Laviano can profit from time on the bench!

[carolina scarlet]

Read and processed the opinions pro and con. Know that sitting Laviano creates a risk to his confidence and morale. But I believe that the circumstances now dictate a change be made in the only move the coaches can make for an immediate impact on the field.

Whether Rettig can change the course of this season none can really predict. But we are at the adult table now and are at a crucial crossroads in our schedule. We need to play to win and making the change at QB is the only viable move we can make to create the perception as well as the reality that Rutgers is playing to win.

If Rettig pans out then we move forward to a relatively successful season, the possibility of a bowl and a solid base for next year. If the move is not fruitful, and if Laviano is truly a gamer, he comes back with the added benefit of watching the game from the bench.

 

[mildone]

Okay, Mrs. Rettig.

 

[RU1977]

Bench the #1 qb in the B1G? Gotta be kidding me..,...

 

[RUBOB72]

I hope your 5th post makes more sense

 

[rubaseball78]

Exactly what circumstances dictate Laviano to the bench? If your opinion is Rettig is better based on 1/2 against Norfolk and a bad spring game, that's fine but it is just opinion.

 

[ru66]

this nonsense is getting real tiresome--maybe some should get back to bitching about food? potable johns? whatever other than football stuff

 

[jor22]

The problem is that Flood never gets the back up prepared, What if Laviano gets hurt in an important game? Rettig needs at least 2 series per game,

 

[jerzey devil]

why feed the troll? cmon people be smarter than that

 

[BigBlockR]

this nonsense is getting real tiresome--maybe some should get back to bitching about food? potable johns? whatever other than football stuff

Eww!

 

[RU2055]

Short of an injury (and no I am not wishing for one) to Laviano, Rettig will not play any meaningful minutes this year. Right or wrong, Flood believes that the QB selection process occurs during camp only. When season starts, whoever was chosen keeps the job till the season ends. That's just how it is.

 

[mildone]

why feed the troll? cmon people be smarter than that

The best part is that both @rutgersal and @Local Shill, two experienced posters who ought to know better, actually liked the troll post. LOL

 

[carolina scarlet]

The best part is that both @rutgersal and @Local Shill, two experienced posters who ought to know better, actually liked the troll post. LOL

Not a troll but closed minded posters can throw out name to minimalize authentic thoughts

 

[jerzey devil]

The best part is that both @rutgersal and @Local Shill, two experienced posters who ought to know better, actually liked the troll post. LOL

No one ever accused them of being smart!![roll][roll][roll] No ones ever accused me of being smart either!:cool2:

 

[vkj91]

The problem is that Flood never gets the back up prepared, What if Laviano gets hurt in an important game? Rettig needs at least 2 series per game,

Please name me all the school's that give their backup 2 series a game......I'll wait.

 

[DJ Spanky]

 

[RUchip]

Bench the #1 qb in the B1G? Gotta be kidding me..,...

You have to be kidding yourself if you think he's the #1 QB in the conference

 

[mildone]

You have to be kidding yourself if you think he's the #1 QB in the conference

I don't think it's likely that Laviano's the best QB in the conference, regardless of the stats. But I'm curious. Who do you think is better, what metrics are you using to determine who #1 should be, and what objective proof are you offering to make your case?

 

[RUMountie]

Read and processed the opinions pro and con. Know that sitting Laviano creates a risk to his confidence and morale. But I believe that the circumstances now dictate a change be made in the only move the coaches can make for an immediate impact on the field.

Whether Rettig can change the course of this season none can really predict. But we are at the adult table now and are at a crucial crossroads in our schedule. We need to play to win and making the change at QB is the only viable move we can make to create the perception as well as the reality that Rutgers is playing to win.

If Rettig pans out then we move forward to a relatively successful season, the possibility of a bowl and a solid base for next year. If the move is not fruitful, and if Laviano is truly a gamer, he comes back with the added benefit of watching the game from the bench.

Better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought of as a fool, then to open it and remove all doubt
Abraham Lincoln

 

[RUchip]

I don't think it's likely that Laviano's the best QB in the conference, regardless of the stats. But I'm curious. Who do you think is better, what metrics are you using to determine who #1 should be, and what objective proof are you offering to make your case?

I don't think it's likely that Laviano's the best QB in the conference, regardless of the stats. But I'm curious. Who do you think is better, what metrics are you using to determine who #1 should be, and what objective proof are you offering to make your case?

CL has the top ranked completion percentage but he has the lowest amount of attempts in the league at 124. Besides that Cardale Jones and Cook have not lost a game. Without Caroo how would he look? People don't realize Carroo is a stud and future NFL WR who will be very successful. Laviano threw his best pass of the season on that goal line TD however Caroo makes Laviano a much better QB. Take away Carooo and look at CL yards and TDs and he's at the very bottom of the conference with only 3 TD's.

 

[mildone]

CL has the top ranked completion percentage but he has the lowest amount of attempts in the league at 124. Besides that Cardale Jones and Cook have not lost a game. Without Caroo how would he look? People don't realize Carroo is a stud and future NFL WR who will be very successful. Laviano threw his best pass of the season on that goal line TD however Caroo makes Laviano a much better QB. Take away Carooo and look at CL yards and TDs and he's at the very bottom of the conference with only 3 TD's.

You're not telling me who you think the best is. You're telling me why you think it's not Laviano. Which isn't really what I asked.

Also, all great receivers make their QBs look good. This is not some advantage Laviano has that Jones and Cook don't have. The MSU receivers in the RU v MSU game made some amazing highlight reel catches which could easily have gone for incompletions otherwise.

As for the fact that OSU and MSU are undefeated, that speaks more to the overall quality of the teams than the QB play. In fact, in OSU's case, the QB play had to be overcome in order to win all but their most recent game.

 

[carolina scarlet]

Better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought of as a fool, then to open it and remove all doubt
Abraham Lincoln

Should always anticipate another name-caller out of the woodwork rather than an address of the underlying issue.

 

[mildone]

Should always anticipate another name-caller out of the woodwork rather than an address of the underlying issue.

I don't know if you're new here, or if you were banned and you're coming back w/a new board name, or if you're just an unusually persistent troll. But if you are actually new here, then you're going to want to develop some thicker skin because we all get called names from time to time.

Name-calling really ought not to hurt unless the name-calling is too close to the truth for comfort. Know what I mean?

 

[ru-baby]

Funny how the same vocal "few" come immediately to defend this coach and qb-and attack anyone who disagrees.

Also- The #1 qb??? Always thought putting up enough points to beat the other team was more important than completing passes, many checkdowns. When did that become the important stat? The #1qb is on a 2-3 team? Isnt making the passes that also count more important? Cook didn't have the high% stat line but he made the passes that lead to a W. That makes him more valuable to me but I may be arguing to those vocal few with vested interests here, other than RU first in mind interests.

 

[carolina scarlet]

I don't know if you're new here, or if you were banned and you're coming back w/a new board name, or if you're just an unusually persistent troll. But if you are actually new here, then you're going to want to develop some thicker skin because we all get called names from time to time.

Name-calling really ought not to hurt unless the name-calling is too close to the truth for comfort. Know what I mean?

I'll try once more and then I will let this go; I'm not new on the board, I've never been banned, I'm not reappearing with a different handle, and I'm not a troll.

I posted my opinion and could reasonably expect opposing views to be posted by other Rutgers supporters. That is, in my opinion. a reasonable expectation.

 

[RUchip]

You're not telling me who you think the best is. You're telling me why you think it's not Laviano. Which isn't really what I asked.

Also, all great receivers make their QBs look good. This is not some advantage Laviano has that Jones and Cook don't have. The MSU receivers in the RU v MSU game made some amazing highlight reel catches which could easily have gone for incompletions otherwise.

As for the fact that OSU and MSU are undefeated, that speaks more to the overall quality of the teams than the QB play. In fact, in OSU's case, the QB play had to be overcome in order to win all but their most recent game.

My opinion, Cook

 

[j10oreo]

I think Laviano being the #1 QB in the Big10 is misleading and a terrible defense of Laviano. With that said, I also think it's pretty dumb to consider benching a QB that had one of his best games playing against one the of the best teams (regardless of your opinion if they're under or overrated) in the country. It does feel like a troll piece, which means I have fed the troll.

 

[mildone]

I'll try once more and then I will let this go; I'm not new on the board, I've never been banned, I'm not reappearing with a different handle, and I'm not a troll.

I posted my opinion and could reasonably expect opposing views to be posted by other Rutgers supporters. That is, in my opinion. a reasonable expectation.

You're not new, haven't been banned, but only have 7 total posts? Then I guess you've just been taking it all in for awhile without posting, right?

In which case, I would think you would realize by now that, like it is on most anonymous internet forums, you're going to need to have thick skin and not worry about name-calling or vehement disagreement w/your opinions.

State your opinions, let the cards fall where they lay and don't worry about what other posters say.

Edit: Except me. You should worry about what I say. But ignore everybody else. :D

 

[mildone]

My opinion, Cook

Cook looks good to me too. Haven't seen all the B1G QBs play this season, so I can't say if he's the best or not.

 

[lighty]

I think Laviano being the #1 QB in the Big10 is misleading and a terrible defense of Laviano. With that said, I also think it's pretty dumb to consider benching a QB that had one of his best games playing against on the of the best teams (regardless of your opinion if they're under or overrated) in the country. It does feel like a troll piece, which means I have fed the troll.

+1

Whether or not you think Rettig deserves a shot, Laviano earned the right to start the next game after the MSU performance.

He definitely has more confidence when Carroo is playing. Let's hope that continues.

 

[Rufaninga]

Laviano had 0 turnovers. Completed some big pass pkays to caroo. I don't think he was the reason we lost. We failed to stop MSU on many 3rd downs when their receivers made gr8 catches. It's his 4th career start, he's not a junior or senior with full seasons under his belt. Starting an underclassmen will take time for the game to slow down so he can go through progressions quicker. I see him getting better each week.

 

[NickKnight 1]

Short of an injury (and no I am not wishing for one) to Laviano, Rettig will not play any meaningful minutes this year. Right or wrong, Flood believes that the QB selection process occurs during camp only. When season starts, whoever was chosen keeps the job till the season ends. That's just how it is.

So how can Rettig get the job in the spring if Laviano gets all the time this
year? Sounds like catch22 for Rettig.

 

[mildone]

So how can Rettig get the job in the spring if Laviano gets all the time this
year? Sounds like catch22 for Rettig.

Russo might come in and completely displace both Rettig and Laviano. It's not about fair. It's about putting the best player on the field.

 

[BoroKnight]

CL has the top ranked completion percentage but he has the lowest amount of attempts in the league at 124. Besides that Cardale Jones and Cook have not lost a game. Without Caroo how would he look? People don't realize Carroo is a stud and future NFL WR who will be very successful. Laviano threw his best pass of the season on that goal line TD however Caroo makes Laviano a much better QB. Take away Carooo and look at CL yards and TDs and he's at the very bottom of the conference with only 3 TD's.

People don't realize Carroo will be very successful??? It's amazing what people will say to back up their points.

Doesn't matter how good he would look without Carroo. Take away a top-flight WR from any QB and what's going to happen? Come on, people.

 

[RUchip]

People don't realize Carroo will be very successful??? It's amazing what people will say to back up their points.

Doesn't matter how good he would look without Carroo. Take away a top-flight WR from any QB and what's going to happen? Come on, people.

Carroo has more TD's than any other WR in the Big and he's missed 2 games. Name 1 other top WR in the conference. You can't because he's flat out the best WR. Take him away and CL has 3 TD's that's the truth. Sorry. Btw I have no problem with Laviano it's just unsurd someone posted he's the best QB in the conference

 

[RUInsanity]

Read and processed the opinions pro and con. Know that sitting Laviano creates a risk to his confidence and morale. But I believe that the circumstances now dictate a change be made in the only move the coaches can make for an immediate impact on the field.

Whether Rettig can change the course of this season none can really predict. But we are at the adult table now and are at a crucial crossroads in our schedule. We need to play to win and making the change at QB is the only viable move we can make to create the perception as well as the reality that Rutgers is playing to win.

If Rettig pans out then we move forward to a relatively successful season, the possibility of a bowl and a solid base for next year. If the move is not fruitful, and if Laviano is truly a gamer, he comes back with the added benefit of watching the game from the bench.

Are you making the claim that RU did not "Play to Win" against MSU? Why would you bench a QB who is coming off the best performance of his young career against a team ranked in the Top 5? Rettig will get his chance as the circumstances dictate - people need to simmer down.

 

[shredded wheat]

Please name me all the school's that give their backup 2 series a game......I'll wait.

Come on! Look at Ohio State! Let's not forget the 6 interception game by Nova 3 years ago against Kent State at home! Any coach in America would have brought in a capable backup like Chas Dodd!

 

[vkj91]

Come on! Look at Ohio State! Let's not forget the 6 interception game by Nova 3 years ago against Kent State at home! Any coach in America would have brought in a capable backup like Chas Dodd!

Lol. You are so off. Last year OSU almost lost to PSU because Meyer refused to bring Cadale in when the starter was obviously hurt and could barely run. Meyer played those guys when he had no choice. Also, I don't seem to remember Laviano's 6 interception game which is kind of relevant since the thread is about him

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Bench the #1 qb in the B1G? Gotta be kidding me..,...

The #1 QB in the B1G? I really hope you don't actually believe that? Having the best stats do not equal being the best! Using your logic, Chad Pennington was one of the best NFL QB's of all time.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Bench the #1 qb in the B1G? Gotta be kidding me..,...

The #1 QB in the B1G? I really hope you don't actually believe that. Having the best stats do not equal being the best! Using your logic, Chad Pennington was one of the best NFL QB's of all time.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Cook looks good to me too. Haven't seen all the B1G QBs play this season, so I can't say if he's the best or not.

The fact that you are even considering the point seriously calls in to question your knowledge of football! Do you actually think there is a possibility of Laviano being better than Cook, Cardale, or JT?