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Kolstad-Nelson story from today

Dude never played a down here. He was a transfer in paper only, but as usual the media reports him as a Rutgers QB. He was recruited to play QB, he was let go to play courtroom.
 
Hope no program takes that POS in... Curious as to those who have fully supported ray rice have to say, saying "he made a mistake, everybody does" does that apply to Nelson too?
 
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Hope no program takes that POS in... Curious as to those who have fully supported ray rice have to say, saying "he made a mistake, everybody does" does that apply to Nelson too?

So if someone sucker punched you in the back of the head you would sit there and take it?

Not surprised
 
Dude never played a down here. He was a transfer in paper only, but as usual the media reports him as a Rutgers QB. He was recruited to play QB, he was let go to play courtroom.
He was a Scarlet Knight at the time. He had spent the semester at RU and had practiced with the team. Everything is not a RU conspiracy .
 
All sides are culpable here, but I feel bad for Kolstad. And nothing justifies kicking an unconscious man in the head in the context of a bar fight. Mr. Nelson really comes off poorly, too.
 
All sides are culpable here, but I feel bad for Kolstad. And nothing justifies kicking an unconscious man in the head in the context of a bar fight. Mr. Nelson really comes off poorly, too.
Both "men" were at fault but as details emerged Nelson looked much better then initially reported. I'd bet a good majority of people on this board were involved in drunk fights while in college........
 
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Both "men" were at fault but as details emerged Nelson looked much better then initially reported. I'd bet a good majority of people on this board were involved in drunk fights while in college........

I agree...and Nelson's plea/sentence reflects that. It's a shame that you can't hit a button and erase the night for everyone.
 
He was a Scarlet Knight at the time. He had spent the semester at RU and had practiced with the team. Everything is not a RU conspiracy .
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, so I'll assume that was directed at others. Practicing with the team as a transfer student is a different thing than being a starter, so when it's reported that "the Rutgers QB was arrested..." or some variation thereof, it's disingenuous. He hadn't taken a snap at RU, had been here a semester, and in certain media outlets was being represented as our QB. Let's not pretend that the Ledger, for instance, won't take advantage of a story like this to slam RU.
 
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, so I'll assume that was directed at others. Practicing with the team as a transfer student is a different thing than being a starter, so when it's reported that "the Rutgers QB was arrested..." or some variation thereof, it's disingenuous. He hadn't taken a snap at RU, had been here a semester, and in certain media outlets was being represented as our QB. Let's not pretend that the Ledger, for instance, won't take advantage of a story like this to slam RU.
The article was filed in Minnesota by a writer based in Oregon. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't bother to check on how many starts Nelson had for Rutgers. If it was a local writer that might be different.
 
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"According to court documents, Philip Nelson, then a 20-year-old quarterback at Rutgers..."

How can anyone possibly take offense at that?
 
"According to court documents, Philip Nelson, then a 20-year-old quarterback at Rutgers..."

How can anyone possibly take offense at that?
Because it was more noteworthy and equally true t say something like "former University of Minnesota QB who recently had transferred to Rutgers..".\

Think about it.. this is a Minnesota native who played for Minnesota involved in a crime in Minnesota and standing trial in Minnesota. The "Rutgers" part should be a minor footnote.
 
The article was filed in Minnesota by a writer based in Oregon. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't bother to check on how many starts Nelson had for Rutgers. If it was a local writer that might be different.

Seems to be a fair and balanced article. Some quotes:

"Among those who wrote on Nelson's behalf were his former Mankato West football coach, an academic adviser at Rutgers, . . . "

"Philip Nelson could have been Rutgers' starting quarterback this coming year. He transferred there in January 2014 after playing two seasons at Minnesota, where he started 16 games."
 
Oh the thin skin crowd just loves to stir up trouble when it is not there. They complain about nothing. Which is ironic that they stir the pot more than most of these articles.

Defend Rutgers at every turn even when no danger exists.
 
Both "men" were at fault but as details emerged Nelson looked much better then initially reported. I'd bet a good majority of people on this board were involved in drunk fights while in college........

...neuroscientists have caught up and brain scans show clearly that the brain is not fully finished developing until about age 25.

Their prefrontal cortex is not yet fully developed. That's the part of the brain that helps you to inhibit impulses...

a 20 year old is 50 percent more likely to do something risky if two friends are watching than if he's alone.


(SOURCE)

The article suggests that this is why car rental companies have high minimum age requirements and typically restrict vehicle selection for ages 21-24.
 
Both "men" were at fault but as details emerged Nelson looked much better then initially reported. I'd bet a good majority of people on this board were involved in drunk fights while in college........

I agree...and Nelson's plea/sentence reflects that. It's a shame that you can't hit a button and erase the night for everyone.

Youth, alcohol, girlfriend, late night - that's just a bad combination all around. What happened to Kolstad was terrible, but you have to ask if he's married with a child and another one on the way, what the hell was he doing out at 2AM in the morning? And let's be fair: I was in my share of altercations at that age, but I never attacked someone from behind and hit them in the head so hard that I knocked them down. That doesn't absolve what Nelson did afterward, but they damn well shouldn't be painting Kolstad as some type of martyr.

"According to court documents, Philip Nelson, then a 20-year-old quarterback at Rutgers..."

How can anyone possibly take offense at that?

Seems to be a fair and balanced article. Some quotes:

"Among those who wrote on Nelson's behalf were his former Mankato West football coach, an academic adviser at Rutgers, . . . "

"Philip Nelson could have been Rutgers' starting quarterback this coming year. He transferred there in January 2014 after playing two seasons at Minnesota, where he started 16 games."

And this is dead on, so I don't understand what people are complaining about. If that incident hadn't occurred, Hayden Rettig wouldn't be here and Nelson would probably be first in line for the starting job this fall.
 
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