleaned up... brown is not your color.
Laviano's performance, real or imagined is at this juncture, besides the point. If for no other reason, then Flood needs to appear to be willing to exhaust all options and to give his back-up playing experience going into next year, he needs to start Rettig.
You guys are all making the assumptions that Rettig is equal or better than Laviano OR Rettig deserves to play based on what and how he is doing at practice.
Most likely Flood is in the wrong here and he is being stubborn and is afraid to be wrong. There is a chance here that Rettig is much worse OR doesn't deserve to play. Only those that see practices know.
Not acknowledging poor performances being influenced by the amount of times blitzes weren't picked up isn't fair.
This is coming from a guy who wanted to see Rettig start the 2nd half.
Most likely Flood is in the wrong here and he is being stubborn and is afraid to be wrong. There is a chance here that Rettig is much worse OR doesn't deserve to play. Only those that see practices know.
Not acknowledging poor performances being influenced by the amount of times blitzes weren't picked up isn't fair.
This is coming from a guy who wanted to see Rettig start the 2nd half.
I really believe this has to be the case. It's one thing if Laviano struggles in one game or even two. When your starting QB struggles in about half of the games played -- with absolute no points put on the board -- you have numerous chances to throw the back up in and see if anything changes. Of course there's a chance nothing will change -- maybe even a good one. Maybe Laviano really is heads and shoulders above Rettig in terms of preparation and ability.
The question is why wouldn't you at least prove it to the fanbase and have Rettig start the second half of a game in which RU is being shut out. Does anyone really think we could do worse than we've seen in some of these games? If we're down 21 or 28 points and we haven't even come closing to scoring, I can't imagine doing worse.
I have been painfully admitting this off and on, mostly on :angry:, for many years. Maybe we are not a good team right now for a number of reasons and if we don't have a Harbaugh in our future it may remain this way until ????
It was provided as a statement, not to prove a point
And based on what the High school football coach stated on the thread he started today... based on what he has seen in the many RU practices he has witnessed, there are clear shortcomings with Rettig and justification for naming the other player the starter.
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