Greg Schiano: Rutgers football is closing in on a time when fans can ‘plan their holiday trips around our bowls’

[LotusAggressor]

I’m so tired of responding to you and your Clown posts 🤡. If facilities aren’t important , why is USC spending $300M+ on new facilities? Why is Miami spending something similar? And these schools spend more on NIL than just about everyone!

Of course the Maryland coach can say that facilities are not important, now that he has them. People are wondering why he hasn’t been more successful, after they blew $300M in new facilities.

We need a brand new facility of our own, which is why it’s going to be built.

If USC and Miami are spending 600 million on facilities, that implies that their facilities have been inadequate for a long time. Despite that, these 2 programs have won 7 National Championships between them in the last several decades. Problems at USC and Miami are never about talent or facilities. They're about coaching. When they hire the right coaches, they win big. Lincoln Riley wwas 11-3 despite USC's crappy facilities. Miami has underachieved for the last 2 decades because none of the coaches they hired were as good as Dennis Erickson, Butch Davis, Jimmy Johnson, and Howard Schnellenberger.

 

[rutgersal]

If USC and Miami are spending 600 million on facilities, that implies that their facilities have been inadequate for a long time. Despite that, these 2 programs have won 7 National Championships between them in the last several decades. Problems at USC and Miami are never about talent or facilities. They're about coaching. When they hire the right coaches, they win big. Lincoln Riley wwas 11-3 despite USC's crappy facilities. Miami has underachieved for the last 2 decades because none of the coaches they hired were as good as Dennis Erickson, Butch Davis, Jimmy Johnson, and Howard Schnellenberger.

No it doesn’t. Miami and USC have had baseline adequate facilities for a long time. Miami built new facilities in the 00’s to get to competitive. Competitive is no longer enough when you’re going after the best recruits. Your facilities need to be competitive with the best which is why Miami and USC are building them.

 

[NickRU714]

Coach Schiano is a football coach, not a magician. He doesn’t have the skillset to bridge the entire resource gap, and neither does anyone else. What he does excel at is talent identification on the defensive side of the ball, and that gap has shrunk considerably this year. Need more offensive talent.

As I said - obviously the resource gap (talent, facilities, NIL) is different depending upon the team.
Not everyone in the conference is OSU or UM.

Just trying to see where Rutgers fits in the Big Ten pecking order on resources - to appropriately set expectations.

Even if we were dead last in resources.
Shouldn’t HC Schiano move us past a couple teams in conference?

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

The resources thing is an excuse. Stop with that, Al. The bottom line is a theres potential for significant improvement in a lot of areas if QB play can be elevated from putrid to servicable game manager level.

The comprehensive stats don’t tell the whole story that the extreme Schiano haters continue to portray. We’re nowhere near where we were under Ash when we rarely could get the ball past the line of scrimmage and constantly faced 3rd and long. Brown got 3+ yards on a very high percentage of 1st and 2nd downs. That’s really promising for us if we can add in a QB who runs, is an occasional deep threat with. Strong arm, and can also complete the simple lateral passes to change things up. We were missing the 3rd piece with Gavin. We got to 3rd and short yardage too many times and didn’t convert either because of penalties or because the defense knew we were going to run up the middle. If we convert even a handful more 3rd and shorts per game that would make a big different for the defense on time of possession. I’m not sure where Gavin is with this and Evan threw too many picks against decent teams to be reliable. If neither steps up it will be another long season. We don’t have elite wide outs either but I don’t think that’s what’s keeping us from being decent. Aaron young is a good receiving back in the short game too. It’s critical that we execute those and I don’t think it’s asking for much. We don’t need a stud. Laviano, Giovanni, etc. Those type guys would make us way better from where we were last year. I think the surrounding cast is much better than getting credit for outside of the receivers.

 

[50 yd line RR]

The resources thing is an excuse. Stop with that, Al. The bottom line is a theres potential for significant improvement in a lot of areas if QB play can be elevated from putrid to servicable game manager level.

The comprehensive stats don’t tell the whole story that the extreme Schiano haters continue to portray. We’re nowhere near where we were under Ash when we rarely could get the ball past the line of scrimmage and constantly faced 3rd and long. Brown got 3+ yards on a very high percentage of 1st and 2nd downs. That’s really promising for us if we can add in a QB who runs, is an occasional deep threat with. Strong arm, and can also complete the simple lateral passes to change things up. We were missing the 3rd piece with Gavin. We got to 3rd and short yardage too many times and didn’t convert either because of penalties or because the defense knew we were going to run up the middle. If we convert even a handful more 3rd and shorts per game that would make a big different for the defense on time of possession. I’m not sure where Gavin is with this and Evan threw too many picks against decent teams to be reliable. If neither steps up it will be another long season. We don’t have elite wide outs either but I don’t think that’s what’s keeping us from being decent. Aaron young is a good receiving back in the short game too. It’s critical that we execute those and I don’t think it’s asking for much. We don’t need a stud. Laviano, Giovanni, etc. Those type guys would make us way better from where we were last year. I think the surrounding cast is much better than getting credit for outside of the receivers.

Nice post!!
These kids have one more year of Jay Butlers training, one more year for the defense to learn the system.One more year of growth and maturity.
I’m hoping captan Kirk can spoon feed this offense to these guys and we can win some games s.
Let’s see what happens!

 

[LotusAggressor]

No it doesn’t. Miami and USC have had baseline adequate facilities for a long time. Miami built new facilities in the 00’s to get to competitive. Competitive is no longer enough when you’re going after the best recruits. Your facilities need to be competitive with the best which is why Miami and USC are building them.

Despite the fact that Miami built new facilities in the 00s, they've been less competitive than they were in the '80s and 90s. That's coaching.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

Nice post!!
These kids have one more year of Jay Butlers training, one more year for the defense to learn the system.One more year of growth and maturity.
I’m hoping captan Kirk can spoon feed this offense to these guys and we can win some games s.
Let’s see what happens!

Yup - all of this. The thing is - every position group is significantly improved from what Schiano inherited except QB. We doubled down on our biggest recruit ever, and so far he hasn’t panned out. We didn’t have much choice but to ride him this year, so it will be what it will be. Recruiting a transfer over our prize recruit who left HS early to play for us just wasn’t happening.

When you look at where Ash was going into his last year, most position groups were a lot worse than what he inherited from Flood. That’s saying on lot on the defensive side where Flood’s whole backfield was wiped out.

It doesn’t matter how much you hate Schiano - there’s no denying how terrible the roster he inherited was. Schiano wasn’t exaggerating what he said about the OL and that wasn’t the only position like that.

 

[Knight Shift]

This thread epitomizes the posts below on X. However, you guys do realize that yessir, shelby are not fans, and you are just feeding the trolls. brg90 is a fan, supposedly, but can't get out of the zone of negativity and have a positive thought once in a while. Sad way to live. Easier to ignore the loser mentality of these posters than continue to engage with them and argue.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

This thread epitomizes the posts below on X. However, you guys do realize that yessir, shelby are not fans, and you are just feeding the trols. brg90 is a fan, supposedly, but can't get out of the zone of negativity and have a positive thought once in a while. Sad way to live. Easier to ignore the loser mentality of these posters than continue to engage with them and argue.

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I think they are fans with agendas. I’m sure if we hired Mike Houston one day yessir would be rooting for us. No idea what Shelby’s deal is. There are 2 extreme views posting here - the reality of where we are is somewhere in the middle.

 

[Pils86]

My sone was friendly with a PSU DL who was from Wisconsin. One day he asked him why he went to PSU instead of Wisky, his answer was the facilities at PSU were much better. Opened my eyes to two things, facilities are a significant factor and we have issues because I assume our facilities are not even as good as Wisky. This was pre NIL so that is a new factor but as we get up to full share we need to invest it in facilities.

 

[Shelby65]

No it doesn’t. Miami and USC have had baseline adequate facilities for a long time. Miami built new facilities in the 00’s to get to competitive. Competitive is no longer enough when you’re going after the best recruits. Your facilities need to be competitive with the best which is why Miami and USC are building them.

Great stuff Fieldhouse Al….not only are you expert about Xs and Os and recruiting, you also study facilities across the country. And all along the rest of us thought you just talk out your ass morning, noon and night. But to expound on facilities too, wow. A savant.

Now that they will be in the same conference soon, I wonder how BYU’s facilities stack up against Cincinnati facilities. I’m sure others are also desperate to know. Can you tell us ?

 

[RUforlife]

This thread epitomizes the posts below on X. However, you guys do realize that yessir, shelby are not fans, and you are just feeding the trolls. brg90 is a fan, supposedly, but can't get out of the zone of negativity and have a positive thought once in a while. Sad way to live. Easier to ignore the loser mentality of these posters than continue to engage with them and argue.

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I didn't realize Rutgers officially put you in charge of determining who is a fan and who is not. Wow, congratulations, by the way, how much does that job pay?

 

[ruinac]

He’s paid to win
It’s year 4

He’s not getting smoked by Maryland bc we don’t have a field house or small NIL $

This isn’t the old big east - were in a league where results are expected

6-6 and bowling is the expectation

Win Wagner, NW, VT, Temple and 2 others

Don’t get completely embarrassed vs Nitts, bucks and Michigan

in a nutshell

A month ago you agreed with JayDog’s comment. Now in the go 6-6 or beat PSU poll you have strongly made the point that it’s better to beat PSU and go 5-7 than lose to PSU and go 6-6. Honest question since you seem to know your sports; What changed your mind?

 

[rutgersal]

My sone was friendly with a PSU DL who was from Wisconsin. One day he asked him why he went to PSU instead of Wisky, his answer was the facilities at PSU were much better. Opened my eyes to two things, facilities are a significant factor and we have issues because I assume our facilities are not even as good as Wisky. This was pre NIL so that is a new factor but as we get up to full share we need to invest it in facilities.

Our facilities are simply not competitive. Even our closest adversary, Maryland has brand new facilities.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Our facilities are simply not competitive. Even our closest adversary, Maryland has brand new facilities.

Where does the 50-50 $ go?
Towards facilities or NIL?

 

[RUBlackout7]

My sone was friendly with a PSU DL who was from Wisconsin. One day he asked him why he went to PSU instead of Wisky, his answer was the facilities at PSU were much better. Opened my eyes to two things, facilities are a significant factor and we have issues because I assume our facilities are not even as good as Wisky. This was pre NIL so that is a new factor but as we get up to full share we need to invest it in facilities.

“This was before NIL” is the only point that matters. Facilities are no longer a factor.

 

[RUTGERS95]

A month ago you agreed with JayDog’s comment. Now in the go 6-6 or beat PSU poll you have strongly made the point that it’s better to beat PSU and go 5-7 than lose to PSU and go 6-6. Honest question since you seem to know your sports; What changed your mind?

I never said 5-7. where did I even intimate a record?

Greg is supposed to win, he's not doing that really. This program needs to have a vision, a strategy for how we get to where we want and we simply don't have that. Beating psu and the Wisconsin regularly should be a priority. Set that goal and work towards it in recruiting, team make up etc etc and things will go where we want.

perception of the program is terrible both at home and in the media. That needs to change and beating up on temple and wagner won't change that. we need to beat psu, we need to beat wisconsin, we need to have competitive games against michigan and osu. We need to stop losing games we shoujld win against iowa and nebraska but psu is the mark, need that mark

 

[RUTGERS95]

My sone was friendly with a PSU DL who was from Wisconsin. One day he asked him why he went to PSU instead of Wisky, his answer was the facilities at PSU were much better. Opened my eyes to two things, facilities are a significant factor and we have issues because I assume our facilities are not even as good as Wisky. This was pre NIL so that is a new factor but as we get up to full share we need to invest it in facilities.

lol, one example and it opened your eyes? You know there are a ton of examples that counter this so will you open them wider?

 

[Knight Shift]

We should have and still can hire Mike Houston. I have not shut up about this for 4 years. Attainable, east coast, turned around now 4 separate programs as a HC, currently making $1.25 million a year…. There’s our coach. I’ve been saying it for years

Well, he's available now!



Shoutout to @rutgersal and @colbert17

 

[mdk01]

Well, he's available now!

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Oops?

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Well.. this necro-bump fooled me when I saw it dredged back up. But I don't think you need to repeat this as each potential savior/hot coach goes cadaver-cold.

 

[Knight Shift]

Well.. this necro-bump fooled me when I saw it dredged back up. But I don't think you need to repeat this as each potential savior/hot coach goes cadaver-cold.

Another flavor of the week/month/year gone sour.
I'm not giving up on Greg. But he needs to change things up and work some magic.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Another flavor of the week/month/year gone sour.
I'm not giving up on Greg. But he needs to change things up and work some magic.

I hesitate to say this because it can fuel the haters. I don't know Schiano.. but I suspect he needs a little self-reflection and humility at this time. He does so much "right".. he makes the whole program better.. obviously. The "system" behind running a clean program that competes.

I'd hate to risk that in order to try the latest flavor. And yet, before GS was available to us.. way back when we found out we got stuck with Flodd because of Barchi and budget and whining academic union mouthpieces and their handlers in the media.. I suggested we try folks like Cognetti.. lower-level head coaches and even OCs (like Chip Kelly once was) and pay them modestly and have tight contracts with low payouts and rinse and repeat head coaches until we found a real winner.

I didn't think we'd be risking much with the downward spiral we were in. And, clearly, getting VIP recommendations to hire Ash.. a top program coordinator from the Big Ten, well, that did not go well.

But I'd hate to risk what Schiano built this time for that. And I certainly wouldn't want to overspend and over-commit on "a sure thing" that never was, given how unique Rutgers is.

But it does look like we need some positive change. And I hope GS can see that. if his confidence is based on his ability to make those changes.. that's great. but if his confidence is based on.. well.. blind confidence that he does things right so we're alright. Well, I don't know about that.

But there's a lot of football yet to be played.. and a whole month that has generally been unkind to Rutgers Football.. let's see how the team responds.. within its capabilities.

 

[yessir321]

Well, he's available now!

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You're actually trying to brag about Schiano right now? lol

I'm glad you tagged Al, need a welfare check on the guy. I'm worried after the UCLA debacle and our fanbase shifting the narrative around his boyfriend, Greg, he's ready to throw himself off the Verrazano.

I mean this from the bottom of my heart, if you are single, and you find someone who loves you the way RutgersAl loves Schiano, Marry that person

 

[Knight Shift]

You're actually trying to brag about Schiano right now? lol

I'm glad you tagged Al, need a welfare check on the guy. I'm worried after the UCLA debacle and our fanbase shifting the narrative around his boyfriend, Greg, he's ready to throw himself off the Verrazano.

I mean this from the bottom of my heart, if you are single, and you find someone who loves you the way RutgersAl loves Schiano, Marry that person

Nobody is bragging about Schiano, you deflecting dipshit.
You are a warped loser, Penn State fan.

 

[yessir321]

Nobody is bragging about Schiano, you deflecting dipshit.
You are a warped loser, Penn State fan.

Whatever helps you sleep at night Sadexcuse fan. You dug up an artical from how long ago? How much mental real estate you giving me homie? lol.

"I don't like your takes so I'll call you a fan of another team!" lol lazy argument. LOSER who bought into the idea that bringing back a retread coach no one else in the country wanted was a good idea.

 

[Knight Shift]

Well, he's available now!

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Shoutout to @rutgersal and @colbert17

LOL. Mike Houston fired, ECU makes their DC Blake Harrell Head Coach.

First game- rips Temple 56-34
Right now, ECU is up 28-7 against Florida Atlantic