Yeah, I don't think anyone is ever going to confuse the ACC Atlantic division for the B1G East division.
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Yeah, I don't think anyone is ever going to confuse the ACC Atlantic division for the B1G East division.
Yes, low bar. Which is why people didn’t recognize what Tennessee and Ohio St did.
Compare what is going on in Piscataway with the turnarounds at Illinois, Maryland, Kansas or Washington.
We cant get/cant develop a QB. It all starts there. After Nova we have not seen a capable P5 QB here. Atleast not playing at that level!
BS. Oregon State was bad. Really bad, but they were never Ash awful. They lost a lot of games but the scores were’t nearly as lopsided. I love what Smith is doing there, but tell me how he did his third year.
Sorry, you're a friggin' idiot if you believe this.
We won't mind if you go root for someone else...another dumb post...
Wake Forest is in a state with two other ACC programs, both of which compete for talent and are more desirable. Rutgers has no in state competition. It is what it is. People expecting different results from Schiano this time around will probably be disappointed.
Chris Laviano says hello.
So does Cole Snyder 20/29 for 297 yards last night 2TDs, 0 INT, 35 rushing yards and 2 rushing TDs and 50 points of offense under a first year coach.
That's one of the issues. If you have a QB competition every summer you ain't got a quarterback.
That’s quite true. I was being unfair to compare them literally to the Ash teams. But they were very bad. I remain less sanguine about RU’s resurgence.
They ran for like 125 yards. That’s not too bad for our run D
In 2019, Illinois, Maryland, and Kansas were only slightly worse than we are now. Washington was pretty good.
We just need an average D1 QB. Not good, just average and we will be a perennial bowl team with 6-8 wins.
for anyone to believe we need long time for rebuild is beyond absurd. For anyone not to see that the coaching staff is failing is beyond ignorant, For anyone to fail to see that the inability to have a functioning offense with qb's that are developed as anything other than abject failure on Greg's part is beyond homerism. Too many settle for less or make excuses, shame on you because you're fking pathetic. Demand more, get more
Ive been called worse, all good.
Sticking by my guns though. This “rebuild” should t be this hard.
It could be worse guys. What if we hired someone like Mario Cristobal? He just lost to Middle Tennessee State and he inherited elite talent, elite coaching salary pools, elite donor support, and he gets to play against inferior competition. I’d say we dodged a bullet and are lucky to have the program we do!
The OC knows how To draw up a high scoring offense. He’s just needs the right gun slinger. They are out there, just have to entice one to come for a season to get the ball rolling.
Wake has the money and is lucky enough to have a great coach, a great AD(thanks to Tenn), and a president that supports athletics. A lot of people know Wake is the smallest school in P5 but don’t know Wake has the second best facility in ACC.
What I'm wondering is if Schiano isn't getting the support he needs from the AD.
Does anyone else think it's possible that our AD is hurting us with recruiting?
Financial perspective?
I was wondering when we can see the master plans of the field house, SHI renovation, and RAC renovation. It’s been years.
When Wake hired Susan Wente, a lot of fans were concerned that a female president from Vandy might not be very supportive to the athletics programs. But wow. She went to games, rode on the Deacon motorcycle several times, and went to several road game pep rally.
Given all the potential player movement, which admittedly works both ways, the window for building a program should be shorter than GS 1.0.
Mario Cristobal vs Kyle Flood circa 2012. Who knows, but I think Mario might’ve been better for the program.
Yeah, lessons learned like checking a coeds oil in a bar are not the lessons that will help on the gridiron.
OP, 0-4 would be bad and hopeless. We are currently 3-1 and not 0-4. Take a chill pill.
I'd of taken Mario here although Kyle could coach gameday pretty well. Kyle is a good coach, not a headcoach
I think if that was the case then GS would walk away and either go somewhere else to coach defense or get into consulting .
#4 Michigan 34 vs Maryland 27
#14 Penn St 33 Central Michigan 14
Minnesota 34 Michigan St. 7
Cincinnati. 45 Indiana 24
Iowa. 27 Rutgers 10
#3 Ohio St 52 vs Wisconsin 21
Purdue 28, FAU 26
Miami (OH) 17, Northwestern 14
Middle Tennessee 44 Miami 31
#14 Penn St 33 Central Michigan 14
Minnesota 34 Michigan St. 7
Cincinnati. 45 Indiana 24
Iowa. 27 Rutgers 10
#3 Ohio St 52 vs Wisconsin 21
Purdue 28, FAU 26
Miami (OH) 17, Northwestern 14
Middle Tennessee 44 Miami 31
It’s been noted a bunch in this thread and I agree, qb play continues to be a problem area.
But i think the answer, at least in the near term needs to be Wimsatt. Transfer portal? We’ve tried that a bunch over the past however many years and the results haven’t been good there either.
Now when can we expect Wimsatt back, and more importantly when can we expect him to bring a positive impact?
Really, this is just dumb, let’s ignore the facts and demonstrate a clear understanding that that we don’t understand what it takes to build a program that the previous two coaches totally ran into the ground.
Ohio state, Michigan, Penn st. And Wisconsin have 5 years rosters of primarily 4, some 5 and some high 3 star recruits on there rosters, why because they are established programs with tradition and continuity. We are trying to establish a tradition, and build continuity, not to mention turn over a roster that severely lacked talent. Even if Schiano could recruit on par with those teams, he would still be 3 or more years behind the talent curve, he must build a winning culture, establish a tradition and recruit on par with the upper level and of course they will “wait” for us to catch up,
The next level of the Big includes the Iowa’s and Minnesota’s that have established a tradition and built continuity, they know who they are, and what they are will be reasonably good year over year.
The rest of the league is trying to figure out a way to at least get into the middle of the pack with there 3 star rosters with a handful of 4 stars sprinkled in.
Schiano is making progress, we have a pretty good defense the offense is clearly not there yet, we have little room for error like three turnovers two which went for scores.
Would we like to see this move faster absolutely but nobody is coming to RU and going to be a top tier program in 2-3 years.
So let’s not ignore reality, and yes Ihio st. Will probably hang 50 on us next weekend just like they did to Wisc last night. Hopefully the ramp up will be move a little faster, but we are not going to wake up tomorrow and play toe to toe with OSU, Mich, PSU in our division
Ohio state, Michigan, Penn st. And Wisconsin have 5 years rosters of primarily 4, some 5 and some high 3 star recruits on there rosters, why because they are established programs with tradition and continuity. We are trying to establish a tradition, and build continuity, not to mention turn over a roster that severely lacked talent. Even if Schiano could recruit on par with those teams, he would still be 3 or more years behind the talent curve, he must build a winning culture, establish a tradition and recruit on par with the upper level and of course they will “wait” for us to catch up,
The next level of the Big includes the Iowa’s and Minnesota’s that have established a tradition and built continuity, they know who they are, and what they are will be reasonably good year over year.
The rest of the league is trying to figure out a way to at least get into the middle of the pack with there 3 star rosters with a handful of 4 stars sprinkled in.
Schiano is making progress, we have a pretty good defense the offense is clearly not there yet, we have little room for error like three turnovers two which went for scores.
Would we like to see this move faster absolutely but nobody is coming to RU and going to be a top tier program in 2-3 years.
So let’s not ignore reality, and yes Ihio st. Will probably hang 50 on us next weekend just like they did to Wisc last night. Hopefully the ramp up will be move a little faster, but we are not going to wake up tomorrow and play toe to toe with OSU, Mich, PSU in our division
Geez-a loss to an Iowa team with a solid D after two bad turnover scrores and the program is horrible?
Many either have forgotten or really didnt have the capcity to contemplate how bad the Ash years were and how non competitive things were.
Many either have forgotten or really didnt have the capcity to contemplate how bad the Ash years were and how non competitive things were.
