Latest on Zion getting paid by Duke
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The NCAA will wait until this legal process plays out before they do anything. It could be 2022 by then.Duke’s punishment will be one less walk-on and one less band member for 2020-2021.
We have a better chance of seeing Seton Hall vs.RU in the final four then the NCAA coming down hard on duke. Coach K ''the rat '' will escape untouched.How dumb to put the cars in his mom's and stepdad's name.
Is Thomas Morris Duke's version of Sam Gilbert or is he one of many?
The NCAA will wait until this legal process plays out before they do anything. It could be 2022 by then.
Hmmm. I'll take the NCAA coming down hard on Duke over the chance of seeing Seton Hall vs.RU in the final fourWe have a better chance of seeing Seton Hall vs.RU in the final four then the NCAA coming down hard on duke. Coach K ''the rat '' will escape untouched.
I've watched SportsCenter with Scott Van Pelt at least once a night and I can't remember this story even being mentioned on their network...or maybe I missed it.
How dumb to put the cars in his mom's and stepdad's name.
Is Thomas Morris Duke's version of Sam Gilbert or is he one of many?
The NCAA will wait until this legal process plays out before they do anything. It could be 2022 by then.
The NCAA didn't do anything to UNC basketball, in part, because students who weren't student-athletes also "took" those classes. I mentioned that on this board the other day I can't remember which thread though. I still don't understand how they maintained their accreditation.Russ
IMO the NCAA didn't do squat re.: UNC and phantom classes producing "A's" for athletes. The NCAA did respond to PSU's issues by stripping Joe Pa / the school of the W"S (vacating)....and then in 2016 reinstated the marks.
IMO the rich get richer and Duke gets the best money can buy.
Nothing will happen because the NCAA, ESPN, FOX, et. al can't afford to sacrifice Duke...since they are the chosen ones....just ask them!
MO
Seeing RU finally playing in a NCAA game would be nice. Duke's cheating actually started at about the same time RU played in its last game in the NCAAs.Hmmm. I'll take the NCAA coming down hard on Duke over the chance of seeing Seton Hall vs.RU in the final four
[roll]Seeing RU finally playing in a NCAA game would be nice. Duke's cheating actually started at about the same time RU played in its last game in the NCAAs.
Aside from the Duke/Zion angle of this story, I'm fascinated by the agent angle.
Zion breaks a contract with them due to the contract being illegal.... and instead of arguing that the contract was not illegal on its merits, they are arguing that Zion wasn't an eligible athlete so he shouldn't be protected by that law. They're essentially conceding the fact that their intent was to violate the laws protecting student athletes... and showing that they are willing to attack his past eligibility to protect a contract that was signed in bad faith.
Why would any future student athlete ever sign with this agency?
Articles about legal proceedings, particularly one like this that involves two separate lawsuits, are at times inacurate and, even when they aren't, often incomplete and rarely clear. I'm editing your statement above to represent my guess at what's going on, given the article and other articles it links:
Zion signed a 5-year contract with a marketing agent after he declared for the NBA draft. A month later, he tried to get out of it and, instead, sign with CAA, a big agency. When the marketing agent said that was wrong because he had just signed a 5 year contract with them, Zion sued, claming that the contract was, among other things, unenforceable due to the contract's failure to contain certain language intended to protect NCAA athletes from inadvertently losing their elegibility by signing with an agent ... and instead of accepting Zion's argument, the marketing agent fought back and sued Zion and CAA, arguing, among other things, that Zion wasn't protected by that law because he wasn't an eligbile NCAA athlete in the first place--he and/or his family took money for housing and cars from a Duke alum. They're saying that their intent was to enter a marketing contract with Zion after he declared for the draft and that it should remain viable becuse it wasn't voided by a law that doesn't or shouldn't protect Zion ... and showing that they are willing to attack his past eligibility to protect a contract that they claim was proper and never canceled.
Ouch, that's just plain mean Russ.Hmmm. I'll take the NCAA coming down hard on Duke over the chance of seeing Seton Hall vs.RU in the final four
The NCAA didn't do anything to UNC basketball, in part, because students who weren't student-athletes also "took" those classes. I mentioned that on this board the other day I can't remember which thread though. I still don't understand how they maintained their accreditation.
Vacating wins is probably the dumbest penalty. I get why the NCAA does it but fans aren't going to forget those games just because the wins were vacated.
Yes, that was one of the "among other things" alleged. And things are alleged against Zion. As far as another player signing with that agent, who knows. Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not sure I care. I was just trying to better focus the description of what was going on.From what I understand, the agency also wasn't registered to act as an agent in NC, but did so anyway.
I still don't understand why any athletes would sign with them moving forward.
Fine. Seton Hall doesn’t have to be there.Hmmm. I'll take the NCAA coming down hard on Duke over the chance of seeing Seton Hall vs.RU in the final four
Yes, that was one of the "among other things" alleged. And things are alleged against Zion. As far as another player signing with that agent, who knows. Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not sure I care. I was just trying to better focus the description of what was going on.
Hopefully for RU. Not so sure about Duke though. The payments go on.[roll]
Rutgers has been bad for a long time, that's over now.
Probably earlier than that.Duke's cheating actually started at about the same time RU played in its last game in the NCAAs.
The NCAA didn't do anything to UNC basketball, in part, because students who weren't student-athletes also "took" those classes. I mentioned that on this board the other day I can't remember which thread though. I still don't understand how they maintained their accreditation.
But if the NCAA is going to whiff on something that is foundational to their mission, ensuring participants are academically qualified, what's their purpose for being?
I did miss you explaining why those arguments are ridiculous or fake.Yet another story/thread about players getting paid.
Is there an easy way to quote all the moronic and hypocritical posts from other threads?
Such as these reoccuring gems:
"Allowing players to get paid will ruin college sports. The rich will just get richer."
"College sports is for amateurs. If the players get paid then I'm not watching anymore."
"If players get paid, Rutgers won't be able to compete. The top schools will just throw the most money at the best players."
Did I miss any other ridiculous fake arguments that come up?
I did miss you explaining why those arguments are ridiculous or fake.
I offer an alternative solution.. enforce the rules/lawsNo problem.
"Allowing players to get paid will ruin college sports. The rich will just get richer."
This is an entire thread about players getting paid and the rich getting richer. It is already happening. Is college sports already ruined? If so then shouldnt something be different be tried?
Keeping it "hidden" just means the $ amount for Zion is hidden.
"College sports is for amateurs. If the players get paid then I'm not watching anymore."
Bye. Stop watching today. Players are already getting paid and you continue to watch. It's not a secret. You know it's not a secret. Your a hypocrite. (Not you specifically @GoodOl'Rutgers - the person who says this).
If Rutgers played Kentucky or Kansas or Duke next year - how many of the "I'll stop watching" crowd will be watching? 100% would watch.
"If players get paid, Rutgers won't be able to compete. The top schools will just throw the most money at the best players."
Again, this is already happening. The same top schools keep getting all the 5-star top players.
There is only one argument for keeping the current system of "hidden money" that makes sense:
I as a fan of Rutgers want to claim a moral supremacy over fans of other schools on message boards.