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How is all that b10 $$$ working out for us?

It's actually working out well in most other sports
For the first decade in the league, our overall team's winning percentage was around 25 %
Now, it's significantly higher, and continuing to improve

Regarding football, which has the most amount of scholarships, along with a pedestrian history and revenues less than every other team in the conference, the path to perineal success has much more of an uphill climb

Hence, the need for NIL is of upmost importance
 
Where is this joke you speak of? All I see is a 6-5 record so far.

I am hard of reading and thinking critically though, so please be sure to break this down as simple as possible for me.
 
Considering that even 3 years ago our payout was less than Big12 teams, I think it's going awesome .. in 18 months we will finally get a payout that actually makes a clear difference.
 
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it’s a good debate
Not really, we've taken a big step up in competition, were getting a 1/4 to 1/3 share for 6 yrs. and are still paying back loans to the B1G and are now competing. No one is calling us a joke any longer. If not for a boneheaded coaching decision, coupled with a fluke, we would be the talk of the town today. We had a Top 25 team on the ropes, just 5 yrs. ago that was unheard of.
 
Okay.. why don't we see Politti and other NJ writers call for the general public and businesses in NJ to support a Rutgers NIL?

INFORM them this is the first opportunity where they can create a winning top-level college sports program to NJ to be enjoyed by its residents and sons and daughters just like other states do.
 
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Not really, we've taken a big step up in competition, were getting a 1/4 to 1/3 share for 6 yrs. and are still paying back loans to the B1G and are now competing. No one is calling us a joke any longer. If not for a boneheaded coaching decision, coupled with a fluke, we would be the talk of the town today. We had a Top 25 team on the ropes, just 5 yrs. ago that was unheard of.
Yeah If the mission of the university is to not be a joke in football.
 
Not really, we've taken a big step up in competition, were getting a 1/4 to 1/3 share for 6 yrs. and are still paying back loans to the B1G and are now competing. No one is calling us a joke any longer. If not for a boneheaded coaching decision, coupled with a fluke, we would be the talk of the town today. We had a Top 25 team on the ropes, just 5 yrs. ago that was unheard of.
Okay, but after ten years in the B10, it would be nice to actually win a game against a ranked team instead of just keeping it close.
 
Okay.. why don't we see Politti and other NJ writers call for the general public and businesses in NJ to support a Rutgers NIL?

INFORM them this is the first opportunity where they can create a winning top-level college sports program to NJ to be enjoyed by its residents and sons and daughters just like other states do.
Yea I’m sure people already burdened by high taxes will jump at the chance lol
 
Yea I’m sure people already burdened by high taxes will jump at the chance lol
It cannot hurt, can it?

Point was, they love to point out problems.. they never point to solutions.. to what is possible.

They will discuss how our NIL is a pittance compared to others, but won't suggest that could change if everyone took some amount of pride of ownership of their flagship state U like other states residents and businesses do.

What is so wrong about New Jersey that the citizens and business interests cannot match the support of ANY of the flyover states for MULTIPLE state universities?

How about stopping the graft and corruption that the politicos and connected bank on and maybe then the people can choose where their money goes.
 
It's actually working out well in most other sports
For the first decade in the league, our overall team's winning percentage was around 25 %
Now, it's significantly higher, and continuing to improve

Regarding football, which has the most amount of scholarships, along with a pedestrian history and revenues less than every other team in the conference, the path to perineal success has much more of an uphill climb

Hence, the need for NIL is of upmost importance
Excuse me...perineal success? That "taint" what you mean surely.
 
It cannot hurt, can it?

Point was, they love to point out problems.. they never point to solutions.. to what is possible.

They will discuss how our NIL is a pittance compared to others, but won't suggest that could change if everyone took some amount of pride of ownership of their flagship state U like other states residents and businesses do.

What is so wrong about New Jersey that the citizens and business interests cannot match the support of ANY of the flyover states for MULTIPLE state universities?

How about stopping the graft and corruption that the politicos and connected bank on and maybe then the people can choose where their money goes.
Citizens of the great state of New Jersey are about to cough up $9 more per trip into Manhattan south of 60th Street, plus whatever the official toll hike is going to be plus the annual gas tax hike. Gee, I wonder why we have no extra $$$ for niceties like NIL for our StateU football team.
 
We are still a joke in sports.
Please go back to Penn State. Given your history PSU should not be lecturing any other schools. The president of FSU had the best comment when they had a drinking and frat related death a number of years ago. In a press conference he said "we are not going to handle this like Penn State". So please, go away.
 
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Citizens of the great state of New Jersey are about to cough up $9 more per trip into Manhattan south of 60th Street, plus whatever the official toll hike is going to be plus the annual gas tax hike. Gee, I wonder why we have no extra $$$ for niceties like NIL for our StateU football team.
I can solve that for u don’t go to Manhattan unless for work
 
It cannot hurt, can it?

Point was, they love to point out problems.. they never point to solutions.. to what is possible.

They will discuss how our NIL is a pittance compared to others, but won't suggest that could change if everyone took some amount of pride of ownership of their flagship state U like other states residents and businesses do.

What is so wrong about New Jersey that the citizens and business interests cannot match the support of ANY of the flyover states for MULTIPLE state universities?

How about stopping the graft and corruption that the politicos and connected bank on and maybe then the people can choose where their money goes.
You can see fans on this board that don’t go to the games or donate. They might watch the game on TV. All they do is complain. How do you expect casual fans to donate?

On the Syracuse board if you complain a few times you’re banned from the site.
 
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it’s a good debate
No, it's really not. Not in a forum dedicated to discussion among RU sports fans.

A thread titled "how do we win more regularly" is a good debate when posted by an actual RU sports fan. That's not this.

This thread is just trolling, like the asshat that started trolling us towards the end of the football in-game thread on Saturday, and the fact that people are even responding to these trolls in any serious way, let alone defending them, gives it exactly what it craves.
 
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Okay.. why don't we see Politti and other NJ writers call for the general public and businesses in NJ to support a Rutgers NIL?

INFORM them this is the first opportunity where they can create a winning top-level college sports program to NJ to be enjoyed by its residents and sons and daughters just like other states do.
If you look at other big college sport states the media, business, etc. are conditioned to do that and first backup their state teams. Politi and NJ media all think their responsibility is to attack where and whenever they can...and it's not just about Rutgers...it's the way the media works here in NJ on just about everything. I've been doing a lot of traveling to other college games. This year I went to 2 LSU games (and no, I do not like B Kelly or LSU...last year I want to a Clemson game...just road trips I take with my brother and friends). Not only do the media get behind them but Local Businesses even more so. I went to the Ole Miss at LSU game wearing my Rutgers jersey and hat...I got invited into multiple tailgates. The tailgate I last stuck with was run by a guy that owns 7 restaurants in Louisiana. I got into a good conversation with him at the end of the tailgate...since I was wondering how much he spent on meats and seafood. It was about $8k...but he didn't pay a dime. He told his supplier that he wanted the supplier to donate about $14k worth of food. The supplier gave him $8k (but to keep it hush in his supplier community). They do the same with NIL, etc. It stems from our fanbase, fanbase entrepreneur's demanding from their suppliers, etc. First of all, I know our fanbase isn't conditioned to request local businesses / suppliers contribute. Up until recently, we weren't even conditioned to donate $s for our seats. When you look at it, we have a large alumni base. Our base stretches into major business in the NYC market, Philly market, etc. Some of those alumni are involved in major marketing and advertising companies in NYC. Our university academics and athletics should be joining forces to reach out to alumni in such fields to 'grease the skids' a bit. It's happening elsewhere...it can happen here...it's just that we're not conditioned to do it and we need to learn how to get that together and make it happen. The conditioning here is not just about athletics, or our fan base but the reach from them to others. When I went to the VT game, I met a very well known VT staff that's been there since the 60s and been featured in TED talks, etc. Although he hasn't typically attended the football games recently (especially as he's gotten older), he was a proponent of the athletic / academic alignment to grow their university together. I told him next time we come down that we'll reach out to him to have him come tailgate with us. I could see the thought of it lit a bit of a fire in him...and he'd jump on it again. Back to my point...here in NJ, we not only need to condition the fan base, but we need the fan base to condition their contacts, especially entrepreneurs that have access to other business / business suppliers, alumni that have access to functions that can drive NIL and even demand it. An RU alumni in the advertising industry needs to step up and demand they include some Rutgers players in an advertisement such that they get paid. There are plenty of advertisements that pick a random unknown talent to use. Well...how about paying a football player to use his name, image and likeness...or a Wrestler, etc. I'm not sure how to get the media into the program moreso, but there has got to be some smart alumni from our Comms school that can help assess and take that on.
 
Yes it's a real debate alright

If you told people in 2012 on this board that:

- We'd be bowl eligible in back to back years in the Big Ten
- We'd have a top 10 class in football and top 2 in MBB
- We've made 2 tournament appearances with a third only missing because of a global crisis
- We'd be ranked #41 nationally academically and top 15 public school

They'd have given their left nut for it

And they'd laugh off people bellyaching like they are now

Give me a break
 
A significant problem with this board: Troll = criticism of our athletic department.

The entry into the B10 was supposed to fill the coffers of our athletic department so that we could be competitive, not elite, but competitive in the revenue sports...the ones that really matter. I do not have to say anything about FB or WBB. MBB is better, but no Tourney in three years, so that is trending down. We also kept an athletic director spending most of his time at women's gymnastics tournaments. How long did that go on until he got canned? Now, we have to wait for a new president and a new AD. Do you honestly see a real path to how our revenue sports will be competitive within the next 3-5 years?
 
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A significant problem with this board: Troll = criticism of our athletic department.

The entry into the B10 was supposed to fill the coffers of our athletic department so that we could be competitive, not elite, but competitive in the revenue sports...the ones that really matter. I do not have to say anything about FB or WBB. MBB is better, but no Tourney in three years, so that is trending down. We also kept an athletic director spending most of his time at women's gymnastics tournaments. How long did that go on until he got canned? Now, we have to wait for a new president and a new AD. Do you honestly see a real path to how our revenue sports will be competitive within the next 3-5 years?

The implication is we'd be better off in another conference which is moronic. With Ash we were losing to Buffalo and Kansas.

The conference money isn't the problem. We rank last in the B1G in NIL, but are a middle of the pack team, so we are actually overperforming.

And we were in the tourney in 22.

So yes it's a troll.

Neither GS nor Pike is getting fired this year given their history here, whether the AD/Prez situation was different or not, nor should they be.

So yes, it's a troll, and a terrible one.
 
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A significant problem with this board: Troll = criticism of our athletic department.

The entry into the B10 was supposed to fill the coffers of our athletic department so that we could be competitive, not elite, but competitive in the revenue sports...the ones that really matter. I do not have to say anything about FB or WBB. MBB is better, but no Tourney in three years, so that is trending down. We also kept an athletic director spending most of his time at women's gymnastics tournaments. How long did that go on until he got canned? Now, we have to wait for a new president and a new AD. Do you honestly see a real path to how our revenue sports will be competitive within the next 3-5 years?
Umm, I hate the break the news to you, but we ARE competitive. The outcome of Saturday’s game versus Illinois was a gut punch and there is lots to critique, but the game was super competitive against a ranked conference opponent. Basketball will be interesting this year if nothing else, and while the loss to Kennesaw St sucks, it’s by no means dooms the season. WBB is a dumpster fire, I’ll give you that.

Let’s be honest — your posting history isn’t on your side. You come here at down moments and spam the board with negative threads.
 
Umm, I hate the break the news to you, but we ARE competitive. The outcome of Saturday’s game versus Illinois was a gut punch and there is lots to critique, but the game was super competitive against a ranked conference opponent. Basketball will be interesting this year if nothing else, and while the loss to Kennesaw St sucks, it’s by no means dooms the season. WBB is a dumpster fire, I’ll give you that.

Let’s be honest — your posting history isn’t on your side. You come here at down moments and spam the board with negative threads.
While you are correct, he's a troll and doesn't care. Accuracy ain't his concern.
 
A significant problem with this board: Troll = criticism of our athletic department.

The entry into the B10 was supposed to fill the coffers of our athletic department so that we could be competitive, not elite, but competitive in the revenue sports...the ones that really matter. I do not have to say anything about FB or WBB. MBB is better, but no Tourney in three years, so that is trending down. We also kept an athletic director spending most of his time at women's gymnastics tournaments. How long did that go on until he got canned? Now, we have to wait for a new president and a new AD. Do you honestly see a real path to how our revenue sports will be competitive within the next 3-5 years?
Trolling trolling trolling.
 
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