I think this article undoubtedly answers the question…the article also talks about the Philadelphia Eagles HC Nick Sirianni who is from his hometown.
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Yes it does:
"But he hadn’t gotten a real chance to win the starting QB job at Rutgers. The coach who brought him in had been fired. They recruited over him."
"Caulcrick, who owns a staffing company in Detroit and does sideline reporting for Michigan State games, did not believe that Snyder was over his head in the Big Ten. He felt Cole wasn’t likely to get a true chance to showcase his talent at Rutgers."
“He and I had a chat and I told him, ‘If you want to just be on a team and say you played in the Big Ten, then stick with what you’re doing. But if your goal is to play college football at the Division I level, you have to figure it out."
“So, he made that decision to transfer,” Caulcick said, “and I think it was the best for him to get an opportunity to prove himself that he didn’t get at Rutgers.”
Rutgers' loss is Buffalo's gain.
I read the article. It states that the coach who recruited Snyder was fired, and that he was recruited over. Both true. It does not state he was pushed out. Can one draw that inference? I guess, but it is hardly conclusive.
One can just as easily infer that he simply decided it wasn't going to happen for him at RU, and left on his own.
I don’t believe he was pushed out either, according to the article it was his decision.
It says several times he was not given a chance to win the job. Of course, the coaches at Rutgers will say that is not true. But as soon as Gavin got here, Cole was the odd man out. And it is clear that at least Sean, perhaps guided by Greg, wanted the experienced hand of Noah to guide the offense. That's their choice based on their judgment.
28 passing attempts in the 2021 season is not giving a sufficient chance to demonstrate his abilities. Cole threw a TD pass against Ohio State. Evan Simon had the exact same number of pass attempts last year, and Gavin had 21 pass attempts.
Cole was smart to leave, and he is thriving. Cheers for him.
I bet handing Gavin practice reps and playing time that he didn’t earn probably didn’t sit well with Cole considering his work ethic…
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I think we are in agreement.
There is no question that Wimsatt was brought in to be the starter. If nothing else, his skillset is the better fit for the offense Gleeson wanted to run.
It is also apparent that if he so chose, Snyder could have remained a Scarlet Knight. And maybe he would have won the job. And maybe we'd have beaten Iowa or Nebraska, maybe both. And maybe Gleeson would still have his job.
Of course, one could apply the same hypotheticals if Wimsatt had not been injured.
If things were different, they'd be different.
There is no question that Wimsatt was brought in to be the starter. If nothing else, his skillset is the better fit for the offense Gleeson wanted to run.
It is also apparent that if he so chose, Snyder could have remained a Scarlet Knight. And maybe he would have won the job. And maybe we'd have beaten Iowa or Nebraska, maybe both. And maybe Gleeson would still have his job.
Of course, one could apply the same hypotheticals if Wimsatt had not been injured.
If things were different, they'd be different.
Did Kill really say that? Everything I had read was that the young QB that Kill raved about was Flacco, who was taking his mandatory redshirt transfer year when Kill was here.
If it has been said once, it has been said twice….poor QB Managment, You can’t put all your eggs in the Wimsatt basket, which a D1 head coach should know! Ash put all his eggs in the Art basket, but at least he brought in two transfers, which one ultimately got hurt and couldn’t play. Gleason/Schiano put all their eggs in the Noah/Gavin basket….so we will see if it ends differently for Schiano. After this season, we are going into year 4, time is not his friend!
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@Knight Shift is killing it in this thread. There's just nothing more to add.
Snyder saw the writing on the wall and left
Many major college back ups decide to leave when they see talent coming in passing them on the depth chart.
That's they way I see Snyder's decision to transfer and very few players and their parents will admit the players coming in that play he same position have more talent..
Cole went to a program where he could be the man, good for him.
Noah made himself the man at RU after being a bench player as a Cornhusker and Gavin
was brought in to run the show when he got accustom to playing college ball.
Leaving Cole to fight for third between Simon and Evan .
With an experienced hand at the helm and a newcomer expected to take over, Cole went home to play .
It was the right choice for him .
Many major college back ups decide to leave when they see talent coming in passing them on the depth chart.
That's they way I see Snyder's decision to transfer and very few players and their parents will admit the players coming in that play he same position have more talent..
Cole went to a program where he could be the man, good for him.
Noah made himself the man at RU after being a bench player as a Cornhusker and Gavin
was brought in to run the show when he got accustom to playing college ball.
Leaving Cole to fight for third between Simon and Evan .
With an experienced hand at the helm and a newcomer expected to take over, Cole went home to play .
It was the right choice for him .
My mom used to get rides with Otto Graham's brother. I was a teen-ager then. My mom told me the brother was very impressed that I had heard of Graham (and knew how outstanding he had been) even though Graham's career had ended when I was four years old.
He actually did surprising well against those teams…I agree he is where he should be, because he is finding success under the UB coaching staff.
I think too harsh of an assessment and that he could have been successful at RU. Buff is 4-3 with losses to Mary (5-2 with a 7 point loss to UM and 2 point loss to Purdue), CC 6-1 and Holy Cross 6-0. He was sacked 4 times at Mary and 5 times by CC so my guess he was running for his life in those games. I don't think he is a superstar but is average to good in important qb categories like smarts, running, arm strength, accuracy and touch. All our current qb's have at least one big negative in that regard and qb play continues to get us burned.
Agree with everything- and sorry to point this out to many, a good QB would have struggled this year and last with us. Let’s home we find a gameplay and some design to help our guys out.
Put Simon or Snyder behind a top B1G OL with an OC that has a real game plan and both would all of a sudden be at least average P5 QB’s…
There were multiple opportunities in 2019, 2020 and 2021 where we could have turned or given more snaps to Cole Snyder and start him once and not once did we under Campanile or Schiano when Langan was struggling at QB in 2019 or Vedral in 2020 or 2021
In 2019, we started 1-3, fired Chris Ash, last 8 games under Campanile were all Langan at QB outside of 1 or 2 snaps vs ILL, Langan lost a helmet or injury, and a few snaps vs Penn St last minute or two of the season. There were other opportunities in 2019 vs 2-2 MD that lost @Temple 17-20 and 0-59 Home to Penn St prior to our game, vs Liberty 44-34 win, vs 4-6 Mich St. or more snaps vs ILL without burning the redshirt. In 2020 when Vedral went down vs MD, they went with Simon and Langan. In 2021 when Vedral struggled, out of the backups Simon, Snyder and Langan, Snyder looked the most well rounded, capable QB vs 2nd/3rd teamer in a blowout losses, more mobile than Simon, better arm than Langan. We lost 7 of last 9 games, Vedral had 3 TDs, 6 Ints in those 9 B1G games, didn't throw for 100 Yds the last 4 games. I think the writing was on the wall that he was never going to get a fair shake here and why he transferred.
In 2019, we started 1-3, fired Chris Ash, last 8 games under Campanile were all Langan at QB outside of 1 or 2 snaps vs ILL, Langan lost a helmet or injury, and a few snaps vs Penn St last minute or two of the season. There were other opportunities in 2019 vs 2-2 MD that lost @Temple 17-20 and 0-59 Home to Penn St prior to our game, vs Liberty 44-34 win, vs 4-6 Mich St. or more snaps vs ILL without burning the redshirt. In 2020 when Vedral went down vs MD, they went with Simon and Langan. In 2021 when Vedral struggled, out of the backups Simon, Snyder and Langan, Snyder looked the most well rounded, capable QB vs 2nd/3rd teamer in a blowout losses, more mobile than Simon, better arm than Langan. We lost 7 of last 9 games, Vedral had 3 TDs, 6 Ints in those 9 B1G games, didn't throw for 100 Yds the last 4 games. I think the writing was on the wall that he was never going to get a fair shake here and why he transferred.
You have had some of the worst QB takes on this board. You thought DeVito sucked when he transferred to Illinois. How did that take work out? Sit down and shut up.
This is a very thoughtful and well-reasoned post.
Newsflash. Langan is not a QB except for the predictable run Johnny up the middle package.
I would be very disappointed in Nunz if Johnny saw any significant time at QB. What I would love to see is in a short yardage situation Johnny goes to the jump pass.
Agree. Was pointing out that throwing against low level schools is very very easy to remind everyone that Snyder is at the level he belongs at.
Algae was all over the field. Probably why it was so green.
Lol, remember when Buffalo torched Rutgers (EDIT-in 2018)? And Akron (EDIT- Kent State 2012) too.
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Rooted for Cole when he was here and I will continue to root for him at Buffalo.
Thanks for posting.
Funny how posters belittle the MAC and Buffalo in this thread, but then they tout Leopold's record at FCS and Buffalo as the work of Bear Bryant
What about it? Rutgers was basically a patriot league team in 2018. Buffalo got smoked by the only decent team they played that year.
You should watch the games…so you can talk intelligently!
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