Facility upgrades: Clemson
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This is f*ckin' ridiculous. I should've taken some notes just so that I could list all of the things here that I found to be .. ridiculous. Suffice it to say, there were quite a few. The virtual reality studio, the whiffle ball field and putt-putt course, and a few others. But, of course, players, recruits, and their families are blown away by things like this so I can understand why Clemson is spending so much on the facility.
...and yet we mock a guy like Cardale Jones when he says 'I didn't come to Ohio State to play school'. Basically these schools are selling the idea that these guys are here to play football and have fun. I saw basically one room in that whole video dedicated to academic/career development. Didn't notice a computer lounge, study hall, etc. Did see wiffle ball, putt-putt, virtual reality, nap room, etc.
I am exhausted just watching the video. So many choices, so little time. I think I will lay down for a bit in the nap room.
$62 Million.
In NJ, that would be $362 Million.
http://www.postandcourier.com/artic...2-million-football-operations-center-proposal
At this time, the proposed project cost is $62 million, which will be entirely funded through private donations and athletic department revenues. Clemson hopes to break ground in early 2016, with plans to open the center sometime in spring or summer 2017.
All they need to do is build a 4-star hotel right next to this and the players would never have to leave the facility except maybe to go to class - and even that will probably go away once all the classes are on-line. The arms race is ridiculous and can only be stopped by the universities, themselves, but the Presidents have no balls.
the overwhelming powers that brought this into being - also represented the forces that caused the elimination of the Clemson swim team (because the swimming facility would have been in the way of the creation of this extravaganza) - at Clemson - do not impede the progress of football - or you will be vanquished.
Yes, the "Nap Room" is the one I forgot. Thanks for reminding me.
But, the reality is that huge football facilities, like these, don't win championships. Tell me that you've got a great coach, with a great coaching staff, who will help develop me into an NFL-ready player. That's the stuff I would care about. And, if so, I'll be able to buy all of the lap pools, gyms, putt-putt courses, et all. that I could ever want (because I'd be making so much money as an NFL player with a giant contract). This "facility" isn't going to actually DO anything for me.
But, the reality is that huge football facilities, like these, don't win championships. Tell me that you've got a great coach, with a great coaching staff, who will help develop me into an NFL-ready player. That's the stuff I would care about. And, if so, I'll be able to buy all of the lap pools, gyms, putt-putt courses, et all. that I could ever want (because I'd be making so much money as an NFL player with a giant contract). This "facility" isn't going to actually DO anything for me.
As long as sports aren't subsidized by students or tax payers, I don't see the problem with it.
It 1.) helps with recruiting and 2.) keeps the kids close to the facility -- and out of trouble.
An investment well spent.
An investment well spent.
I think you underestimate how much time players spend in the football facility.
The money laundering room was particularly nice.
One of my employees is a Clemson grad. She said they were able to raise more than they needed to build the facility. More than they needed.
I like the other post.
Clenson's cost to build this = $62,000,000
If RU was to build this = $400,000,000
The northeast is a joke. I am tragically loyal and won't leave. Ugh.
Clenson's cost to build this = $62,000,000
If RU was to build this = $400,000,000
The northeast is a joke. I am tragically loyal and won't leave. Ugh.
What you say is true, about ball players not really being students. That said, it's not really fair criticism that the football facility doesn't have academic facilities. They have Vickery Hall, which is an entirely academic facility strictly for athletes. You're making too much out of that fact that it's not all in the same building.
how about this:
Mississippi State sells out 8 cabanas on the terrace inside of the stadium gates at $18,000 each for the season.
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-state-bulldogs-sell-stadium-cabanas-48-hours
Mississippi State sells out 8 cabanas on the terrace inside of the stadium gates at $18,000 each for the season.
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-state-bulldogs-sell-stadium-cabanas-48-hours
That's the irony here. There's no need to launder money or pay anyone when you have donors with the pockets and willpower to build a Taj Mahal that's self contained and more exclusive than the pLayboy Mansion.
The only shady aspect here is whether or not people are going to bother to be students.
Of course, there are people whose full time job it is to make sure that jocks are attending class and meeting with their tutors. An FBS player once told me of the academic support system, "no one does your work for you, but you'd have to really try hard to fail" given that they can lock you in a study hall with tutors if your grades are in jeopardy.
Of course, it goes without saying that if the coaches can't win with the caliber of recruits facilities like that attract, the coaches won't be there long. But I think it's safe to say Dabo is in Clemson as long as he wants.
If rich people want to buy this for them, then what is the issue?
As long as the money is not coming from Tax payers, or is being taking from the general school budget, then it doesn't matter.
As long as the money is not coming from Tax payers, or is being taking from the general school budget, then it doesn't matter.
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How is the only $62 mill? I understand unions are much more powerful in NJ than the south but is it really that much more powerful? damn.
I've got no particular beef with Clemson, but as others say, that facility is meant to get these kids to spend every waking moment in that building. A study area doesn't seem like such a bad idea to me.
If the self labeled Ivy of the South, UNC, keeps players on the field, Clemson will. Clemson will make sure those kids have Cs as the end of the term.
For what it's worth, $18,000 divided by 12 passes per game.....times six home games = $250 per seat per game....which isn't bad compared to any pro ticket, especially premium pro tickets.
Keep in mind some of the facilities are already there. They built an indoor practice facility a couple of years ago, and this facility is going to be added on to that. They aren't having to start from scratch.
It's not a bad idea. However, you are making it out to be an either/or situation, and it's not. They do have academic facilities. They are just housed in a different building. As to why they are not all in the same building, there are a couple of reasons.
For one, Clemson already has this stuff to begin with. It's currently housed in the West Zone facility at the end of the stadium. Problem is, the practice fields are on the other side of the street. The NCAA has strict rules on how long players can practice each week. Dabo estimates that they lose 30 minutes of practice time a day, because the players have to dress out at the stadium, and then walk across the street to the practice field, which does count against practice time. That's the main reason they are building this.
The other issue is, they have limited space where they are building this. The facility is going to be built beside the practice field (again, the whole point of the project). Problem is, there is a relatively small space to do that, which is a patch of land in between the practice field, the creek, and the road. Vickery Hall (the academic center) is a fairly large facility, and trying to cram it, plus the football facilities into one building is not really feasible. Plus, the stadium is on the far end of campus. It's not really convenient for the faculty, or the players. Vickery Hall, on the other hand, is located right in the middle of campus, which is simply more convenient for everyone.
I realize you don't have anything against the school. I'm just saying you're overreacting to the fact that the academic center and the football facility aren't in the same building. Like I said, I agree with your overall analysis, but you're picking the wrong battlefield.
Minnesota built an entire new stadium, including infrastructure improvements,
for $288.5 million. In New Jersey Rutgers, for over $100 million, got the new south endzone.
I'll also add that the State of Minnesota paid 48% = $137.2 million.
In New Jersey the State contributed $0.
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