Coaching Staff going through LEARNING CURVE

[rutgersal]

Much of the staff is learning as they go:

- HC is in Year 1
- OC is in Year 1 at IA
- OL Coach is in Year 1 at IA
- RB Coach is in Year 1 at IA
- WR Coach is in Year 1 at IA

Don't think a more experienced staff would have made a difference today as we were so outclassed. But its important to note the relative inexperience of the staff. I'm sure they'll be much better game 12, then they were Game 1.

 

[jup540]

But but but.... Everyone told me this team was better coached!!!

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Much of the staff is learning as they go:

- HC is in Year 1
- OC is in Year 1 at IA
- OL Coach is in Year 1 at IA
- RB Coach is in Year 1 at IA
- WR Coach is in Year 1 at IA

Don't think a more experienced staff would have made a difference today as we were so outclassed. But its important to note the relative inexperience of the staff. I'm sure they'll be much better game 12, then they were Game 1.

AL

This is one of your most realistic and pragmatic posts you have made relating to the Rutgers coaching staff .

You just have to hang in there and give the coaching staff time for continuity and development.

Assess how your team played today with how they do after the Maryland game.

What the young Rutgers coaching staff has demonstrated at this point in time is their ability to recruit.

No quick fix.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[RUinPinehurst]

Fan expectations were for an instant fix and immediate success. Yeah. Doesn't work that way. Temper those expectations. Look for week-to-week adjustments and improvements as they are the measure and the evidence that we have the right staff in place. I believe we do.

As for a "talent gap," let's not get caught up in that. The goal is always to recruit the best we can and then DEVELOP and optimize that talent. The staff will bring in the best it can, selling them on the system and moving the program forward. Keep perspective. And let's not be disrespectful of our student-athletes, who are working hard on and off the field.

Further, as for a "talent gap," look at what Appalachian State just (almost) did again, going on the road into a Top Ten opponent's stadium (Tennessee) and giving that opponent all it could handle. Comparing the "talent" on both teams via their "star" ratings out of high school, and there is no comparison. But compare their on-field performance as the result of coaching and development, and the talent "gap" is MIA.

 

[RU31trap]

Not sure if I sense sarcasm in Al's post. Because I remember reading several of his posts when Ash was hired and he expressed some concern. He and many others expressed very serious concern when the coordinators and assistants were hired. What's sad is all the political carnage this State went through to get Rutgers into the B10 and when it counted most they couldn't come up with a few more millions for a better HC and assistants. We're lucky Buffalo wasn't scheduled next week.

 

[RU4Real]

Fan expectations were for an instant fix and immediate success.

I strongly disagree.

I think expectations of overall performance are entirely reasonable.

But I also think that we had absolutely no expectation that we were going to see the same inept quarterback play from the same guy running the same offense.

It would be much more acceptable to see somebody new taking the snaps, making different mistakes. Working toward the future.

Laviano isn't going to learn anything at this point and he's not going to get better. Give the ball to somebody who will be a meaningful part of the team down the road. Let them learn, let them make mistakes. We'll be fine with that.

 

[RUinPinehurst]

I strongly disagree.

I think expectations of overall performance are entirely reasonable.

But I also think that we had absolutely no expectation that we were going to see the same inept quarterback play from the same guy running the same offense.

It would be much more acceptable to see somebody new taking the snaps, making different mistakes. Working toward the future.

Laviano isn't going to learn anything at this point and he's not going to get better. Give the ball to somebody who will be a meaningful part of the team down the road. Let them learn, let them make mistakes. We'll be fine with that.

Trust that Ash and his staff know some things about football and their players. Laviano showed them that he was the best of all possible options at that point in time. A fan's wishful thinking does not change that.

 

[ashokan]

Muller is a team captain that you expect to play well but he was so bad he got benched. He was getting thrashed yesterday - bowled right over on plays. Lou Saban would have got killed yesterday. Hamilton had one tackle (always double teamed). RU just doesn't have the horses and that's no surprise.

Different kind of days for two Rutgers' captains
http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...rent-kind-days-two-rutgers-captains/89849724/

 

[RU#1fan]

Staff is inexperienced in their roles ( our OC was a WR coach in the AAC last year....making $100k per year). They will learn and grow as the season goes on.

 

[REDRICH65]

So this is the best we could hire ?

 

[RUBand]

But but but.... Everyone told me this team was better coached!!!

I thought they were. They were just totally out-manned.

 

[RUBand]

So this is the best we could hire ?

?
I like this hire, am not going to trash a staff coaching a team of moderate talent in several positions, after one game against a very strong team.

 

[sct1111]

So this is the best we could hire ?

Yes.

 

[ru1869]

So this is the best we could hire ?

We clearly overpaid.

Millions of dollars sent did not equal results.

 

[miketd1]

As an Eagles fan, Chip Kelly himself can't operate a spread attack without at least a legit line and RB to base from.

 

[chrisru99]

We clearly overpaid.

Millions of dollars sent did not equal results.

Great hire so far as he is recruiting well but keep in mind coach Ash is the lowest paid coach in our division. If he fails next time we have to pay for a top coach with the full share of the BIG money we should use it to pay what it takes to win at this level.

 

[RUskoolie]

We clearly overpaid.

Millions of dollars sent did not equal results.

You can't be this stupid...

 

[MYHATINTHERING]

you guys are unbelievable.

we are in the Big, we are the big time now, we don't hire coaches to give them a learning curve and at this level, this salary, this day an age, results are expected

 

[chrisru99]

you guys are unbelievable.

we are in the Big, we are the big time now, we don't hire coaches to give them a learning curve and at this level, this salary, this day an age, results are expected

You know we pay our coach peanuts compared to the other schools in the BIG eastern division right? Coach Ash is doing a swell Job recruiting but his 2 million per year while a lot of money is last in the BIG eastern division. Why pay a first time head coach more than 2 per year? I don't know why but we surely did not break the bank hiring coach Ash and doubt our AD interviewed anyone that was above our price range.

 

[G- RUnit]

Lots of on the job training. Would have liked one assistant with experience. Already showed yesterday with awful special teams. Spent money on the Fridge and tangible results.

 

[RUBound]

No one coaching in the Big 10 should be hired to learn on the job. Not saying we have a right to expect instant results and start competing with wlite teams but no one in any profession should be hired for $2 mil per to learn on the job. Ash should be held to a higher standard than that and I am sure he hold himself and his staff to it as well.

 

[rufeelinit]

The staff on the offensive side is very young and limited with D-1 experience. This is a little surprising given that Ash brought in more experienced guys on the defensive side even though that is where his expertise lies. I don't want to get crazy after one game but I didi not see many positives that aligned with the coaches post game comments. Beyond Grant and maybe Hicks I saw very little on offense. I will give Mehringer time to figure out what might work with this talent but I don't really know what there was to lose by giving Gio and/or Allen a shot in the fourth quarter, although I believe our offensive issues go beyond Laviano. Specials were not good either and Okruch while older was in a non coaching position at OSU last year.

Remember Flood looked really good as an HC until Kent State came to town his first year.

 

[RU-ROCS]

Much of the staff is learning as they go:

- HC is in Year 1
- OC is in Year 1 at IA
- OL Coach is in Year 1 at IA
- RB Coach is in Year 1 at IA
- WR Coach is in Year 1 at IA

Don't think a more experienced staff would have made a difference today as we were so outclassed. But its important to note the relative inexperience of the staff. I'm sure they'll be much better game 12, then they were Game 1.

Al making sense! Who'd have thunk it?! ;)

 

[koleszar]

Remember Flood looked really good as an HC until Kent State came to town his first year.

Dude that schedule was Cream Puff U followed by Sister Mary's School of the blind and he still blew it.. This schedule we play #6, #7, #14 and #17 ranked teams in the 1st 6 weeks. Only a masochist could love a schedule like that with a 1st year coach implementing new O and D scheme's. Hell in over 25 years of watching college football it's the toughest 1st half schedule I've ever seen any team play. Flood would have looked like an incompetent asshole with a schedule like this one.

 

[rufeelinit]

Dude that schedule was Cream Puff U followed by Sister Mary's School of the blind and he still blew it.. This schedule we play #6, #7, #14 and #17 ranked teams in the 1st 6 weeks. Only a masochist could love a schedule like that with a 1st year coach implementing new O and D scheme's. Hell in over 25 years of watching college football it's the toughest 1st half schedule I've ever seen any team play. Flood would have looked like an incompetent asshole with a schedule like this one.

I understand. My point was that while I may have been underwhelmed with the performance on Saturday, we need to have a much longer body of work before drawing any real conclusions about this staff's ability on game day.

 

[ashokan]

Timely article in NYT

Want a National Title? Hire a Coach, Wait Three Years


"Enter Petersen, who had burnished his résumé with two undefeated, top-five seasons at Boise State, then of the midtier Western Athletic Conference...

Two full seasons into his tenure in Seattle, he acknowledged that the table had been set.

“The first year, on both sides, was culture shock,” he said in an interview this summer. “Not right or wrong. We had done things so long at Boise State a certain way, and it all worked; and they had done things a long way here, and it worked for them. So when you’re like: ‘O.K., we’re going to do this.’ ‘What?’ ‘What do you mean, what?’ It just takes a long time to get guys in belief and alignment.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/03/s...-three-years-huskies-chris-petersen.html?_r=0