No. I can't condemn him for being caught talking trash in a private conversation while being secretly recorded. it may not be my cup of tea, but "completely worthy of condemnation?" Sorry, but i feel that is a bit extreme. It's faux outrage. I mean, has aNY opinion maker condemned Hillary for intimidating her sexual predator husband's victims yet? I save my condemnations for things like illegally selling political influence for personal gain. Especially where that includes sales of weapons to unfriendly countries, which will ultimately be used to kill Americans. I'll stop because this is a tangent to the thread. we could engage on CE if you care to continue the conversation.