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I mean who knows but it does seem like the Oregon option is a hard one to go back to the way this has dragged out.

From the article:
Last week, per a source, Knight signed off on a 10-year, $85 million extension that was offered by the University of Oregon to football coach Mario Cristobal. Year No. 1 would double Cristobal’s base salary and put it in excess of $7 million a year. It escalated from there and was easily the most lucrative deal ever offered to a football coach in Eugene.

Phil and Penny have subsidized a number of powerful football-related projects at UO over the years. They’ve built buildings, expanded Autzen Stadium, helped increase the recruiting footprint and even pitched in when Cristobal said he needed to retain assistants.
However, by kickoff there was trouble.

Cristobal didn’t sign Oregon’s contract extension before the title game. He instead made plans to talk with his agent the following day. Then, his team got blown off the field by the Utes: 38-10. The Ducks’ coach took the loss hard. He spoke in the post-game news conference for only six minutes. Then, on Saturday Cristobal boarded the private plane owned by long-time Oregon booster Ed Maletis and embarked on a whirlwind recruiting trip that would include multiple states, more than 25 recruits and span 14 days.
Cristobal may be a few hours away from ending two days of wild speculation. He may be poised to take the head coach job at Miami. Or he may be scrambling back to Eugene to try and salvage a clunky couple of days and a booster relationship that appears to be teetering. Right now I’m not sure what Cristobal has left to come back to at Oregon because I suspect he may have lost the only donor he ever needed.

That 10-year contract extension?

“It was pulled off the table when Mario didn’t sign it and got on the plane,” said a source close to the situation.

Athletic department officials at Oregon and Cristobal’s representatives would not confirm that detail. It may be a matter of semantics (did he turn it down or was it pulled when he didn’t sign it?) Knight isn’t speaking, either. But those who know the booster well tell me he doesn’t like to be played and doesn’t appreciate those who view the job of head football coach in Eugene as a stepping stone.

It doesn’t appear that Oregon wants to be used a second time. Either that or the Ducks expected Cristobal to fall over and kick his feet at the ceiling at the thought of a decade-long extension and when he didn’t they were annoyed. Knight couldn’t have been thrilled with the no-show performance on the field by Oregon vs. Utah, either.


 
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Walt Bell is a solid hire for OC. He flamed out at UMass. But another former UMass HC with a lot more experience, Mark Whipple, has done a great job at Pitt.

Had to post the image from one of those tweets. It seems unseemly to be taking profits from Miami's Health in the middle of a pandemic to fund a college football team? If that's what that means, or unless they are just referring to the boosters that work at Miami's UHealth, but that begs another question- should people working for hospitals be making 10's of millions of dollars to give to a football team?
It's a good thing we had health care reform because otherwise, these systems would be making billions of dollars and not hundreds of millions of dollars.
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What is Miami UHealth, and how exactly has it become such a $ printing press for them? It appears to be funding the Miami athletics program now.
 
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You know if I'm Oregon and they lose Cristobal, which I'm not so sure is a bad thing given what they're willing to pay him, I'd go for Josh Heupel or Jeff Lebby.

There is talk about bringing Chip Kelly back but I don't know that he's got his fastball anymore. I did when UCLA hired him, I can't say that I feel that now. He's been stubborn with his DC too. Should've let him go.

I say find the next Chip Kelly with super high speed offense. It'll be somewhat different from being more physical like Cristobal tried to instill but it got them far the last time with Kelly. Heupel has been out west for a little bit of his career but I don't think Lebby has. But you know Chip hadn't coached out there either til about a 2 years before he became HC.
 
Why does a school in Virginia and a coach In Pennsylvania meet in Vegas?
Guess the guy who pays DC position lives there?
 
Why does a school in Virginia and a coach In Pennsylvania meet in Vegas?
Guess the guy who pays DC position lives there?
Comments in the tweet say it's college football hall of fame induction week. I guess the ceremony is in Vegas and he's part of the 2020 class. COVID might have delayed it and they're doing 2 classes this year.
 
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I mean who knows but it does seem like the Oregon option is a hard one to go back to the way this has dragged out.

From the article:
Last week, per a source, Knight signed off on a 10-year, $85 million extension that was offered by the University of Oregon to football coach Mario Cristobal. Year No. 1 would double Cristobal’s base salary and put it in excess of $7 million a year. It escalated from there and was easily the most lucrative deal ever offered to a football coach in Eugene.

Phil and Penny have subsidized a number of powerful football-related projects at UO over the years. They’ve built buildings, expanded Autzen Stadium, helped increase the recruiting footprint and even pitched in when Cristobal said he needed to retain assistants.
However, by kickoff there was trouble.

Cristobal didn’t sign Oregon’s contract extension before the title game. He instead made plans to talk with his agent the following day. Then, his team got blown off the field by the Utes: 38-10. The Ducks’ coach took the loss hard. He spoke in the post-game news conference for only six minutes. Then, on Saturday Cristobal boarded the private plane owned by long-time Oregon booster Ed Maletis and embarked on a whirlwind recruiting trip that would include multiple states, more than 25 recruits and span 14 days.
Cristobal may be a few hours away from ending two days of wild speculation. He may be poised to take the head coach job at Miami. Or he may be scrambling back to Eugene to try and salvage a clunky couple of days and a booster relationship that appears to be teetering. Right now I’m not sure what Cristobal has left to come back to at Oregon because I suspect he may have lost the only donor he ever needed.

That 10-year contract extension?

“It was pulled off the table when Mario didn’t sign it and got on the plane,” said a source close to the situation.

Athletic department officials at Oregon and Cristobal’s representatives would not confirm that detail. It may be a matter of semantics (did he turn it down or was it pulled when he didn’t sign it?) Knight isn’t speaking, either. But those who know the booster well tell me he doesn’t like to be played and doesn’t appreciate those who view the job of head football coach in Eugene as a stepping stone.

It doesn’t appear that Oregon wants to be used a second time. Either that or the Ducks expected Cristobal to fall over and kick his feet at the ceiling at the thought of a decade-long extension and when he didn’t they were annoyed. Knight couldn’t have been thrilled with the no-show performance on the field by Oregon vs. Utah, either.


Phil does not like to get played and doesn't like those who view the job in Eugene as a stepping stone-

But did either of these things happen? Mario played it close to the vest and even in the post game, it seemed he did not have an offer on the table from Miami. He went back to work and hit the recruiting trail. Sounds like he was keeping his options open.

Phil not talking to Mario? Phil should call them and say, "Penny for your thoughts." 😉

The Oregon gig seems a lot more stable than Miami. Yeah, Miami is close to home, and it sounds like there is a sick relative there, but with all that money he is making, that could fund a lot of plane rides to and from Florida to Oregon.

If the Knights want to spend their money elsewhere, there is a team in NJ that has their name on it that would gladly build the Phil and Penny Knight Football Fieldhouse named in their honor.
 
Lost in all this Mario drama is that Phil and Penny probably did not forget how Willie Taggart swooped in from Florida for year and then took the FSU gig before the bowl game and headed back to Florida. That did not work out so well for Willie, and he was fired after 2 years, and he has a losing record at FAU. Sometimes you never know, but Willie Taggart did not have an extensive body of work before he was hired by Oregon.

Surprised Florida did not wait for Mario before hiring Napier. If Mario is patient, the FSU gig should be open soon as Mike Norvell has a losing record after 2 seasons.
 
Lost in all this Mario drama is that Phil and Penny probably did not forget how Willie Taggart swooped in from Florida for year and then took the FSU gig before the bowl game and headed back to Florida. That did not work out so well for Willie, and he was fired after 2 years, and he has a losing record at FAU. Sometimes you never know, but Willie Taggart did not have an extensive body of work before he was hired by Oregon.

Surprised Florida did not wait for Mario before hiring Napier. If Mario is patient, the FSU gig should be open soon as Mike Norvell has a losing record after 2 seasons.
That was in the article..with regards to Taggart. They didn't like being used as leverage by him Taggart to go to FSU.

I think Florida got who they wanted and probably view Napier more positively than Cristobal and frankly I agree. Their contract numbers in Napier show that (this part I don't agree with lol as you know). I think his potential is better but he is in a harder job compared to the potential of Miami in the ACC. He's known to be top recruiting guy too and won't be a shrinking violet in recruiting wars by reports out there. Cristobal should dominate the ACC from Miami if he can recruit like everyone expects, it's the next step after. Can he hire the right coaches? He should've done it at Oregon but he didn't so can't say he will at Miami. Clemson looks like it could be on a step back at least with the loss of Venables and the way they performed this year. So it could be a opportunity for another school to step up and take the mantle but who?
 
I think the assistants should see if they can find landing spots elsewhere. Either Cristobal comes in and may get rid of you or Diaz stays and is on the shakiest of grounds. See if you can find something more secure.

 
Norvell should aim higher after missing on the Oklahoma job.
Norvell's name may have been out there as a candidate for the OU job but I'm not sure it was all that serious. A WSU level job I think might have been more realistic. CSU is probably a good step up within the MWC to get him to a P5 job and maybe even a big one if he does really well.
 
Lost in all this Mario drama is that Phil and Penny probably did not forget how Willie Taggart swooped in from Florida for year and then took the FSU gig before the bowl game and headed back to Florida. That did not work out so well for Willie, and he was fired after 2 years, and he has a losing record at FAU. Sometimes you never know, but Willie Taggart did not have an extensive body of work before he was hired by Oregon.

Surprised Florida did not wait for Mario before hiring Napier. If Mario is patient, the FSU gig should be open soon as Mike Norvell has a losing record after 2 seasons.
Napier spent time with Saban too and you can tell he's learned some stuff. Doesn't guarantee anything but he's not going to be as laid back as Mullen. I'm surprised he had 40 analysts at Louisiana...geez.

From the article:

Napier had close to 40 analysts at Louisiana-Lafayette and could end up with even more in Gainesville. In addition to a $7.5 million annual budget for 10 assistants, Napier got a $5 million pool to build a support staff that includes analysts.


 

If I’m Oregon I look at this guy or Heupel and maybe even Campbell.


Miami is the epitome of delusional.

From Diaz Yahoo article:

"Diaz, the son of a former Miami mayor, was given just three seasons with the Hurricanes before the school — which currently does not have an athletic director. . . "

"To get things turned around in 2020, Diaz hired Rhett Lashlee to run the offense and added D’Eriq King to play quarterback. It paid off as the Hurricanes moved into the top 10 amid an 8-1 start before closing the year with two losses.

King got hurt in the 2020 bowl game and then again early in 2021 as the team started 2-4. With King out, the Hurricanes pivoted to Tyler Van Dyke at quarterback. He had some early struggles, but he and the Miami offense put up big numbers as the season progressed."

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Tyler Van Dyke had a very solid freshman year. 2931 yards, 25 TDs, 6 INTs.

And let's look at their losses:

Alabama- can't count that against him.
Michigan State 38-17 (that's almost the same score RU lost by- we are as good as Miami!!!)-not a bad loss
Virginia 30-28
UNC 45-42 - really, no shame in losing by 3 points, but I guess so.
Florida State 31-28. Thou shalt not lose to Florida State in a down year?

Seriously, WTF with Miami fans and boosters? Three losses by 2-3 points each. Second place in the ACC Coastal. Three years into his tenure with his best QB out for the year gets the Mayor's son fired.

Was there something else Diaz did wrong?

Interesting comment by a reader under the story about Cristobal:

"Great recruiter, terrible coach, both in preparation and game management. FSU took "Slick Willie" off Oregon's hands, and Cristobal is just like him. Talks great, recruits great, but absolutely cannot coach, and will not let assistants do their job. Good luck Miami. Just like Florida State, you will rue this decision. In the long run, you have done Oregon a favor. Now they don't have to pay anything to fire him and you get to pay them to buy out his contract. It's a win - lose situation. Oregon wins, you lose."
 
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To me turning down the Oregon money printing press is wild for a job in a lesser conference where every coach there this century had his career killed.

Are there any Miami commits RU is interested in is the bigger question lol
 
Miami is the epitome of delusional.

From Diaz Yahoo article:

"Diaz, the son of a former Miami mayor, was given just three seasons with the Hurricanes before the school — which currently does not have an athletic director. . . "

"To get things turned around in 2020, Diaz hired Rhett Lashlee to run the offense and added D’Eriq King to play quarterback. It paid off as the Hurricanes moved into the top 10 amid an 8-1 start before closing the year with two losses.

King got hurt in the 2020 bowl game and then again early in 2021 as the team started 2-4. With King out, the Hurricanes pivoted to Tyler Van Dyke at quarterback. He had some early struggles, but he and the Miami offense put up big numbers as the season progressed."

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Tyler Van Dyke had a very solid freshman year. 2931 yards, 25 TDs, 6 INTs.

And let's look at their losses:

Alabama- can't count that against him.
Michigan State 38-17 (that's almost the same score RU lost by- we are as good as Miami!!!)-not a bad loss
Virginia 30-28
UNC 45-42 - really, no shame in losing by 3 points, but I guess so.
Florida State 31-28. Thou shalt not lose to Florida State in a down year?

Seriously, WTF with Miami fans and boosters? Three losses by 2-3 points each. Second place in the ACC Coastal. Three years into his tenure with his best QB out for the year gets the Mayor's son fired.

Was there something else Diaz did wrong?

Interesting comment by a reader under the story about Cristobal:

"Great recruiter, terrible coach, both in preparation and game management. FSU took "Slick Willie" off Oregon's hands, and Cristobal is just like him. Talks great, recruits great, but absolutely cannot coach, and will not let assistants do their job. Good luck Miami. Just like Florida State, you will rue this decision. In the long run, you have done Oregon a favor. Now they don't have to pay anything to fire him and you get to pay them to buy out his contract. It's a win - lose situation. Oregon wins, you lose."
I’m in line with that comment maybe not to that extent but to the extent that yea he will amass talent but then what. He better hire good coordinators.

Joe Brady is my first call if I’m him and see if he can snag him being another south Florida native. Then see if he can recreate that LSU magic.
 
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To me turning down the Oregon money printing press is wild for a job in a lesser conference where every coach there this century had his career killed.

Are there any Miami commits RU is interested in is the bigger question lol
Well it’s home for him and his mother isn’t well and his wife’s family is near in Georgia. He’s getting paid as much and has promises of facility and support improvements.

To an outsider Oregon is better but for his personal situation Miami is equal.
 
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I’m in line with that comment maybe not to that extent but to the extent that yea he will amass talent but then what. He better hire good coordinators.

Joe Brady is my first call if I’m him and see if he can snag him being another south Florida native. Then see if he can recreate that LSU magic.
Knowing Miami, they'll fire him after 3 years, and hire Marcia and Jan Brady as HC and OC, and me and you as co-ADs. 😉 (We, and many others on this board make a lot more sense than some of these school administrators, presidents and ADS). If Pat Hobbs can go from lawyer to law professor to AD, then the sky is the limit. I have been a great virtual co-AD for years on these boards. 🙄
 
Miami is the epitome of delusional.

From Diaz Yahoo article:

"Diaz, the son of a former Miami mayor, was given just three seasons with the Hurricanes before the school — which currently does not have an athletic director. . . "

"To get things turned around in 2020, Diaz hired Rhett Lashlee to run the offense and added D’Eriq King to play quarterback. It paid off as the Hurricanes moved into the top 10 amid an 8-1 start before closing the year with two losses.

King got hurt in the 2020 bowl game and then again early in 2021 as the team started 2-4. With King out, the Hurricanes pivoted to Tyler Van Dyke at quarterback. He had some early struggles, but he and the Miami offense put up big numbers as the season progressed."

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Tyler Van Dyke had a very solid freshman year. 2931 yards, 25 TDs, 6 INTs.

And let's look at their losses:

Alabama- can't count that against him.
Michigan State 38-17 (that's almost the same score RU lost by- we are as good as Miami!!!)-not a bad loss
Virginia 30-28
UNC 45-42 - really, no shame in losing by 3 points, but I guess so.
Florida State 31-28. Thou shalt not lose to Florida State in a down year?

Seriously, WTF with Miami fans and boosters? Three losses by 2-3 points each. Second place in the ACC Coastal. Three years into his tenure with his best QB out for the year gets the Mayor's son fired.

Was there something else Diaz did wrong?

Interesting comment by a reader under the story about Cristobal:

"Great recruiter, terrible coach, both in preparation and game management. FSU took "Slick Willie" off Oregon's hands, and Cristobal is just like him. Talks great, recruits great, but absolutely cannot coach, and will not let assistants do their job. Good luck Miami. Just like Florida State, you will rue this decision. In the long run, you have done Oregon a favor. Now they don't have to pay anything to fire him and you get to pay them to buy out his contract. It's a win - lose situation. Oregon wins, you lose."
Paves the way for Diaz to go back to his dream job at Temple that he skipped out on lol.
 
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Napier spent time with Saban too and you can tell he's learned some stuff. Doesn't guarantee anything but he's not going to be as laid back as Mullen. I'm surprised he had 40 analysts at Louisiana...geez.

From the article:

Napier had close to 40 analysts at Louisiana-Lafayette and could end up with even more in Gainesville. In addition to a $7.5 million annual budget for 10 assistants, Napier got a $5 million pool to build a support staff that includes analysts.


Napier is a better coach than Cristobol. Christobol great recruiter though.
 
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Well it’s home for him and his mother isn’t well and his wife’s family is near in Georgia. He’s getting paid as much and has promises of facility and support improvements.

To an outsider Oregon is better but for his personal situation Miami is equal.

All good arguments, but I'd be creeped out if boosters approached me talking about a sick relative. That said, I just wonder what happens if he gets canned after 3 years. Someone like Kelly is just going to retire given his age. Someone like Riley, if you look at who USC has canned over the years- Orgeron, Kiffen- you can be HC again. Miami, you look at Shannon, Golden, etc...it's an ugly path forward.
 
Wonder if Kelly might not try for Diaz as DC. He’s been up and down as DC in his career. First call I’d say Elko if he could pull him out of A&M but if not, Diaz might not be so bad.
 
Trade in one green for another? I feel like he’s happy at Baylor and it’s a slightly lower profile job than the flash of Nike. He’s a very low key introvert so don’t know if that would appeal to him.

If he did leave I’d just promote Jeff Grimes if I’m Baylor.

 
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Admit it- you are Adam Rittenburg! 😉 Aranda shills!
Yup you caught me lol.

The BYU coach is the logical choice really and he’s coached at Utah and Oregon State. I think BYU is like 5-0 against the PAC12 this year. He’s done well this year after losing Wilson and Grimes. You like to see that when people go the results stay the same. He likes to play physical just like Cristobal.

For some reason though feel like something is missing with him, not sure what. I think he’d be a good hire but don’t know if he’d take them to championship level. Maybe he could. I suppose I’m partially mesmerized by the offenses of others.
 
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To me turning down the Oregon money printing press is wild for a job in a lesser conference where every coach there this century had his career killed.

Are there any Miami commits RU is interested in is the bigger question lol
From an article in the Athletic:
The facilities are getting even better
In October, Oregon announced plans for a new 170,000-square-foot indoor practice facility. It’ll include an expanded weight room and be ready by 2024.

The Ducks have long had among the best facilities in the nation. They helped pioneer the facilities arms race. In case you thought they might fall behind the competition, that isn’t happening.
 
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Yup you caught me lol.

The BYU coach is the logical choice really and he’s coached at Utah and Oregon State. I think BYU is like 5-0 against the PAC12 this year. He’s done well this year after losing Wilson and Grimes. You like to see that when people go the results stay the same. He likes to play physical just like Cristobal.

For some reason though feel like something is missing with him, not sure what. I think he’d be a good hire but don’t know if he’d take them to championship level. Maybe he could. I suppose I’m partially mesmerized by the offenses of others.
No clue if he’d ever leave Utah (kind of doubt he would) but the other Utah coach Kyle Whittingham would be a good one.
 
From an article in the Athletic:
The facilities are getting even better
In October, Oregon announced plans for a new 170,000-square-foot indoor practice facility. It’ll include an expanded weight room and be ready by 2024.

The Ducks have long had among the best facilities in the nation. They helped pioneer the facilities arms race. In case you thought they might fall behind the competition, that isn’t happening.


270 million for track
 
Napier spent time with Saban too and you can tell he's learned some stuff. Doesn't guarantee anything but he's not going to be as laid back as Mullen. I'm surprised he had 40 analysts at Louisiana...geez.

From the article:

Napier had close to 40 analysts at Louisiana-Lafayette and could end up with even more in Gainesville. In addition to a $7.5 million annual budget for 10 assistants, Napier got a $5 million pool to build a support staff that includes analysts.


Napier should use the $5M earmarked for analysts … give to players, instead.
 
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