She could but only one could double her salary.
Hobbs under investigation for inappropriate consensual relationship
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I only hope Rutgers is smart about this. If it were truly consensual, Hobbs is already gone. They should do some sort of penalty on any money still owed to Hobbs. I do not believe they can actually do anything to the gymnastics coach though but she obviously benefitted.
But in no way should Rutgers take any type of self imposed penalty unless they discover something deeper then what we now know.
But knowing how we work, I see us self imposing a Scholership penalty and other stupid shit worse than what schools like MSU had done for having a member rape hundreds of young gymnasts over decades.
But in no way should Rutgers take any type of self imposed penalty unless they discover something deeper then what we now know.
But knowing how we work, I see us self imposing a Scholership penalty and other stupid shit worse than what schools like MSU had done for having a member rape hundreds of young gymnasts over decades.
The only thing rutgers or anyone that does care about is number 3.
If this was the gymnastics coach at Piscataway high , it’s a non-story and his heart is fine.
The gymnastics coach got the power now. Who knows what she said in the initial interviews when this was getting investigated , but I gotta think this is a pretty easy sexual harassment claim against Rutgers. She can always walk back intitial statements because of pressure , livelihood etc
Gotcha I didn’t know it was the gymnastics coach. I suppose they tried to keep it a secret.
Yes , I think this is what happened. He knew he was gonna get fired …eventually. So he checked out and said catch me if you can
Not only that, but 1 and 2 should not even be on the list. I've never cheated on my wife and never will, but 2 adults in a consentual relationship regardless of marital status is a big nothing burger. Sleeping with a subordinate however and the actions around that is the issue at hand.
Unless Holloway knew about and tried to push under the rug. Some folks are going down here.
A little surprised this wasn't asked sooner in the thread. Like Mrs. Screw says, when a person in a supervisory capacity has a sexual romantic or otherwise inappropriate relationship with a subordinate even if the subordinate says the relaionship is consensual and he/she wanted to do it. These kinds of relationships are verboten across academia and are part of sexual misconduct policies. For the Title IX or HR office is it easier to find a boss like Hobbs in violation of a consensual policy than in a non-consensual situation where you have to gather all kinds of proof the harassment occured and whether the conduct pass muster with the various legal theories and tests. This type of misconduct also applies to faculty having consesual relationships with PhD and Masters candidates they advise because these types of relationships are viewed as ultimately harmful to the subordinate (exploiting the "power differential" in academic jargon) as these relationship go south many times and the subordinate ends up going to the Title IX or HR office to complain about the boss or advisor.
This type of infraction doesn't usually end up with the supervisory offender going to the so-called sensitivity training, going on a apology tour and callling it a day. They are usually terminated, forced to resign or retire and at some schools, if it's faculty they could even have tenure revoked. Nothing usually happens officially to the consenting subordinate, but can't imagine the coach hanging on much longer for practical purposes.
Doubt the coach complained unless Hobbs did something shady to her. It probably came up when the gymnasts complained and revealed the relationship.
Bottom line: "Don't poop where you eat" - American proverb.
Seems silly to "investigate" someone who no longer works for you.
What's the point? What are they going to do ... fire him?
What's the point? What are they going to do ... fire him?
Oh look, yet another gossip mob thread celebrating a “scandal” (of a consensual relationship) to drool over. Yay.
I posted before, the fact Hobbs acted just before season seemed sus and a duress move.
Newer articles not only highlight the reli but the fact that gymnasts had been complaining about Hobbs and the coach.
I bet the problems and any potential lawsuits have admins concerned about more than the reli.
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Newer articles not only highlight the reli but the fact that gymnasts had been complaining about Hobbs and the coach.
I bet the problems and any potential lawsuits have admins concerned about more than the reli.
Rutgers gymnastics program was riddled with complaints before AD Pat Hobbs departed
Rutgers gymnasts describe a program in chaos, plagued by allegations of favoritism, bullying and revenge by coach Umme Salim-Beasley
She’s also no prize…a gymnast so probably flexible and maybe that made his aging as feel better and she’s well stacked in the mammary area but woof otherwise. Finally, if you’re making a retirement move under the cover of cardiac issues, it seems sex with a gymnast would be a bad move.
This is a move Urban Meyer would approve
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I don’t know her age but assuming in the low mid 40’s. And not sure if you only go by what you see in magazines or only fans- but the woman may not be a model but very far from being “woof” - not sure if you get out much and see what the average human(make or female) look like
Obviously Schiano's ulterior motive was to make Pat retire so Tim would come back and football would rule the roost again when it came to the funds being allotted to RU Athletic programs
Maybe Greg did the mixing and matching of the participants to get the ball rolling , then told his friends Josh and Ted about Hobbs' extracurricular gymnastics on the love mat that Schiano put in place
Maybe the reason Hobbs left Seton Hall was all the women there were to ugly to have an affair with .
I understand the residents of South Orange Village consider a trip to 400 S Orange Ave better than a cold shower when they are in heat.
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Looking at it objectively ….probably no way hobbs scores high on the floor excercise here if he’s not her boss.
Umm, no to all of that. Are you joking? A penalty for an internal personnel matter? Pat took his penalty in resigning. There is little else Rutgers can do to him.
Well now an external investigation into the gymastics program ( get the free nj.com Rutgers app and read the article there for free no paywall)
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Rutgers President Jonathan Holloway calls for external investigation into gymnastics program
Rutgers University has opened an external investigation into its gymnastics program following an NJ Advance Media investigation.
I said it was exactly what it was when Joey Bags asked the question.
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Rutgers athletic director Pat Hobbs abruptly resigns
He’d have a special benefit package and might still be able to keep it after he retires. So contemplating his wife’s benefits doesn’t get us anywhere. Health insurance benefits would be the least of his worries (plus he can presumably use his wife's). Otherwise their dual incomes can easily...
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Good riddance to the adulterer!
Never forget that he didn’t want Schiano, fought like hell not to have him, and only caved through a massive fan/donor campaign
The guy just blamed his adultery on a heart condition! Shows his integrity
Especially after rumors from his previous stint before Rutgers
If reports are true that it’s Salim-Beasley, she and NFL player Aaron Beasley had 3 children
Maybe this is why Pat escaped to Italy 🤔
Never forget that he didn’t want Schiano, fought like hell not to have him, and only caved through a massive fan/donor campaign
The guy just blamed his adultery on a heart condition! Shows his integrity
Especially after rumors from his previous stint before Rutgers
If reports are true that it’s Salim-Beasley, she and NFL player Aaron Beasley had 3 children
Maybe this is why Pat escaped to Italy 🤔
Here's an inappropriate consensual relationship.
71 year old. guy spiking his wife's drink in cooperation with wife's daughter so the old dude could marry the daughter. The heart wants what the heart wants. 71- As Rambo said. . .
71 year old. guy spiking his wife's drink in cooperation with wife's daughter so the old dude could marry the daughter. The heart wants what the heart wants. 71- As Rambo said. . .
Husband admits adding cocaine, MDMA to wife's Cokes in hopes he would marry her daughter
Alfred Ruf, 71, was sentenced to four years in prison after admitting to poisoning his wife by spiking her Coca-Cola with cocaine and other drugs.
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You win! Cringiest post on the thread!!🥳
Yeah but who knows how Hobbs contract is worded . There might be some legal recourse for rutgers to take if it wants. But hobbs is a lawyer and I am sure has gotten some good legal advice from old buddies (most lawyers are really smart people ! )
Hobbs is a lawyer that helped draft the contracts. He knows exactly what outs there are. He wouldn’t need counsel. He is counsel.
A lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client
This could be a legendary post. But it should have been more along the lines of Hobbs will get himself jobbed if he represented himself. Or something like that.
If all of this is true, or even partially true, it explains why administration and high profile coaches have been silent in regards to praise for Mr. Hobbs.
Is everything a conspiracy with you? Just curious.
Agreed. Not saying he wouldn’t seek outside counsel. But he created the contracts so he knows what’s in them and can help craft the defense and knows all loopholes.
Rutgers needs to come clean on the Patrick Hobbs mess — and that starts at the top | Politi
The athletic director was under investigation for an improper relationship when he resigned.
I keep saying it. These buffoons won’t stop. If Holloway knew he was having an affair ( I suspect he did,) and knew there were claims about this coach (which he probably did), how do we view Holloway letting Hobbs attempt to save face. Personally, I don’t care. Hobbs resigned or was forced out. But the media is going to keep going after the biggest scalp
