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Is Big Ten buzz wearing off? Rutgers official explains dip in season tickets
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"I don't think the B1G TV schedule helps=noon starts."
Noon starts are here to stay and there's no reason Rutgers can't make them work. People can say they're a cult, but Penn State fans drive across the country to get to the games. If people in New Jersey (who probably live for the most part within 2 hours of the stadium) can't get to games at noon, there's no reason to play big time college football.
Noon starts are here to stay and there's no reason Rutgers can't make them work. People can say they're a cult, but Penn State fans drive across the country to get to the games. If people in New Jersey (who probably live for the most part within 2 hours of the stadium) can't get to games at noon, there's no reason to play big time college football.
Maybe tickets and seat packages should have been lower until we are competitive. Then once there is a glut of season ticket holders, then raise the prices. Raising the prices in the BigTen doesn't make sense until we play good. I'm not a season ticket holder. I went last year with free junior knights tix and my purchased ticket for $30. Yes, three seats in end zone ended only being $30, but this year I could have had really good seats on the side line for $20 each. That to me is great and a better experience.
Ceiling for interest in winning the Big East appeared to be in excess of current stadium capacity, including the expansion.
bought 3 for total of $30
it's quite simple, we suck and the prices are too high
People can lament the time starts, other activities etc etc however, if we have a good product and reasonable price then the stadium is filled
I almost bought season tickets at the 11th hour and availability was excellent
bottom line is if the team is not competitive our fanbase is atrocious..people were spinning that 44K in the building for Iowa is good..well its not, its pathetic, we were getting as many for Cincinnati and Pitt. Our fanbase is 20K diehards, 10K students and then 10K or so average type fans,,,trying to tap into the next 5-10K fans is like trying to tap into Fort Knox. RU relies on opposing teams fans to try and sell the stadium out which will happen with Michigan. It is what it is but our fanbase is not very large or strong
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It was a shortsighted administration felt that they didn't have to invest for the future as well as alumni that wouldn't pony up
It's great to buy a Ferrari - but if you don't service the thing, it's going to turn into a hunk of crap pretty quickly- and then it will cost a multiple of what you would have spent to get it back
it isn't Flood.. I'd be shocked if anybody thought he was capable to run our program
It was a shortsighted administration felt that they didn't have to invest for the future as well as alumni that wouldn't pony up
It's great to buy a Ferrari - but if you don't service the thing, it's going to turn into a hunk of crap pretty quickly- and then it will cost a multiple of what you would have spent to get it back
pretty much and what I've been pounding
GS left at the worst possible time, the school wasn't prepared and had no real plan and that left us with Mr.Personality
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the first year in the big 10 I bought a total of 4 three game packages for a couple of friends.... The second year they asked about buying the Ohio state game individually, and this year the PU game
In both instances they were not willing to pay the dynamic prices ....
I think the prices limit new season ticket holders coming in, as well as individual game purchases...
The university probably would rather have a few empty seats if they can sell a lot of dynamic priced seats.
the first year in the big 10 I bought a total of 4 three game packages for a couple of friends.... The second year they asked about buying the Ohio state game individually, and this year the PU game
In both instances they were not willing to pay the dynamic prices ....
I think the prices limit new season ticket holders coming in, as well as individual game purchases...
The university probably would rather have a few empty seats if they can sell a lot of dynamic priced seats.
You have to be competitive in big games. People WANT to go but they are tired of seeing us get smoked against any big teams we play. That's not entertaining. Think about all the blow out losses at home the past 3 years (and they are likely to continue in 16 and 17 as the staff works their asses off to infuse the program with B1G caliber players.
In a relatively short time - a few years - going to home games has gotten very expensive and the hassles of parking, ingress and egress, all add up to an experience whose worth is questionable. For single games, the general parking experience at the RAC with the lines and the bus rides is not pleasant. This will continue to be true whether or not we are winning.
Joining the Big Ten is a two edge sword. Rutgers will reap benefits, but more fans will choose to comfortably watch games on TV, now that most are televised one way or another.
Hard core tailgaters will probably continue to pay to party.
Joining the Big Ten is a two edge sword. Rutgers will reap benefits, but more fans will choose to comfortably watch games on TV, now that most are televised one way or another.
Hard core tailgaters will probably continue to pay to party.
I am going to be from Missouri on this one. I don't believe it is automatic that if RU turns into a modest winner sellouts will occur with any regularity. Even the NFL is having trouble with attendance. TV's have gotten so good that many are opting to stay versus commit to go out for 7-8 games a year. Certainly winning will help and marquee match ups will become tougher tickets but we have along way to go before there will be any type of waiting list for season ticket. Look how long the Devils were a Stanley Cup contender and their attendance during the regular season was never great. I think Michigan brings many this weekend.
I like when people don't renew. Slowly my group of 8 is beginning to sit together and are inching closer to the 50 yd. line. We've made it to between the 35 and 40 lower tier so far. So you guys keep up those soccer games and dance recitals it's all good business to me and my crew. We get blown out, so what for now, the game just becomes a comedy act then for my crew. We'll be there no matter what, we've seen it all before.(New Hampshire loss) Some day you'll be paying top dollar for one game.
It's amazing to me that no hotel in Rutgers vicinity offers a package that includes a room, tickets to the game, and hotel shuttle transport to and from the stadium. This is exactly what all of us out-of-state alums are looking for. The bigger New Brunswick hotels are still too provincial.
thats not changing..get over it. Everyone hates noon starts but look around the country, some are starting at 11AM....RU played plenty of noon games in its history in the 70s, 80s and 90s so this is not new
Hit this one out of the park. We're playing elite bowl teams almost every week.
first break out year we have will result in the following season being sold out again For the season
It's all about the W and L
It's all about the W and L
I think most of it is Flood related. Flood needed to be gone sooner. Last year with him was really too much to take. Had we hired a big name coach instead of Ash, ticket sales would not has dropped off. We didn't, so we are where we are.
Ash needs to prove that he can build a winner. It will take a winning season to recover, and that looks to be years away.
Ash needs to prove that he can build a winner. It will take a winning season to recover, and that looks to be years away.
They were purposely making the 3 game packages and single game tickets very expensive to convince people to go with the season tickets which comes out to a way better price per game.
This may have worked for the first couple years in the BIG10 to boost season tickets but bad results coupled with the BIG10 appeal is showing its effects.
I think they need to ease the gas on these dynamic prices a bit and make more appealing packages to get those fringe fans back in the stadium.
Bottom line is once were competitive in 2-3 years I bet we start smashing season ticket records.
Anybody saying that the cost to buy a season ticket , a 3 game package, finding a singles game ticket, or parking, or travel to/from the game is frankly wrong (or just your run of the mill super cheap RU fan). I'm a very thrifty person who used to park for free. Rutgers has a ton of options that hopefully won't be around forever.
The cost to attend a fairly big time event at a Big 10 program in Piscataway is relatively lower end. (as long as you don't eat or drink at the stadium LOL).
Of course if your base is the Saturday local sports snack shack there is little that can be done for you.
Getting to a non-Ohio State/Michigan/Penn State game can be done super cheap. SUPER Cheap. Going to the out of conference games can be nearly free. NO excuses.
The cost to attend a fairly big time event at a Big 10 program in Piscataway is relatively lower end. (as long as you don't eat or drink at the stadium LOL).
Of course if your base is the Saturday local sports snack shack there is little that can be done for you.
Getting to a non-Ohio State/Michigan/Penn State game can be done super cheap. SUPER Cheap. Going to the out of conference games can be nearly free. NO excuses.
Not a tired excuse-I was in the same boat when the kids were young, coupled with conflicts with the kids' Saturday soccer games. We have had 4 tickets for the last 3 years, and the kids have willingly tagged along, but neither enjoys sitting through 3-4 hours of football. We skip tailgating to make it easier on them. We even sold their Michigan tickets. My wife and I are both alums, and we both like going to the games.
Trying to figure out if we keep the other 2 tickets for next year. I tried giving my 2 extra Michigan tickets to about ten different people with no luck. Sold them on Stub Hub for a small profit. I ate my Howard tickets, as my office had rented the party deck, and I could not pay someone to take those tickets.
Noon starts suck and are a drag for the casual fan. Really screws up the whole day, as you have to leave by 9 or 10 a.m. to be into the stadium by 11:30 (who gets in that early?), game over at 3:30, and home by 5 or 6. Yeah, it's fine if you are a hardcore fan or live in a college football centric area like Nebraska, Columbus, East Lansing or Madison.
Watching the team lose weekly and lose big is going to hurt attendance especially for fans with young families.
Really? 2 just sold tonight on eBay in section 108 for $172, and 2 in section 109 an hour ago for $157. That's $330 in your pocket if you were paying attention to the market.
I'm not sure if you were responding to my point, but I don't disagree with you. My point was as some fans get older and downsize their season ticket alotment, with a vibrant winning program new fans take their place. Because RU has been backpedaling the last few years, those replacements have not come. So, I think we are saying the same thing -- losing is the primary cause.
This only goes to prove what most of us have known all along: The number of actual "Rutgers fans" is not all that high. Then factor in how many can't afford season tickets or don't think the product is worth it. Then factor in the malaise we feel right now.
If this becomes a trend regardless of record, then I worry. Until then, it has to be expected.
If this becomes a trend regardless of record, then I worry. Until then, it has to be expected.
Expect next year to dip as well because of the losing and beat downs plus this is the even year that has penn state and michigan at home which is much more desirable than msu and ohio
yeah ok, you have someone in this thread saying they couldn't give their tix away, I buy tix to games at ridiculously low prices. The fact is, unless you are mentally challenged, is that prices are far too high for the product on the field.
I'm going and I'll post what I pay for them outside the stadium with seat location. I expect this game to command more then I'm used to paying however
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This is the way...... As a long time ticket holder in both basketball and football I would ask for seats closer to the middle each and every year...... The request was never ignored, way back when, and now I have them where I want them
My advice to people would be to do the same now...... You still might wind up in your same section, due to your donation level, but you could move 5 yards at a time towards the 50 yard line within your section....
The trick is to do it every year and you get better and better seats as others leave.
That shouldn't work it used to) because Rutgers now requires a lot of priority points to sit in the top sections 126 and 125 and 106 and 105. The last I heard similar was about 4 years ago one of our crew bought into R priority section for a one time $5,000. That really P*ssed off one crew leader whos now a biggie with the foundation. Myself and my crew (you know who if you read my posts) were also irked because all of us (I wrongly lost 23.5 priority points once and lost all two other times) are very long time season ticketholders-and donors-and have "earned" such seats. Again, right now I'm technically homeless and being supported for the most part (not 9-5 yet) and I managed to pay for both my seat and donation. If I come up with the funds, why shouldn't others?
That said I'm sitting here feeling bad for that guy (who paid $5,000) as one of our crew member (same as above) has a friend who basically pseudo mooches seats around us because they go unused and security does not enforce. He DOES supposedly have a season ticket in a lesser section and donates something but doesn't make our level donation.
In a way one thing people can do help demand is not to allow (or bring friends to sit near you unless they have their own ticket in that location) people to sit by you who don't own the rights to that seat for that game.
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