I guess we'll know more about Rutgers D next weekend. I'd expect to give up 500 yards but as long as they can "bend but not break" then it will be a big plus.
Temple's D was dominant yesterday.
James Franklin...OMG
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Temple's D was dominant yesterday.
y'all see the tweet response from Donovan Smith? someone tweeted "why did u leave us?" his response...."this exact reason"
SO. you are saying that Temple is a better team than we are.Is that what you think and if so why? I would be interested in reading your answer.
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Cuz Hack has lead feet. A more mobile QB wouldn't look as bad, even behind their line.Temple got a sack with a 2 man rush.
I think PSU's talent is overrated and I think Temple's is underrated, such that I would've thought PSU might've won a close game yesterday if they played to expectations. I also would've guessed that our talent level was about the same as PSU's, such that I'd expect a close, tough game against them (like 2 years ago). Obviously, PSU played horribly, but we can't necessarily count on them playing that badly against us, especially at home.
And while we lost much of our secondary, I'm feeling better about our QBs, so I'm hoping that's a wash for us and that we can still win 6 games, including on the road against PSU - but anyone thinking the PSU shellacking will translate to an easy win for us in Happy Valley is nuts. I think we'll know a lot more about our team, though, after the WSU game.
Sheesh Source. I went to the Temple site yesterday to congratulate them and what do I see? A thread started by SHUSource titled "RU imploding again." You lost me as a one who thought you were a fair and reasonable poster here.
Oh Source is a real snake in the grass. I've seen him post anti RU stuff before on other boards.
You are saying that in your opinion Temple has better talent than Rutgers.With all due respect,You Have got to be KIDDING. Tell me your joking!
The other thing I was thinking about was Franklin putting Hackenberg back out there with under 2 left and trailing 28-10. There is a .01% chance you win that game and your star QB goes in to pass the ball again after spending (seemingly) most of his dropbacks on his butt. That was moronic of Franklin.. he definitely deserves to be chewed out... though as an RU fan, I'm loving it.
Isn't that what was happening the day that five players were arrested? I don't think that was an unfair subject line. if I wanted to hide it, I would've buried the mean stuff in the body, since it's a pay board. And actually, the subject line was the most incendiary (if you consider it that) thing about it.
The fact you felt compelled to run to the Temple board to post that speaks volumes why try to hide it? You enjoy watching RU fail. I understand. I love watching SHU floundering in sports irrelevance, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
I like how they also kept a running back in for extra protection.Temple got a sack with a 2 man rush.
No, Source, the day 5 players were arrested, Rutgers was not imploding. That event was on them, not the program.
I'd recommend taking a close look at the stats of the RU defense for the last 2 years. Record-setting. It'd be close to malpractice for any analyst or announcer to look at it and say that it's not a bad defense. Now, maybe you have hopes that certain players will develop or be better and so forth. We all do. But right now any reasonable person looking at RU's D sees a bad one, a very bad one.
Slightly disagree with your last statement, as other programs that have had players arrested, almost all fans (RU and others) blamed those programs as it comes with the territory.
Good news for RU is that these 5 players are probably an anomaly, as RU normally doesn't have many players that get arrested most years.
Well, it depends on how you want to frame it. In and of itself, you're right - that event is on those players. It certainly was not Rutgers or the football program that made them do that. But if you want to take it in tandem with the Flood e-mail issue, and put in context with the other ways the athletics department at Rutgers keeps shooting itself in the foot, then yes, you can make the claim - as many media outlets well beyond your friends at NJ.com did - that they were imploding again.
I will say, they responded nicely as a team Saturday, which is what you'd want to see as a fan. If they can put that ugly day behind them, and that's a great start, good for them. The guys still on the roster deserve better from their teammates.
This isn't entirely true. RU's D was very bad against the best teams. It was more than adequate against opponents of similar talent.
I like how Shoe fans have to float around the Internet to talk football since their community college doesn't have a team.
Shoe fans have nerve to talk about others schools athletes assaulting people.
Shoe fly, go hang out on Temples board. It's your speed.
Shoe fans have nerve to talk about others schools athletes assaulting people.
Shoe fly, go hang out on Temples board. It's your speed.
Looks like your account's been hacked by a seventh-grader again, Cali. Seems to happen to you a lot; you should be more careful with these things.
Source, check out which schools had the most football players arrested in the past 5 years. You won't find RU among the top 50. Are all those programs imploding? Check out which football programs have been in the top 10% APR during the past 10 years. RU is one of a handful, and if I recall correctly, the only state public school in that group. Does that sound like a program imploding? Go read the NCAA rules about contacting professors and you'll find that KF did not violate any NCAA rule, but allegedly violated a Rutgers policy. Is that an implosion compared to N.Carolina's academic scandal? Did you post on any board that N. Carolina was imploding? If you want to just be a shill for the SL when its convenient for your agenda then go ahead. Just don't pretend that you're posting innocently on a team's message board that is not even in Rutgers conference.
The answer to your question is this is huge news at RU because we actually hold ouself to standards where generally others dont. Thus isn't SHU basketball or LSU football. So of course this us going to grab big headlines, just like the RU basketball coach who was fired for yelling at his players.
I embrace the high standards. It's what separates RU from the rest of the mouth-breathing college sports community.
King, I agree with our high standards. That isn't the point in my responses to Source. We are not imploding! That's just him trying to trash our program while attempting to be impartial when he posts on our site. Personally, I don't admire people talking out of both sides of their mouths.
I've never attempted to be impartial. I'm not impartial at all. In the context of sports, I am not a Rutgers fan whatsoever. So I do laugh when administrators or coaches screw up, or you lose a game, or whatever it might be.That sort of subject material isn't sacred; it's just college sports.
In real life - that is, the part that doesn't involve collegiate athletics - I actually hold Rutgers in pretty high regard, which is why I took no pleasure in the arrests story last week. It was similar enough to something that happened at Seton Hall a number of years ago, and most fans are aware enough that it can happen anywhere. If you have an issue with the way I subject-lined the post, I would again refer you to the way the national media treated that same story: the same way. So, yeah, there is something to it. You don't like the use of "implode," but I do. I try to be a polite visitor here, which I think is good practice, but I'm not obligated to be deferential to Rutgers when I'm not posting on another school's board (which total two, besides this one).
Likewise, and of course I enjoy it; that's not breaking news. But the arrests thing was breaking news that hadn't been posted there, on a board where I routinely post. It was obviously interesting and a relevant story, which is why it blew up nationally. I just don't see what's scandalous, or why anyone cares what I think, anyway.
This is what fans from every school think, and they're all convinced of it. It's what makes fans feel better when bad things keep happening. But every school pretty much swims in the same cesspool. The only difference is what kind of lid they keep on it.
Then what is your explanation for why things like this are major stories here and complete non stories everywhere else?
I don't think they're non-stories elsewhere. I think they are major stories everywhere else, though magnified in their own markets. One thing that was different here, which some commentators picked up on, was that issues like this are more typically associated with successful programs. I don't know if there's factual evidence behind that, but it made for some cheap gags in coverage.
At Maryland we've had players suspended for the entire season several times in the past few years for brushes with the law that are much less egregious than what these players did (for instance, Wes Brown, starting RB, was suspended from both the team and the university itself in 2013 for pushing past and running away from a police officer who wanted to question him about a crime that he witnessed but was not a part of). It was a huge story in our corner of the world.
I don't think that's something that only happens at Rutgers, and I think that should make you feel better, actually.
Source, I don't expect you to be impartial. That's what makes a fan. As far as "national news", no national news organization did any of the reporting. They just picked up the SL's impartial reporting. So, no, that's not the way the national news treated RU. It's just lazy coverage of someone else's pseudoreporting. I'm sure lots of SHU fans feel the SL treats SHU also. I'm happy to see some exclusives being released to nonSL outlets.
