Not doubting what you are hearing, but if he is Tennessee bound, why make a trip to Columbus? If that trip doesn't happen, I'll take it as a sign that you are right.Originally posted by CuredbywinningRU:
RUblackshirt - a number of folks (including myself) have heard indirectly, off this board (supposedly based on direct sources), that Tenn has won this race. It's been out there for a couple weeks now. Who knows what the reality is, but I can tell you that the view that Tenn is the winner is widely held so it will not be a surprise to many people when he announcement comes.
stfuOriginally posted by CuredbywinningRU:
Tennessee appears to be the winner here. Look, the only chance we had for him was his being from NJ and his Dad being an RU HOF'er. Those were big pluses for us, no doubt. But, the reality is, that if a kid is more football than academics oriented or he visits Tenn and sees their facilities, the legacy of Peyton Manning - one of the true great student athletes and great QBs in recent memory (I believe he was a straight A student there), the way football players are the heroes of that University and the bevy of very pretty southern girls running around the campus, it's not hard to understand why he would choose Tenn over RU. Very sad because I believe he would have brought other recruits with him - which would have helped Flood, who has proven to be a very mediocre recruiter.
Haha, seriously!Originally posted by Rokodesh:
stfuOriginally posted by CuredbywinningRU:
Tennessee appears to be the winner here. Look, the only chance we had for him was his being from NJ and his Dad being an RU HOF'er. Those were big pluses for us, no doubt. But, the reality is, that if a kid is more football than academics oriented or he visits Tenn and sees their facilities, the legacy of Peyton Manning - one of the true great student athletes and great QBs in recent memory (I believe he was a straight A student there), the way football players are the heroes of that University and the bevy of very pretty southern girls running around the campus, it's not hard to understand why he would choose Tenn over RU. Very sad because I believe he would have brought other recruits with him - which would have helped Flood, who has proven to be a very mediocre recruiter.
you turn literally every post against Flood. You bring nothing of value to this board
Who is Garrett?Originally posted by klemman:
In my opinion if JG commits to RU it's a done deal. If he commits elsewhere he is a threat to flip with RU in the mix until LOI day. Word here in Columbus is that the OSU coaches feel they have a strong relationship with Garrett but they still might not end up being his first choice.
They have one of the highest ranking dual threat QBs from Texas visiting this weekend and he is saiid to have the Buckeyes as a favorite. If he commits on his visit that would take OSU out of the race for JG.
If the Buckeyes can't get him I hope you guys do.
I think you're missing Rokodesh's point.Originally posted by CuredbywinningRU:
M1stman - you are absolutely correct that I am critical of Flood - let's see - not a good recruiter and in three years has beaten about 2 P5 teams with winning records (just barely winning records). So tell me where my criticism of Flood is inappropriate? It all starts at the top and the program is going sideways at best and in each game vs a top team not only did we lose (that's not surprising at this point), but we were hopelessly blown out.
Good question. UT has been pretty crappy for quite a while. Any answers?Originally posted by ag67:
Ask yourself this.
Knowing the culture in college football game today, why is UT suddenly knocking the ball out of the park on the recruiting front?
Lol. Garrett aka Jarrett is Guarantano when you are doing something else while you are posting on a message board. As my wife will attest, I have a focus problem.Originally posted by jmc11201:
Who is Garrett?
Would OSU take a commitment from the visitor this weekend or is his offer contingent on Guarantano going elsewhere?
You StfuOriginally posted by Rokodesh:
stfuOriginally posted by CuredbywinningRU:
Tennessee appears to be the winner here. Look, the only chance we had for him was his being from NJ and his Dad being an RU HOF'er. Those were big pluses for us, no doubt. But, the reality is, that if a kid is more football than academics oriented or he visits Tenn and sees their facilities, the legacy of Peyton Manning - one of the true great student athletes and great QBs in recent memory (I believe he was a straight A student there), the way football players are the heroes of that University and the bevy of very pretty southern girls running around the campus, it's not hard to understand why he would choose Tenn over RU. Very sad because I believe he would have brought other recruits with him - which would have helped Flood, who has proven to be a very mediocre recruiter.
you turn literally every post against Flood. You bring nothing of value to this board
That's the crazy thing about recruiting. Some schools simply have a built in advantage whether it be stadium size, academics, campus, bag men etc etc..... As Cured said it is greatly believed by people in the know that he it Tennessee bound. In fact, he was UT bound before he gave that interview saying we lead. It's easy to blame Flood and he needs to win some of these battles going forward but if he ends up elsewhere I don't pin this on Flood's "mediocre" recruiting. From what I've heard there are many layers to this story.Originally posted by Knight Shift:
Wat da fark is Butch Jones selling? 12-13 and 5-11 in conference over 2 seasons? Signature wins against South Carolina and Iowa last year with other wins against Utah State, Arkansas State, Chattanooga, Kentucky and Vanderbilt ( a slugfest)?
This post is silly. Top kids are going to go were they want regardless of competition. If they didn't the same five teams wouldn't always have the top classes. Hell, if he was afraid of competition he could have gone to the public school in his town.Originally posted by rutgersdave:
If he commit to Tennessee, he's not very smart. I see they have 3 4 stars QB signed for 2015. The only reason he would go to UT Is he knows he can transfer to Rutgers when he fails. If Flood can not sell that then he doesn't have the skills to sell recruits.
He would have less than 25% chance of starting against the other 3 QB from 2015 since one of them will be already the starter being there one year ahead of him. Going to a team that went 5-7 in 2012 and 2013. In 2014, UT was 6-6 regular season and there only meaningful win in the SEC was against South Carolina who also went 6-6. UT is still the bottom of the SEC until proving otherwise.
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What greatness has Rutgers achieved the past two years? What he is selling is a $45 million training facility that opened in 2013. A chance to play in the best football conference in the country. A chance to play in front of 100k at home and play in some of the nations most historic college football venues. He is selling one of the most tradition rich programs in the country. He is selling the potential of the football program which has been underachieving the past few years.Originally posted by Knight Shift:
Wat da fark is Butch Jones selling? 12-13 and 5-11 in conference over 2 seasons? Signature wins against South Carolina and Iowa last year with other wins against Utah State, Arkansas State, Chattanooga, Kentucky and Vanderbilt ( a slugfest)?
I have been following your posts....you are a great RU fan....Originally posted by RUbacker:
Give JG credit for actually competing against the other committed qb's at tenn. He is not afraid to compete. Best of luck at tenn.
Jones hasn't done sh!t on the field, and so he is selling potential? Tennessee is an odd choice among the three for JG. If he wants the SEC, why not make it 'Bama, Missouri, Georgia, or even the rising power Arkansas? I am not convinced he is a lock to Tennessee. He knows what he has at Rutgers. Legacy. A chance to put the state university of his home state on the map in its nascent years in the B1G.Originally posted by PSU_Nut:
What greatness has Rutgers achieved the past two years? What he is selling is a $45 million training facility that opened in 2013. A chance to play in the best football conference in the country. A chance to play in front of 100k at home and play in some of the nations most historic college football venues. He is selling one of the most tradition rich programs in the country. He is selling the potential of the football program which has been underachieving the past few years.Originally posted by Knight Shift:
Wat da fark is Butch Jones selling? 12-13 and 5-11 in conference over 2 seasons? Signature wins against South Carolina and Iowa last year with other wins against Utah State, Arkansas State, Chattanooga, Kentucky and Vanderbilt ( a slugfest)?
I sure he is talking the rebuilding potential angle from Kiffin/Dooley era. They are improving from the last two coaches.Originally posted by Knight Shift:
Jones hasn't done sh!t on the field, and so he is selling potential? Tennessee is an odd choice among the three for JG. If he wants the SEC, why not make it 'Bama, Missouri, Georgia, or even the rising power Arkansas? I am not convinced he is a lock to Tennessee. He knows what he has at Rutgers. Legacy. A chance to put the state university of his home state on the map in its nascent years in the B1G.Originally posted by PSU_Nut:
What greatness has Rutgers achieved the past two years? What he is selling is a $45 million training facility that opened in 2013. A chance to play in the best football conference in the country. A chance to play in front of 100k at home and play in some of the nations most historic college football venues. He is selling one of the most tradition rich programs in the country. He is selling the potential of the football program which has been underachieving the past few years.Originally posted by Knight Shift:
Wat da fark is Butch Jones selling? 12-13 and 5-11 in conference over 2 seasons? Signature wins against South Carolina and Iowa last year with other wins against Utah State, Arkansas State, Chattanooga, Kentucky and Vanderbilt ( a slugfest)?
I gotta admit that while I, also, would be absolutely ecstatic if JG commits here, I'm getting to the point where all the suspense and speculation about where he's going is approaching overkill.Originally posted by DJ Spanky:
Ya know, I hope he does come here, but at this point I'm just sick of hearing about it.
Yea when Kyle a Flood no longer coaches at Rutgers. Why? Because he would have landed these recruits by year 4Originally posted by kaji_siva:
Just do a quick scan of the kid's Twitter account and it's pretty obvious he's all Tenn. Oh well. I look forward to the day we're able to keep the best talent in state at home... And that day WILL eventually come.
This isn't a reasonable statement. We're "in the mix" for guys who are, one way or another, going to major programs. We're recruiting against the best. Winning the recruiting battles on this level is not a trifle.Originally posted by RUchip:
Yea when Kyle a Flood no longer coaches at Rutgers. Why? Because he would have landed these recruits by year 4
This. Looks like at least one poster is lying in wait with his pitchfork and torch ready to riot at the first hint of something not going our way to start bashing the head coach.Originally posted by StyleKnight:
There is a lot of loser mentality in this thread. I'm not scared by OSU or UT, we have plenty to offer.