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Agree. Was pointing out that throwing against low level schools is very very easy to remind everyone that Snyder is at the level he belongs at.
It is quite surprising to read posts on the thread implying only the Power5 produce quality players and high level competition, when every year Group of 5 teams beat Power 5 teams. In addition, many MAC/Group of 5 and FCS players get drafted every year and yes several NFL QB’s have come from the MAC including Roethlisberger. So as it has been said many times on this board that transferring to the Group of 5 is a step down….maybe it is actually a step up for many players who are trying to get an opportunity to play competitive football that will showcase their skills, while hoping to ultimately earn an opportunity to play on Sundays….
 
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Having trouble following the bickering in this thread. Can we all agree that RU has had significant issues in developing and/or selecting the right QB under various coaches AND sometimes players need to move on and flourish elsewhere. Its not different than anything else in life, not everyone meshes well or is fully recognized / appreciated by the people around them or who they may work with.
 
For the Cole Snyder fan club 😂. It will be interesting to see if Cole can lead UB to the MAC Championship game and a Bowl game this year. They are currently leading the MAC East with a 3-0 record. He is ranked the 38th QB in the Nation for passing yards, with almost 1,700 PY in 7-Games….he should have over 3,000 PY this season if he stays on pace…not too bad for his first year as QB1! This week they play the only undefeated MAC West team, Toledo Sat @ 1:00, they are saying this is a preview of the MAC Championship game this year….should be a great game with lots of passing from both teams.
 
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Here is a comparison of how bad our passing game has been.

Langan(2019-22) 1043yds, 8 TDs, 10 Ints, 10 rush TDs 1 rec. TD
Vedral(2020-22) 3240yds, 16TDs, 15 Ints, 4 rush TDs
Simon(2020-22) 854yds, 4TDs, 7 Ints
Wimsatt(2021-22) 164yds, 1TD, 4 Ints
Rutgers QBs 5301yds, 29 TDs, 36 Ints, 14 rushing TDs

Bailey Zappe(WKU 9-5 2021) 5967yds, 62TDs, 11 Ints, 1 rush TDs

7TD/1int vs Tenn St, 435yds 3/1 @Army(9-4), 365yds 3/0 vs Indiana(2-10), 488yds 3/0 @Mich St(11-2), 523yds 5/1 vs UTSA(12-2), 5/1 @ODU(6-7), 3/0 @FIU(1-11), 4/2 vs Charlotte(5-7), *281yds* (his low game) 4/0 vs MTSU(7-6), 5/1 @Rice(4-8), 6/2 vs FAU(5-7), 4/0 vs Marshall(7-6), 577yds 4/2 @UTSA12-2), 422yds 6/0 vs App St.(10-4)

4 years at Houston Baptist(2017-21) 10,004yds, 78TDs, 39INTs
1-10 (10gms) 1548yd 5/10, 1-10 (11gms) 2812yds 23/13,
5-7 (12gms) 3811yds 35/15, 1-3 (4 gms) 1833yds 15/1 vs N.Tx, Tx Tech, LT, EKU
 
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What about it? Rutgers was basically a patriot league team in 2018. Buffalo got smoked by the only decent team they played that year.
LOL. OK, pal. Since you went down "that" road?
That same year (2018) that Buffalo smoked Rutgers:
Buffalo beat Temple (7-1 in conference) who beat Maryland.
Buffalo beat Eastern Michigan, who beat Purdue.
Buffalo also beat Akron, who beat a Northwestern team who played in the B1G championship.

This year (2022).
Buffalo beat Eastern Michigan, who beat Arizona State (who beat #21 Washington).
Buffalo also beat Miami of Ohio, who beat Northwestern

So, you are probably going to come back with Cole Snyder did not do that against Maryland.

Here's a reminder from the small sample size of playing time he got at Rutgers:

 
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Here is a comparison of how bad our passing game has been.

Langan(2019-22) 1043yds, 8 TDs, 10 Ints, 10 rush TDs 1 rec. TD
Vedral(2020-22) 3240yds, 16TDs, 15 Ints, 4 rush TDs
Simon(2020-22) 854yds, 4TDs, 7 Ints
Wimsatt(2021-22) 164yds, 1TD, 4 Ints
Rutgers QBs 5301yds, 29 TDs, 36 Ints, 14 rushing TDs

Bailey Zappe(WKU 9-5 2021) 5967yds, 62TDs, 11 Ints, 1 rush TDs

7TD/1int vs Tenn St, 435yds 3/1 @Army(9-4), 365yds 3/0 vs Indiana(2-10), 488yds 3/0 @Mich St(11-2), 523yds 5/1 vs UTSA(12-2), 5/1 @ODU(6-7), 3/0 @FIU(1-11), 4/2 vs Charlotte(5-7), *281yds* (his low game) 4/0 vs MTSU(7-6), 5/1 @Rice(4-8), 6/2 vs FAU(5-7), 4/0 vs Marshall(7-6), 577yds 4/2 @UTSA12-2), 422yds 6/0 vs App St.(10-4)

4 years at Houston Baptist(2017-21) 10,004yds, 78TDs, 39INTs
Just curious, serious question….have we had 1-QB throw for over 1,000 yards per season in the last 5-years?
 
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Just curious, serious question….have we had 1-QB throw for over 1,000 yards in the last 5-years?
Since Gary Nova(2014),

2015 Laviano 2247yds, 16/12
2016 Rescigno 889yds, 5/5
2017 Kyle Bolin 711yds, 3/6
2018 Sitkowski 1158yds, 4/18
2019 Langan 840yds, 4/9
2020 Vedral 1253yds 9/8 (7 games)
2021 Vedral 1854yds, 7/7
2022 Simon 740yds, 4/6 (6 games)

I do think Simon has potential to be 3,000 yards guy in 12-13 games if they open up the offense a bit more by his Jr, Sr year even though they are high on the untapped potential of Wimsatt.
 
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Since Gary Nova(2014),

2015 Laviano 2247yds, 16/12
2016 Rescigno 889yds, 5/5
2017 Kyle Bolin 711yds, 3/6
2018 Sitkowski 1158yds, 4/18
2019 Langan 840yd, 4/9
2020 Vedral 1253yds 9/8 (9 games)
2021 Vedral 1854yds, 7/7
2022 Simon 740yds, 4/6 (6 games)

I do think Simon has potential to be 3,000 yards guy in 12-13 games if they open up the offense a bit more by his Jr, Sr year even though they are high on the untapped potential of Wimsatt.
Thank you for the info….you are the stat king 🙌
 
It is quite surprising to read posts on the thread implying only the Power5 produce quality players and high level competition, when every year Group of 5 teams beat Power 5 teams. In addition, many MAC/Group of 5 and FCS players get drafted every year and yes several NFL QB’s have come from the MAC including Roethlisberger. So as it has been said many times on this board that transferring to the Group of 5 is a step down….maybe it is actually a step up for many players who are trying to get an opportunity to play competitive football that will showcase their skills, while hoping to ultimately earn an opportunity to play on Sundays….
 
Couldn't agree more Boomer..Just look at a couple QBs that played for Delaware...Scott Brunner, Rich Gannon (NFL MVP/4 Pro Bowls/Super Bowl runner up) and Joe Flacco (Super Bowl Champ and MVP) all played 1-AA Football for University of Delaware. We haven't had a QB in History that has ever sniffed the last 2 guys.

Division 1-AA Jerry Rice from Mississippi Valley State might be the the best NFL receiver of All -Time

Division 1-AA Walter Payton from Jackson State might be the best NFL RB of All-Time
 
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LOL. OK, pal. Since you went down "that" road?
That same year (2018) that Buffalo smoked Rutgers:
Buffalo beat Temple (7-1 in conference) who beat Maryland.
Buffalo beat Eastern Michigan, who beat Purdue.
Buffalo also beat Akron, who beat a Northwestern team who played in the B1G championship.

This year (2022).
Buffalo beat Eastern Michigan, who beat Arizona State (who beat #21 Washington).
Buffalo also beat Miami of Ohio, who beat Northwestern

So, you are probably going to come back with Cole Snyder did not do that against Maryland.

Here's a reminder from the small sample size of playing time he got at Rutgers:

Rutgers just beat Indiana who beat #18/20 Illinois.

I guess that means RU is now a Top 25 team.

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Cole Snyder led Buffalo from being down 20-7 at the half to a 34-27 victory, to keep Buffalo undefeated in MAC play.

22/39 for 245 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 1 rushing TD.

Did you watch the game? I bet Buffalo +7 and had the game on my iPad while Rutgers played.

Snyder was horrendous for most of the game. He was the reason they were down 20-7 with the 7 points being a defensive touchdown. He missed open throws, had no pocket presence, and overall was a disaster.

Toledo got complacent and played a prevent type defense for the entire 4th quarter. Buffalos defense stepped up in the second half and was the reason for the comeback, not the QB play. To Snyder’s credit he took what the defense was giving him and they got the win but if you watched the game, you wouldn’t be bragging about the performance. He might be better than Simon and Vedral but our record wouldn’t be any different with him here.
 
Did you watch the game? I bet Buffalo +7 and had the game on my iPad while Rutgers played.

Snyder was horrendous for most of the game. He was the reason they were down 20-7 with the 7 points being a defensive touchdown. He missed open throws, had no pocket presence, and overall was a disaster.

Toledo got complacent and played a prevent type defense for the entire 4th quarter. Buffalos defense stepped up in the second half and was the reason for the comeback, not the QB play. To Snyder’s credit he took what the defense was giving him and they got the win but if you watched the game, you wouldn’t be bragging about the performance. He might be better than Simon and Vedral but our record wouldn’t be any different with him here.
I did not watch, but will. He was the SOLE reason they were down? Doubt it was all on him, but that's your take. Seems it took the offense a while to get into rhythm. It happens. But does Cole get any credit for turning it around and the offensive explosion that led to Buffalo winning the game, or does he only get sacked for the first half failure?

Maybe it was due to:

"players not in pads for UB during warmups included center Sidney Walker (right arm in sling), offensive lineman Dom Polizzi."


"But late in the third quarter, the offense discovered its rhythm, with 122 yards in the third quarter, and then accrued 177 yards in the fourth quarter – 75 rushing yards and 102 passing yards. Four of UB’s five fourth-quarter drives finished with scoring plays, and the Bulls finished with 398 yards on 77 plays.

That productivity, the Bulls said, came from a few adjustments: getting the ball to players who can make plays. Focusing on executing plays. Taking one play at a time – not looking one or two or three plays ahead or not dwelling on previous plays.
“There were opportunities to make plays, and I think whoever it was, me included, just was a little bit off,” said Snyder, who was 22 for 39 passing for 245 yards and a touchdown. “We made some key adjustments when we came into halftime and really stuck with what was working. We just did a great job of just continuing to fight, continuing to pound the rock and we knew that things would turn our way.” "

 
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I did not watch, but will. He was the SOLE reason they were down? Doubt it was all on him, but that's your take. Seems it took the offense a while to get into rhythm. It happens. But does Cole get any credit for turning it around and the offensive explosion that led to Buffalo winning the game, or does he only get sacked for the first half failure?

Maybe it was due to:

"players not in pads for UB during warmups included center Sidney Walker (right arm in sling), offensive lineman Dom Polizzi."


"But late in the third quarter, the offense discovered its rhythm, with 122 yards in the third quarter, and then accrued 177 yards in the fourth quarter – 75 rushing yards and 102 passing yards. Four of UB’s five fourth-quarter drives finished with scoring plays, and the Bulls finished with 398 yards on 77 plays.

That productivity, the Bulls said, came from a few adjustments: getting the ball to players who can make plays. Focusing on executing plays. Taking one play at a time – not looking one or two or three plays ahead or not dwelling on previous plays.
“There were opportunities to make plays, and I think whoever it was, me included, just was a little bit off,” said Snyder, who was 22 for 39 passing for 245 yards and a touchdown. “We made some key adjustments when we came into halftime and really stuck with what was working. We just did a great job of just continuing to fight, continuing to pound the rock and we knew that things would turn our way.” "

What an emotional win for the coach and players….brought the coach to tears!

 
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I did not watch, but will. He was the SOLE reason they were down? Doubt it was all on him, but that's your take. Seems it took the offense a while to get into rhythm. It happens. But does Cole get any credit for turning it around and the offensive explosion that led to Buffalo winning the game, or does he only get sacked for the first half failure?

Maybe it was due to:

"players not in pads for UB during warmups included center Sidney Walker (right arm in sling), offensive lineman Dom Polizzi."


"But late in the third quarter, the offense discovered its rhythm, with 122 yards in the third quarter, and then accrued 177 yards in the fourth quarter – 75 rushing yards and 102 passing yards. Four of UB’s five fourth-quarter drives finished with scoring plays, and the Bulls finished with 398 yards on 77 plays.

That productivity, the Bulls said, came from a few adjustments: getting the ball to players who can make plays. Focusing on executing plays. Taking one play at a time – not looking one or two or three plays ahead or not dwelling on previous plays.
“There were opportunities to make plays, and I think whoever it was, me included, just was a little bit off,” said Snyder, who was 22 for 39 passing for 245 yards and a touchdown. “We made some key adjustments when we came into halftime and really stuck with what was working. We just did a great job of just continuing to fight, continuing to pound the rock and we knew that things would turn our way.” "

 
Nope. A lot of transfers.

Kansas has a lot of transfers too, actually quite a few teams do but I don’t know everyone who is contributing or not because I don’t pay attention to these teams close enough.

Leipold left behind a winning program say like Kelly at ND (see how Freeman isn’t living up to it) while Leipold walked into a moribund program of a decade. IMO there’s a difference in saying winning with the previous coaches players in those two kinds of situations.
 
Kansas has a lot of transfers too, actually quite a few teams do but I don’t know everyone who is contributing or not because I don’t pay attention to these teams close enough.

Leipold left behind a winning program say like Kelly at ND (see how Freeman isn’t living up to it) while Leipold walked into a moribund program of a decade. IMO there’s a difference in saying winning with the previous coaches players in those two kinds of situations.
Leopoldo and his coaching staff actually took a lot of the players with them….so the house was not full when the new Coach arrived after Spring game. I think they have a crazy number of transfers playing…like 24
 
Kansas has a lot of transfers too, actually quite a few teams do but I don’t know everyone who is contributing or not because I don’t pay attention to these teams close enough.

Leipold left behind a winning program say like Kelly at ND (see how Freeman isn’t living up to it) while Leipold walked into a moribund program of a decade. IMO there’s a difference in saying winning with the previous coaches players in those two kinds of situations.
IDK about that winning program. Not sure what happened in Maurice Linguist's first year as HC of Buffalo, but they went 4-8/2-6.

Looking at their Offensive playmakers this year, 3 transfers, 1 freshman- this has nothing to do with Leipold:

Snyder- Transfer
RB Mike Washington- Freshman (2 star recruit)
WR Justin Marshall (Louisville Transfer)
WR Qian Williams (EMU Transfer)
 
Leopoldo and his coaching staff actually took a lot of the players with them….so the house was not full when the new Coach arrived after Spring game. I think they have a crazy number of transfers playing…like 24
I think even Kansas had 18-20. I didn’t get the impression many were from Buffalo but not sure.

SMU had like 18 a couple years ago when Dykes was there. It’s not so unusual these days to have double digits in a given year but high teens or 20s is quite a bit.
 
I think even Kansas had 18-20. I didn’t get the impression many were from Buffalo but not sure.

SMU had like 18 a couple years ago when Dykes was there. It’s not so unusual these days to have double digits in a given year but high teens or 20s is quite a bit.
Did Dykes take any SMU players with him to TCU, and did he leverage the portal?
 
Did Dykes take any SMU players with him to TCU, and did he leverage the portal?
Don’t know. Duggan was there already and he was the backup to start the season. Chandler Morris was the starter and he got hurt. I have read articles that said there was some talent there but they weren’t performing for Patterson but are having more fun with Dykes and his offense.
 
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IDK about that winning program. Not sure what happened in Maurice Linguist's first year as HC of Buffalo, but they went 4-8/2-6.

Looking at their Offensive playmakers this year, 3 transfers, 1 freshman- this has nothing to do with Leipold:

Snyder- Transfer
RB Mike Washington- Freshman (2 star recruit)
WR Justin Marshall (Louisville Transfer)
WR Qian Williams (EMU Transfer)
I think their OL was mostly new players too.
 
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Did you watch the game? I bet Buffalo +7 and had the game on my iPad while Rutgers played.

Snyder was horrendous for most of the game. He was the reason they were down 20-7 with the 7 points being a defensive touchdown. He missed open throws, had no pocket presence, and overall was a disaster.

Toledo got complacent and played a prevent type defense for the entire 4th quarter. Buffalos defense stepped up in the second half and was the reason for the comeback, not the QB play. To Snyder’s credit he took what the defense was giving him and they got the win but if you watched the game, you wouldn’t be bragging about the performance. He might be better than Simon and Vedral but our record wouldn’t be any different with him here.
Glad to see Cole stepped up and won you money this week…great bet! He moved up to #28 in the National Ranking for PY this week…
 
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Cole doing well reminds me of the Tom Flacco supporters after he left the program..
He did great at Towson, so became the one that got away to a ;lot of RU fans not satisfied with RU QB play
Let Evan drop down and do well, he'll be treated like a star in the making that was denied his chance.
 
Cole doing well reminds me of the Tom Flacco supporters after he left the program..
He did great at Towson, so became the one that got away to a ;lot of RU fans not satisfied with RU QB play
Let Evan drop down and do well, he'll be treated like a star in the making that was denied his chance.
Cole is still playing FBS football, so I wouldn’t consider that a level down and there is nothing wrong with rooting for a player that represented RU well for 3-Years and who has always spoke well of his time at Rutgers. Did the coaches make a mistake with this one, it is looking that way….but time will tell how big of miss it was. At this point we can both root for Cole’s success as a Rutger’s Alumni and that Schiano brings in a high level transfer this year to bridge the time needed to development the current QB room.
 
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Cole doing well reminds me of the Tom Flacco supporters after he left the program..
He did great at Towson, so became the one that got away to a ;lot of RU fans not satisfied with RU QB play
Let Evan drop down and do well, he'll be treated like a star in the making that was denied his chance.
Yeah, except Towson is FCS. Buffalo is FBS.
Buffalo and other MAC teams beat B1G teams. That's a difference in level of play.
 
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