Day 1 - Back to Work

[Greene Rice FIG]

I'd be curious to know how often those two played together. Seemed like they preferred the 4-out offense with one on the floor at a time.

Haarms played a lot down the stretch and Williams barely played. I'd think if I am Haarms I am doing nothing if the offseason except combing my hair and jacking up 3 pointers. He was 7-25 last year.

Your point is well taken...you may only have 10 MPG where they are both on the floor AND Williams would have to stay with yeboah on the other end.

 

[Unionst]

I noticed that. As a glass half empty guy I was concerned that our 4 is 6’5’’

You sure have self-knowledge.

 

[Scangg]

I think Paul is a little closer to the camera but either way I don't see EO as being significantly taller than Yeboah or really taller at all. EO always looked shorter than listed in pics and clips next to teammates as well

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Looking at the three point attempts specifically....

Last season 3PA per 40 min (and avg min/g)
7.1 - Kiss (18.1 min)
6.7 - Baker (34.0)
6.3 - Harper (22.3)
5.9 - Thiam (17.0)
4.7 - McConnell (15.5)
3.8 - Mathis (22.9)
2.2 - Omoruyi (29.2)

This season, plugging in the 3PA per 40 from Young/Yeboah's last seasons:
8.2 - Yeboah
7.4 - Young
7.1 - Kiss
6.7 - Baker
6.3 - Harper
4.7 - McConnell
3.8 - Mathis
?? - Mulcahy

Just on the surface, we're swapping Omoruyi and Thiam for Yeboah and Young. I know this is highly reductionist..... but if we plug and play with the same minutes Omoruyi/Thiam played this year, but with the 3P shooting stats of Yeboah/Young's last played season...

- If Yeboah played 29.2 min/g, that would have been an extra 3.8 attempts per game... and if you assume his prior season .316 rate (which may be higher when fully healthy), that'd be an extra 1.4 made threes per game.
- If Young played 17.0 min/g, that's another 0.6 attempts per game... at his prior season .323 rate, that would be another 0.2 makes per game.

That would have raised our made threes per game from 6.2 (12th in the B1G) to 7.8 (tied for 4th in the B1G with Michigan and Illinois)

Now, that's wild speculation with a lot of assumptions re: minutes and percentages... but we'll definitely see an increase in attempts next year, especially from the PF spot. We're going to have five guys on the roster who pulled the trigger at least 6.3 times per 40/min in their last season... I don't think we've ever had that at Rutgers (definitely not in the last 20 years).

That will surely change the way defenses approach us.... we'll probably see less zone, and more man extending past the perimeter... which could open things up for Johnson underneath. Really excited to see how the offense takes shape.

This is the type of post, with details and supporting information that becomes pretty hard to argue against. I could argue that some of our 3 point percentages might be slightly better by a point here or there.

There's also looking at the same FT percentages worth noting. Yeboah is solid as Eugene was also solid but clutch in spots at the line. We lose Shaq Doorson and his defense, but he was 38% from the FT line and Myles was 40% at the line. I don't know how you remedy either stat, but I think FT percentages will be better which adds a point or 2-3 there.

Even if the defense is the same or worse, RU should be 3 to 6 PPG better in spots overall. If they can find a defensive PF to rebound and alter shots for 12 to 18 minutes a game, RU is set to improve.

 

[Russ Wood]

Of course. The other reaction is that our new PG might be a Scottie Pippen

Scottie Pippen was practically a shut down defender so...

 

[Scarlet83]

Another part of that analysis.......

Will 6'5'' Yeboah be able to stay on the court as a 4th perimeter player. I know Paul is tall, but not a good look when your 4 is standing next to your PG and they have identical bodies.

I hope Ron has a good offseason in the gym. It is essential he gains 5-10 pounds of muscle.

Because Paul and Yaboah have the same bodies. C’mon FIG.

 

[dkostus]

Scottie Pippen was practically a shut down defender so...

Yeah, I was looking more at the point-forward aspect but I can fantasize that Paul has dramatically improved on this front

 

[RU848789]

Paul actually looks an inch taller than Yeboah, but pics can be decieving. Daniel definitely needs that weight room.

In clips, Yeboah doesnt look that undersized, and certainly not any more undersized than Gene was. If anything this just confirms how big Paul is.

Only if you look at the hair. Look at their eyes - Yeboah and Mulcahy are the same exact height - and hoping that's 6'6", not 6'5", lol.

 

[kcg88]

6'6" or 6'7" is basically the new 6'9" or 6'10" as far as 4s go.

The starting "PFs" (if you want to even call it that) in the Final Four:
Culver - 6'6.75" with shoes (official Combine measurement)
Hunter - 6'7" (listed)
Goins - 6'7" (listed)
McLemore - 6'7" (listed)

Schofield on Tennessee was listed at 6'6" but measured 6'5.25" with shoes at the combine. Brazdeikis on Michigan was 6'7". Williams on LSU is 6'6". On and on it goes.

 

[Fzacsattac]

Kid in middle is preferred wlk on? Name and scouting report, please.

Daniel Lobach (?) from North Carolina and Moravian Prep.

 

[Scangg]

Only if you look at the hair. Look at their eyes - Yeboah and Mulcahy are the same exact height - and hoping that's 6'6", not 6'5", lol.

It's been said Paul's a legit 6'6. I'd be more worried about Yeboah's height if EO wasn't the same height

 

[RUChoppin]

So, I did a very rough (and a bit screwy, I admit) breakdown of points scored by position last year, and came out with this:

PG: 14.3
SG: 14.5
SF: 12.9
PF: 16.8
C: 10.4

Here was my approach, which has several flaws, but is a very rough look:

Last year at the 1, we had 1250 possible minutes across 31 games (and 2 OTs). We got 1055 from Baker (378 pts), 9 from Downes (0 pts) and 186 of McConnell's 481 (38.7% of his time.... very roughly 66 of his 170 of his points, if he scored at the same rate at the 1 vs. 2, which he likely didn't). That's 14.3 pts/g from the 1.

At the 2, we had 1250 possible minutes. We got 710 from Mathis (263 pts), the remaining 295 from McConnell (and remaining 104 pts), and 246 of Kiss' 543 min (45.3% of his time.... very roughly 81 of his 179 pts). That's 14.5 pts/g from the 2.

At the 3, we had 1250 possible minutes. We got 424 from Thiam (95 pts), the remaining 297 of Kiss (and 101 pts).... leaving 519 min of Harper's 690 (75.2% of his time... very roughly 205 of his 272 pts). So, we averaged roughly 12.9 pts/g from the 3.

At the 5, we had 1250 possible minutes. We got 546 from Johnson (149 pts), 551 from Doorson (115 pts), and 32 from Doucoure (2 pts).... leaving 121 of Omoruyi's 817 min (14.8% of his time.... very roughly 57 of his 386 pts). So, we averaged roughly 10.4 pts/g from the 5.

That leaves the 4, where we had 1250 possible minutes. We got 392 from Carter (126 pts), the remaining 696 from Omoruyi (and remaining 329 pts), and the remaining 171 from Harper (and remaining 67 pts). So, we averaged roughly 16.8 pts/g from the 4.

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Looking at that in light of our new roster additions, I'd think that we'll see some increases at the SF and PF spots, as we see more guards playing the 3 and Harper/Yeboah sharing time the 4 with Carter in reserve. With more shooters spacing the floor (and a deeper arc), it might give Johnson/Doucoure more room to work around the basket to possibly increase production there?

 

[BillyC80]

Looked at most of the rosters B1G 4s are not that big. Really only Purdue jumped out at me. Trevion Williams is a beast. You almost wonder is Yeboah or Ron would get Haarms

In the paint I would keep Ron out of Haarms way. Don’t want him picking up cheap fouls.