Yes….on adjusted basis they arent as good but still above avergae.
Wow that has just been an issue last 3 games. We were an above average shooting team until…..
They're worse, but now we're cutting our sample down to only five games. Also, how do we define "having a pulse"? If we're talking about our defense both Georgetown and Howard are at least pulse-adjacent on the offensive side of the ball.
Think part of the explanation is the staff is sticking with the complex defensive game plan and rotations …but our defensive rotations are not perfect yet …and they need to be perfect to be in position to rebound (and get an outlet pass going)…and part of the reason why the DREB is really out of whack.
remember we had fools gold hot shooting vs Seton Hall, take away 4 of those......
Which is why when we truly analyze how we are playing and if we are trending the right way things need to be looked at from a shooting neutralized basis. I do think subjective adjustments should be made based on the quality of looks.
Just look at him. Wolf has been extremely disappointing in terms of rebounding and is a below the rim player who doesn't protect the rim. I'd have an extremely hard time believing Ogbole won't be a better rebounder and rim protector. Wolf more skilled with the ball but Ogbole offers something in an area we are really struggling in
They both fill needs where there is a hole in the roster. Ogbole much limited but useful role. Williams would likely play a massive role upgrading guard play while adding size for rebounding and defense against larger guards
1 game out of position in win loss isn't that meaningful. We have zero impressive OOC wins and almost lost to a glorified HS team.
True, but also no bad losses. It's pretty hard to argue that we didn't do better OOC this year (again, in W/L, not in actual quality of play) than last year, and pretty much everyone agrees we would've been fine last season at 11-9 in conference play.
The almost matters a lot.
This really isn't true. The resume would be fine with a good conference record and the net while currently bad is not irrecoverably so. It's also not clear that NET matters much if at all, look at our NET in 2021-22 vs 2022-23 and what conclusion can you draw? (And yes, I am aware that 2021-22 Rutgers had a very unique resume but the same conclusions can be drawn from others which is that the NET is used much more to evaluate the strength of your opponents than as an actual input to the selection process of a given team).
I agree that is unlikely that we do well enough because based on seeing this team play they are not that good. But the actual level of play that would be required from this point forward isn't dominance or anything like that, it's just to play like a top ~30 team or so.
It didn't almost matter a lot it actually dropped our NET like 10 spots
It dropped us 10 spots, but again our actual NET ranking basically doesn't matter as far as I can tell.
They haven't shown they matter any more or less than in conference results.
Last year our best OOC win was #90 Wake Forest at home, Q3. Our second best was against #119 UMass Lowell, also at home, also Q3. On top of that we had two Q3 losses (vs #125 Temple and vs #77 Seton Hall).
Our NET was at 27 after the Bucknell game last year that made us 8-4.
Purdue was #5 come selection sunday but yes that was obviously a very good win. Not really sure how leaving it out is misleading since we are talking about non conference performance.
Our. Net. Doesn't. Matter.
Because unless our 11-9 this year includes that win then it’s far from equal. Also our net ranking was great after ooc play last year.
We didn't make it last year. Not sure why you think performing the same this year will get us in when we will have a worse NET
We were 10-10 last year not 11-9. I am arguing that 8-3 + 11-9 + 1-1 = 20-13 would likely be enough and that 19-14 would likely leave us short but in the conversation like last year. Obviously, all that depends on the resumes around, specific wins, etc, but as a general range.
We weren't 11-9 last year, but also it's irrelevant to the underlying basis of this conversation which is whether our OOC performance this year was worse, for NCAA tournament selection, than last year (it was not).
Net rankings in the 90s this year compared to 20s last year. Sorry but you can’t hide from this.
Your individual net ranking does not matter how many times does that have to be said
Hes a freshman who has improved defensively over the course of the season and has showed more effort than Jones ever did. This is embarrassing
Yea, as a freshman on a team that generates zero open looks, has no one that makes the right passes when he does get open, and a system that does not run efficient offense. What happens to Fig's lineup when teams play defense with half a brain and realize they don't have to cover half the players and ruins any and all spacing?
That was a wild take after one game of this college career. I guess you're stuck with it now.
You’re right, tonight for sure. He’s too fixated on firing the 3 ball. He’s gotta us the pump fake and drive. He probably could have made a difference tonight for sure.
I see a difference in a few areas…
2nd paragraph was the issue in the first half in that bad stretch
How many games are we going to have to have where we go down double digits, bench guys that dont play D, put in our best defensive lineup in and then come back.
So I was 50% shitposting when I said it originally but now I'm only 25%. I do think JJ could've been a productive player eventually it he cared to stick around, and I think the same for Gavin. I also think that this is basically a lost year and I'd generally play him over Austin Williams even though the latter impacts winning much more right now.
