I think it's pretty F-ing sad that this is our first ncaa tourney in 30 yrs and this is all our fanbase is talking out. Really deflates the magic out of it.
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The kid has been in a hotel room for days. In your expert opinion, what should he be doing with all of that time? Should he spend the whole time watching film? Every single waking second?
I think it's pretty F-ing sad that this is our first ncaa tourney in 30 yrs and this is all our fanbase is talking out. Really deflates the magic out of it.
The idea that some Rutgers fans are already making this issue an excuse for losing is laughable, as if these kids are robots and spend 24 hours each and every day doing basketball.
That's what winners do.
You make a good point. You think this is the first time he's thought about this? Wouldn't that mean he hasn't been focused on any games all year? Guess this is the reason we aren't undefeated, right? Naive.So you think between the zoom calls and the organizing and all he has spent only 2 minutes on this. naive.
Can we agree that Michael Jorda nand Tom Brady are the two greatest winners of our generation (and two of the best all time)? Are you saying they thought about their sport at all times? Because I feel like I've seen MJ at a blackjack table or on a golf course. I've seen Tom out with his family and on a boat drinking. Soooooooo, no.That's what winners do.
It’ll create super teams and a two tier system with basically pro college teams and everyone else. It benefits the heck for the college kids so I get why they like it but it’ll make it much less interesting when Duke and the rest just dominate always. I’m for them getting money but put up guard rails is all I’m saying or else Rutgers will never have a chance to ever get into an NCAA again. We’d be in the also ran category.What’s wrong with that?
YesSure, he wins he can say what he wants. Nobody cares what losers have to say
You mean he doesn’t share your views.Hes not. Hes grossly under informed on topics he speaks on.
I think it's pretty F-ing sad that this is our first ncaa tourney in 30 yrs and this is all our fanbase is talking out. Really deflates the magic out of it.
I blame Pike. The best I felt about the basketball team last year was right before Pike felt he needed to criticize Schiano for making contract demands. The attitude starts from the top - winning is not the focus. Extraneous bullshit is the focus and Geo has been sulking all season. These kids are worried about everything but winning.
It’ll create super teams and a two tier system with basically pro college teams and everyone else. It benefits the heck for the college kids so I get why they like it but it’ll make it much less interesting when Duke and the rest just dominate always. I’m for them getting money but put up guard rails is all I’m saying or else Rutgers will never have a chance to ever get into an NCAA again. We’d be in the also ran category.
This! They likely have a lot of free time. So he is taking some time to tweet something. I do not see how this will affect his or his teams play.Who cares, you know it's possible for him to feel strongly about this and play his heart out Friday.
At the end of the day the argument comes down to the fact that their are systemic injustices with the current model. Player + University creates tangible value. University can monetize this without restriction and transfer this value to coaches, administrators and others that support the real asset (the players). Player in essence must surrender their identity for that education (which in essence is a violation of Sherman antitrust). Some do not want to acknowledge that and do not want status quo interrupted (shoutout to Mark Emmert), as then the balance of power would shift ever so slightly. Are we just afraid the entire house of cards comes tumbling down? Are their other undertones to this debate? We are ok with Calipari & K cashing checks at every turn & Athletic depts outsourcing agencies to further monetize these 'programs' (hi IMG! - or Michigan State Bball presented by Rocket Mortgage), but lets all get up in arms for allowing a kid to make a couple grand leveraging their identity & skills they have worked their entire life building.
Everyone gets to play in the free market capitalism game except those creating the value. I get it now...
Not the college paying the players directly. But you could easily have a basketball player give a speech or host to camp and a donor pays a half $1 million to host at camp or that speech wink wink. Who has the richest donors that care the most about basketball and football Duke Oklahoma Alabama etc. You create 20 teams that are basically the Yankees of college sports and then everybody else that system sounds like it sucksWe have super teams now
Paying players directly is a bit different discussion but if it were to happen they aren’t going to spend more money than they have either. Eventually the value proposition will change. Clemson can’t pay the 85th most important player on the roster more than Baylor can pay their 10th most important player
Why can’t these players go play in the G league and then go to school as an academic to get their degree? Clearly they can get paid but then they would have to pay their own way through college. Wouldn’t that be another solution?
No, Ive actually dm’d with him back and forth. He actually dm’d me first out of the blue without me even talking with him on twitter. He’s not very informed on a lot of the topics he talks about. He claims to be naive about it but thats just a cover up for not wanting to take the medicine of his news sources being trash aka tweets of randoms and celebsYou mean he doesn’t share your views.
But coaches, schools, outside agencies all can exploit and monetize it...hmmmNo one is stopping him from going out and making a living in basketball. He just can't do it in college. There are many other avenues.
Wow! Here are those undertones I referenced earlier!Not all, but many of these players across the board would never get into college if not for sports. At least not the ones they are in.
I don’t have a problem with a lot of what Geo says. I have a problem that a couple of the players who are doing it are players who sulked and gave half-assed efforts during a chunk of the season. Perhaps they resented their treatment and it affected their play. It will be interesting to see whether we bring energy tomorrow or whether we quit right out of the gate, like we have in half of our games recently.I blame Pike. The best I felt about the basketball team last year was right before Pike felt he needed to criticize Schiano for making contract demands. The attitude starts from the top - winning is not the focus. Extraneous bullshit is the focus and Geo has been sulking all season. These kids are worried about everything but winning.
And yours and others words on Geo Baker aren't personal attacks? Good lord.
But coaches, schools, outside agencies all can exploit and monetize it...hmmm
Wow! Here are those undertones I referenced earlier!
It’ll create super teams and a two tier system with basically pro college teams and everyone else. It benefits the heck for the college kids so I get why they like it but it’ll make it much less interesting when Duke and the rest just dominate always. I’m for them getting money but put up guard rails is all I’m saying or else Rutgers will never have a chance to ever get into an NCAA again. We’d be in the also ran category.
Nice things cost money. You get what you pay for.exactly, we are ranked pretty low in terms of alumni donations.
Why would anyone at that point watch inferior pro players?It’ll create super teams and a two tier system with basically pro college teams and everyone else. It benefits the heck for the college kids so I get why they like it but it’ll make it much less interesting when Duke and the rest just dominate always. I’m for them getting money but put up guard rails is all I’m saying or else Rutgers will never have a chance to ever get into an NCAA again. We’d be in the also ran category.
Why? What’s wrong with now? And I’m not understanding what you mean by “place”. What place do you mean?It's very disappointing that he picked this time and place for this.
I wish he spent every second living and breathing basketball