GAME THREAD: RU WBB vs Illinois, 4pm, BTN, story :
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Penn St was a good win against a above average team that has a couple of good wins. I don't see us beating any good teams though, especially on the road. But we'll take it one game at a time. Go RU.
CVS has never put enough time in the offense. That's why if you look back at her career, a blow out game was a rarity. Never understood that she would not let the team practice shots before the 2nd half would start. It seems like common sense to allow players to get the feel of their shot with even a few practice shots.
write it off? like the other 10 'wtf games' this yr?
Exactly. I am so tired of the commentators on RU TV games praising CVS like she is a golden trophy. Always coming up for a reason why everything that happens is not due to her coaching.. Always saying in games that RU loses that CVS will take care of it. This has been happening beyond this year.
Now I will tie my rant specifically to this game. Again after ridiculously praising CVS, the commentators made it sound like this game was an anomaly and not closer to the norm. I almost puked when they praised Illinois win as a win against a quality opponent..
Maybe Stringer’s 974-374 lifetime record has earned more respect from the commentators then some RU fans feel is deserved.
Through the course of CVS’ career there are many who believe she’s a great HC and might feel this season is an exception to the rule, instead of being the type of season her detractors imply is common for a Stringer lead team.
I’m in the Vivian has been one of the greatest WBB HCs of all time, but if this season is a losing one I expect Hobbs to ask Stringer to retire because he’s not renewing her contract.
Through the course of CVS’ career there are many who believe she’s a great HC and might feel this season is an exception to the rule, instead of being the type of season her detractors imply is common for a Stringer lead team.
I’m in the Vivian has been one of the greatest WBB HCs of all time, but if this season is a losing one I expect Hobbs to ask Stringer to retire because he’s not renewing her contract.
I did not say her whole career. That is the main problem w the CVS supporters and the TV commentators. Every season has to be judged on that season. CVS supporters and the TV commentators are influenced by her whole career when evaluating the present. I'm happy for CVS that she is a H of Fame coach. But it has nothing to do w the present.
And if you look at my posts about "The beginning of the end", it states why the end came very quickly. The main component of CVS's success has been her amazing recruiting. Second is her teaching of defense. She stressed defense so much (Even as we speak) to the detriment of the offense. THe recruiting is pretty obvious.
Now that her recruiting has gone down, big time, the game v Illinois is a classic example of the present CVS team. Still some defense, but not much offense. You and other CVS supporters will say...look at the last 2 games in re of offense and 3 point shots. I say that this is the exception. I guess the rest of the season will show that you or I am wrong.
It cuts both ways -
- If you are only judging on a season, do you feel that she should have been terminated in 2002 after going 9-20 with a team that included Davalyn Cunningham, Mauri Horton and Chelsea Newton?
- It is only CVS's career success that makes some recent seasons seem so disappointing. Our record the last 5 years is 108-58. Not earth-shattering, not up to prior standards. But I would think acceptable for a different coach without the history of CVS.
- Would you feel differently if this season was '09-'10 which wasn't a particularly good season - if much better than this one?
You brand CVS supporters with a broad brush. I'm a CVS supporter - but as I have said, I doubt she can turn things around at this point, and (as an arbitrary measure) win 20 games in a season again. While I don't agree with a lot of opinions about CVS that I read on the board, it doesn't mean I don't realize she has shortcomings.
I think the good 3 point shooting against Wisconsin was the exception. So was the horrible shooting in this game. And the hot shooting by Illinois - did you see that they shot over 50% I think both 3 point and over-all. That's not normal, either. And we hit 1 of 15 three's. What business did our team have taking 15 3 pointers? I think some players became infatuated after the last game.
No one has ever thought Vivian's offense was dynamic. We hold a team down by defense and score just enough points to win the game - that's also the secret to the upsets we used to pull. The offense often isn't as bad as some make out, but it still has never been a strong point. And no, CVS supporters are not likely to tell you differently.
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