http://www.app.com/story/sports/col...5/eddie-jordan-rutgers-lost-control/80423204/
"Eddie Jordan has lost control."
"Eddie Jordan has lost control."
Edelson Calls for Eddie to Be Fired.
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That is funny when Louisville has a coach and they maybe had hookers on recruiting visit and he is still there.
Louisville wins and makes the NCAAs.
LOL I'm not sure if EJ can get it done here, however, he has far from "lost control" of the program. WTF is wrong with people?
No need to make it a spectacle. He just made the right decision easy to make. A layup for Hobbs. The article didn't go overboard. It says this
"He’s just not a very good college basketball coach, having spent virtually his entire coaching career in the NBA."
He never had control. From day 1 he has taken short cuts. The Georgetown guy that never made it here was Exhibit A.
Connect the dots...this guy has taken this job and the $ with little aspirations or attempts to succeed.
Connect the dots...this guy has taken this job and the $ with little aspirations or attempts to succeed.
Maybe he would be the most relieved guy if the change was made and he gets paid. Those comments in the press last week sounded like the guy who knows the end maybe near and decides to lash out even if it meant being critical of the fan base who up to this point has pretty much treated him with kid gloves.
Whoa, do you really believe that Louisville has any standards other than the W-L record? Do you think it cares about its reputation? I mean, c'mon, it rehired Bobby Petrino. I'm sure the ACC is proud.
I agree wth this. Those comments last week seemed an indication the wheels were about ready to fall off. He has looked defeated the last two years imo.
He has lost enough control on a teetering ship held together only because he had 3 guys injured.
Edelson is right. Eddie needs to go. He needs to go because he isn't the right guy. He has failed at roster management. Apparently has some discipline issues and quite frankly has lost historically here...0-34 vs top 250, 27 straight Big 10 losses, Take your pick. There are more than enough reasons to fire him and the only reason people are fretting is because he played here
Edelson is right. Eddie needs to go. He needs to go because he isn't the right guy. He has failed at roster management. Apparently has some discipline issues and quite frankly has lost historically here...0-34 vs top 250, 27 straight Big 10 losses, Take your pick. There are more than enough reasons to fire him and the only reason people are fretting is because he played here
We all see why he cried when he beat Wisconsin. Because he knew it would be the last time he would win a conference game.
You are so wrong!!! No one wanted to succeed more than Eddie. But the dumpster fire left by Rice and the neglect of the administration for the last 25-30 years, the lack of a practice facility, and the amenities of the top programs make it really difficult to recruit top players to get us out of this mess. Not to mention the negative recruiting done by all our local competitors, the AAU handlers, over our 24 year NCAA drought.
Your post is offensive to me as a season ticket holder and alumnus. By the way Eddie makes peanuts for a Power 5 coach, and if you want to blame someone blame the AD's and the administration for not offering up 2.5 -3.0 million that could have gotten an established college coach to consider this program at the time along with shovels on the ground for a practice facility and upgrades and whatever damn else he would have demanded.
Eddie came naïve to coaching college basketball. Its not the NBA. He made a plethora of mistakes from his early assistant coaching hires, lackadaisical recruiting, later assistant coaching hires, refusal to allow input from assitants during the game, downplaying of rebounding drills, feeling that players don't need time outs that they can figure it out for themselves, the lack of stressing defense, and lastly discipline which seemed to be an issue last year with Etou as well. Parting of being a head coach in college is managing your egos. And I have not even gone into the win/loss record.
GRF's post was that he took short cuts and implied he just took the money never intending to succeed. That is pure crap! You and maybe I might not have taken his NBA approach but that has nothing to do with his wanting Ru to succeed more than anyone who posts on this site.
Fred Hoiberg at Iowa State, Lon Kruger at Oklahoma, and now Avery Johnson at Alabama are NBA coaches with success. The difference is how talented their players are and have been at their institutions for years. They play a whole lot of up and down basketball, with little defense at times , but have amazing talented shooters and players that made it work. You can say the NBA approach has not worked here yet but I will fight tooth and nail claiming he didn't care or took short cuts. That is just a reactionary post to the events of today.
This may be one of the most ridiculous comments I have seen here....even the other did not go this far. The never had control since day 1 thing is beyond silly. Three years later and someone says he never had control, God that's stupid. This looks like a guy trying to keep up with others on this board. It's a shame, a real shame.
This is an issue of a coach disciplining two guys to try to keep them on track. It's a lot better than looking the other way. Freeman and Sanders will be better young men after action.
no...the combination of his laziness, ego, and inability to run an organization made his chances of success zero!
Eddie making peanuts???....no one wanted him...he was going to make zilch. His career was dead.
It looks like many think that - for the sake of the program - it may be best to perform a swift amputation... and if so, a humane, dignified,professional and amicable transition would be the best.
Hobbs is proving to be adept at navigating uncertain waters - and this will be another opportunity to demonstrate his skills. The best course will be to stay classy - thank Eddie Jordan for his efforts and his unflinching loyalty and commendable efforts under uniquely challenging circumstances ( remember 3 years ago, - video was airing that showed Rutgers Coach Mike Rice grabbing and kicking players at practice and using anti-gay slurs).
Ultimately, the official phrasing should be:
..... that Eddie Jordan has "elected to step down as Head Coach"
.... that Rutgers is. moving on to the logical next step in the process to raise the competitive level of the basketball program
Hobbs is proving to be adept at navigating uncertain waters - and this will be another opportunity to demonstrate his skills. The best course will be to stay classy - thank Eddie Jordan for his efforts and his unflinching loyalty and commendable efforts under uniquely challenging circumstances ( remember 3 years ago, - video was airing that showed Rutgers Coach Mike Rice grabbing and kicking players at practice and using anti-gay slurs).
Ultimately, the official phrasing should be:
..... that Eddie Jordan has "elected to step down as Head Coach"
.... that Rutgers is. moving on to the logical next step in the process to raise the competitive level of the basketball program
No! This issue is not the coach disciplining. The issue is how he goes about recruiting. Look at his record.
Everything is a shortcut. How many commitments of Jordan will ever play a full year of basketball. what is the batting average?
Never in a million years would I think we'd have a worse record in year 3 than year 1. I don't give a crap about the injuries or suspensions. If Eddie was going to get it done, he would have the players in place or a highly rated recruiting class coming in. He has neither. His tenure needs to end.
Your kidding right.
2 suspension in basketball that almost 20% of your
Team. I could make a case at this point Sanders is the program. If he is lost control of him, you finish it
O fer in conference ect,
Yes they will be fine young men moving forward - they will eat all their veggies
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Would be nice but neither the athletic department nor the university for that matter has demonstrated much ability to manage the message. Hopefully Hobbs can right that ship too.
Not validating the prior poster (goru7) but using your logic....Why would anyone take over a dumpster fire, the neglect of the administration for the last 25-30 years, lack of practice facility, and the amenities of the top programs unless you are really dumb or want a few years of easy money.
No, I'm not "kidding," there is a big difference between 2 kids having grade and/or a weed-smoking problem and "losing control" of the program. Sorry. Now, again, I think EJ is NOT the right guy for this program - at least least hasn't shown me, so far, that he is - and would be fine with him losing his job, but he SURE AS HELL isn't losing it because 2 kids failed drug tests, or didn't do well in class, and were reported and properly suspended.
Pitino generates money and championships for Louisville.Elite programs have different standards to work under which is unaccptable but a reality in college athletics.
Because he loves his alma mater and wanted to restore it to the glory days when he played or back to the Ncaa's when he was a coach here!!!
Nuts I repspect your opinion, we will just agree to disagree.
As you have stated EJ just not what is needed right now and we can agree on that. I really hoped it turned out differently. Very few Love Rutgers as much EJ
So? That's not "losing control" of a program, EVERYBODY takes risks at this level, shit even the Ivies have gotten "riskier" over the years. Again, I'm not supporting Eddie right now - at all - I just can't get behind the commentary that he's "lost control" of the program.
I wrote about that in another thread
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...change-or-no-change.75668/page-2#post-1579583
That's the scary question. Who's taking this job, that would be recognized as a step up, without an enormous salary and very long contract?
We might get lucky and make a Goodall type hire. A high school coach willing to take the job for basically the same money the Board of Ed paid him. But I don't think so. Of course that program didn't already have the stink hanging around it that hoops has. And yes the job market for wrestling coaches is a lot different than hoops.
So if you want Jordan gone ok, but better brace yourself for a real stretch type of hire. No sure thing is walking in the door.
are people really scared of what comes next as a coach......do people bother to look at the win/loss results. 28 straight Big 10 losses headed to 35 straight. 0-35 vs rpi top 250 since beating Wisconsin and headed to 0-41. It CANNOT get any worse than that. When your only wins as a program this year are Howard, Central Arkansas, FDU, UMass Lowell, and Central Connecticut State and three of those were not decided until the last 7 minutes...well then you have nowhere to go but up. No one should be fearing what comes next. Same thing was said for Flood too
Your comparison for football is so simple minded. Football has been a program that has gone to 9 bowls in 11 years. Basketball has a 10 year losing record and no NCAA in 25 years. Even though Flood and his less than Big time staff were overmatched , they still beat some good teams along the way ,like Arkansas, NorthCarolina, and competed against Fresno State and Louisville and Michigan State . The talent in the program is better than people think and we continue to send players to the NFL. Basketball's last NBA guy is Douby 10 years ago . You think someone like Chris Ash , from Ohio State no less, is coming here for basketball. Like Calipari or Coach K's top assistant is coming here. You are crazy. You also do not realize how hard it is to win in this league especially on the road where on an average night you are playing in front of 15,000 fans. If you think the next coach is going to succeed here and get us to the NCAA , I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
