He will try to win the starting job.
Gavin Wimsatt Commits to Kentucky!!
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you seem triggered as if this validates your feelings on Gav
think you need to reevaluate the whole affair
remind us again what college sport you played?
transferring home so he can be around his family and friends. He can still compete for the job there.
the Burgoo Stew is the cherry on top for him and essentially a metaphor. Same reason some of our boys transfer back home to NJ after things don't go as they hoped elsewhere, they miss home - family and friends, familiar surroundings, food like Taylor Ham vs Pork Roll debate, pizza and bagels lol.
I think the Wimsatt and Monangai combo worked really well together. Ciarocca likes balance though it seems he always ran even at Minny. His QB's there and at PSU we're not dual threat. Ironically he did install the read option here his first time around which we all know did not work out and we went back to the pro style. But since that time he has liked balance and he likes a QB who is accurate to keep the chains moving. Painful to watch them gobble up the clock and the field a couple of years ago against us.
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Article said he passes better long which is what I've been saying
"Wimsatt struggled with three-level accuracy last season on tape. Looks like he aims the ball on short passes around the line of scrimmage and misfires on slants. Better at pushing the ball downfield showing some good touch and ball placement on throws up the seam and down the sideline. Has velocity to drive the football down the middle."
RU did not have the OL/WR for long balls (Washington a bit)
Meanwhile, many people seem unaware that Kaliak portaled from Minn for same reasons Gavin portaled - a new starter portaled in (Max Brosmer who completed 64 percent of his passes for 3,459 yards and 29 touchdown passes in 2023 at New Hampshire).
He was already voted a captain by players
Fleck has already taken notice that players are buying into Brosmer.
"He’s already a captain, players vote on that. For him to be in the role that he is already, that takes a lot of work. He’s a really good player, the data is out there to support that. But we’ve got to continue to keep that arrow moving and needle moving for him to be able to close that gap," Fleck said."
Gophers name Max Brosmer captain for 2024 season
The Gophers football team held a spring practice on Saturday open to members of Dinkytown Athletes, the school's NIL collective.www.fox9.com
SI College football article already naming Brosmer potentially the 6th best QB in B1G. Kaliak they had a 16th.
"Garbers and Kaliakmnis have both made a handful of starts, but haven't shown anything worth writing home about, while M.J. 15,16 out of 18. Morris is an inexperienced transfer from NC State."
Where does Gophers' Max Brosmer rank amongst Big Ten QBs?
With the spring transfer portal window officially closed, it's a great time to look at the brand new 18-team Big Ten, and where new Gophers' QB Max Brosmer coulwww.si.com
So Minn's clunker moved to RU and RU moved theirs to Kentucky. I can understand people wanting an upgrade at QB but RU just got a cast-off. I was reminded of a three stooges skit
AK can complete short passes. Like Vedral. That’s the difference. And it’s huge.
Could be true - I expected GW to be better with Dymere Miller and better OL long ball blocking.
This was supposed to be a "year of mastery" lol.
Fact is, comparing best seasons, Wimsatt was practically identical to Vedral (another Dual Threat recruit) for passing. Vedral had a few more clicks on accuracy (dump off passes to Pacheco and others can do that) but YDs/TDs/INTs practically same area. Wimsatt just added another 9 rushing TDs and more wins.
“Completions come as a result of protection, correct routes and then throwing and catching the football,” head coach Greg Schiano said during his press conference on Monday. “So everybody contributes. But at the end of the day, it goes on whose record? The quarterback’s. He gets the completion percentage. The receivers don’t; the line doesn’t. At the end of the day, we need to be more accurate with the ball for sure. So we’re working on it. But like everything else, we are developing, and I’m sure he’s going to get better at it.”
Greg Schiano speaks on accuracy issues of Gavin Wimsatt within offense
The Scarlet Knights quarterback is at the bottom of completion percentage rankings.www.onthebanks.com
Please stop.
Those are not similar stat lines and it was not just “a few more” completions. Noah completed 42 more passes than Gavin. That’s more than 30% of Gavin’s total completions on the season.
And our OL was also way worse for Noah.
Granted, Noah didn’t have the upside potential that comes with strong arm strength, but when you have a decent OL and a strong run game, this is less important. We needed the game manager who could move the chains on 3rd and 4 last season. GW just couldn’t provide that. Unless the design play went exactly as intended. Sometimes it did - often on the first drive of the game where the opponent hadn’t adjusted yet to the game plan. That’s where Gavin had his most success. I’d be scared to see his completion rate if you removed completions on first drives.
Fair analysisWe are doomed.
"Kentucky wants to get back to running the football. New offensive coordinator Bush Hamdan has talked about how important it is for the quarterback to provide some value as a rusher. There is no doubt that Gavin Wimsatt can provide that, but a ton of development as a passer in the pocket will be needed for the transfer.
Wimsatt projects as a power conference backup who can provide a short window high floor to the offense thanks to his running ability. The redshirt junior has starter-level tools as a passer but must develop better accuracy quickly as constant misfires can make him turnover-prone and prevent an offense from playing on schedule."
Transfer Bio Blast: Gavin Wimsatt
Kentucky is hosting Rutgers transfer Gavin Wimsatt for a visit. What could the Big Ten transfer bring to Lexington?www.on3.com
I don't have time to play mind reader. The stats are not inspiring. Don't know why you have to play everyone else is the bad buy routine when the stats are not good. BTW, I am neutral on Gavin. He's a fine young man. Maybe the change of teams will serve him well. I wish him luck.
Have a nice day.
GW had sufficient time/opportunity to solidify his position.
We could not move forward hoping the worst passer in college football significantly improved.
This is as win-win a situation as you can get given the circumstance, IMO.
We could not move forward hoping the worst passer in college football significantly improved.
This is as win-win a situation as you can get given the circumstance, IMO.
I' m happy he's found a good situation for himself. If nothing else, he's home. Who knows -- maybe he'll be a better player now that he's back in a familiar environment.
To those who said Gavin had “lots of suitors” coming out of HS, I suggest you read this.
Post in thread 'Gavin Wimsatt transferring from Rutgers'
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/...ransferring-from-rutgers.415477/post-12978127
Post in thread 'Gavin Wimsatt transferring from Rutgers'
https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/...ransferring-from-rutgers.415477/post-12978127
Yet you write a post which assumed what I was thinking? Let me get you a shovel you're digging a hole.
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Vedral completed more passes for essentially the same yards.
That's because he threw more micro "pasettes" - dump-offs, screens, check-downs etc.
Shorter passes = higher completion rate - that's a known fundamental .
180 completions vs 138 completions for same 6.0 avg.
People here often fall down a rabbit hole when it comes to QB stats.
A high % is not necessarily better than a low %
Tell that to the starting DB from Maryland who was relegated to a dmid role, or Patrick Spencer who didn't play organized basketball for 4 years then decided to play and started on a B1G team. Or many other examples. Like the MVP of the Sun Bowl from ND who is the 6th option.
You know less about lacrosse than you do football. That's saying something. You're boy is a handoff machine. Not my fault.
There are some very good athletes but the percentage you just gave is less than 0.001. Just a fact.
Jim brown on the other hand was a man amongst boys in any sport.
Jared Bernhardt. Played 1 year of football after playing 4 years of lacrosse and played in NFL games.
Chris Hogan is a great example. Played 4 years of lacrosse at PSU where he was good, not great. Plays one year of football at Monmouth then is getting playing catching balls from Tom Brady.
He played one season of bro lacrosse and you would say he was a failure. He didn't belong. Back to the NFL he went. There are a lot of examples. Uva had an All Pac 12 first team LB join their team last year. He couldn't get past the second midfield line.
I can go on.
There are many examples. Just because you don't know them doesn't mean they don't exist.
Navy's starting option QB plays on their lacrosse team right now. No one would say he was some crazy athlete on the field.
Of course, none of this has nothing to do with Gavin being a handoff machine. You didn't like the comment and tried to make it personal, but all you really did was show how little you know. Congrats.
Btw, over the years Rutgers has had many football/lacrosse players who excelled at both. Like Al Ray.
Gavin is a better athlete than the Navy QB and 99.99% if D1 lacrosse players. Also, he's not my boy. I like whoever plays for us. You on the other hand are always a douche about our players. Maybe we should
Only recruit lax players going forward.
Good luck on keeping your sanity Wildcat fans. Lord knows you're going to need it.
Except that shorter passes DID NOT mean a higher completion rating for Gavin. You can’t have it both ways. Gavin could never execute the shorts and when he did complete a lateral it was often for a loss because the receiver had to fall to the ground to make the reception. Thats why we rarely called for those plays. A QB who cannot complete short, simple throws, is rate limiting.
He's definitely not a better athlete than the Navy QB. That's crazy talk. Put Gavin on a lacrosse field and he wouldn't move any different than many of the guys. In fact, his lateral speed is very questionable. Nevermind his hands.
Kentucky has to replace all of last year's QBs, so Gavin might be in a good situation to win the starting position.
Brock Vandagriff a Georgia transfer who was a backup there for the last 3 years is expected to be the starter in 2024, but that's not set in stone
Wimsatt might prove that all he needed is a change of scenery to bring out the talent Rutgers felt he had and earn Stoop's trust to lead the Wildcats IF Vandagriff doesn't work out like expected.
Brock Vandagriff a Georgia transfer who was a backup there for the last 3 years is expected to be the starter in 2024, but that's not set in stone
Wimsatt might prove that all he needed is a change of scenery to bring out the talent Rutgers felt he had and earn Stoop's trust to lead the Wildcats IF Vandagriff doesn't work out like expected.
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Okay you win. Let's field a team of LAX players in the BIG. Should work well for us.
Some Xavier Airline highlights. See him outrunning and out maneuvering ND's defense. Never saw him to that to anyone on the lacrosse field.
When they come out onto the court at the RAC they look like little boys. There is no comparison.
Just to be clear, Bo Melton would not have had any more success than our existing wide outs with yards after carry on Gavin’s screen passes. He point blank couldn’t execute them in terms of putting the ball in a place where even an all star receiver could possibly stay on his feet. This isn’t really debatable.
Now, it might be the case that, like Laviano with Caroo, GW could’ve benefitted from a higher completion ratio on some of Gavin’s 50/50 long balls to the sidelines. Maybe a few more of those would be acrobatic completions.
All this said - we really need a QB who can complete short passes even if there is some trade off on arm strength. Seeing Gavin in the spring game, it didn’t appear that he’s made progress in this area. AK looked like he could complete these types of throws. As far as I’m concerned, when your a run first type of team like us, this needs to be a prerequisite. Any other strengths and weaknesses are secondary.
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Fake news. Our starting defense is 6'2 6'3 and 6'5. They'd manhandle you.
Our starting RB looks like a little boy as a comparison.
He has no better chance of playing at Kentucky then he would have here, so I really don't understand the move. In fact, I think he had a much better chance of playing here.
Kentucky was able to load up in the quarterback room by landing the Georgia transfer Brock Vandagriff (a top 20 rated player), Georgia Southern transfer Beau Allen, and then signing Boley in the class of 2024. Boley is a 5.8 , 4 star recruit.
Note: Kentucky already has another QB commitment from a 5.8. 4 star recruit for next year too.
Kentucky was able to load up in the quarterback room by landing the Georgia transfer Brock Vandagriff (a top 20 rated player), Georgia Southern transfer Beau Allen, and then signing Boley in the class of 2024. Boley is a 5.8 , 4 star recruit.
Note: Kentucky already has another QB commitment from a 5.8. 4 star recruit for next year too.
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