Those are some pretty incredible leaps based on 2 games.
Let me just say……..
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Pump the brakes. I believe Cam will be great, but let's wait until he gets into some of those critical game time moments. Geo had a TON of responsibility, he did not have the bench or supporting cast that Cam is getting.
Sure every Geo decision wasn't the best, but very few players are money all of the time.
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If we didn't have Geo we wouldn't have been in position to be playing in any of those games in the first place. Cam is good and I've liked what I've seen so far against Columbia and Sacred Heart. No need to tear down and diminish the contributions of one of the most important and clutch players EVER to put on a Rutgers basketball jersey.
We will agree to disagree time will tell
And now that college players like Geo are professional it’s fair game.
Exactly. Geo had his faults (as most players do) but he was pretty consistently good clutch situations. Let's see if Cam continue his current level of play when the competition ramps up.
No need to rip on Geo to make the point that Spencer is awesome
I think we have to see him against better comp to really get a feel but I don't remember a more complete basketball player at RU in the last 40 years
I have seen players that can seemingly play the game at their own speed
Cam looks like one of those guys
Mentally he is way ahead of the others on the court
This allows him to create space and time for himself without being physically faster then his opponent
We really won't know until we see him against the better teams but I think he will continue to have success
I actually think he will get better and better
I have seen players that can seemingly play the game at their own speed
Cam looks like one of those guys
Mentally he is way ahead of the others on the court
This allows him to create space and time for himself without being physically faster then his opponent
We really won't know until we see him against the better teams but I think he will continue to have success
I actually think he will get better and better
Hard not to like what we've seen in 2 games, but candidly the only thing I think I've learned thus far is this team looks better equipped to kick the s--t out of low majors than past versions. I still think this will be (has to be?) a defense and rebounding team first and foremost. Caleb, when he returns, is starting. Of that I am certain. Mag or Hyatt (possibly depending on matchups) is our 6th man.
(imo) We aren't scoring in the mid 70s in B1G play. Last year we averaged just shy of 67 ppg in league play and not sure it is going much higher this season. Time will tell. I think this will need to be a team that has to hold teams in the low to mid 60s to win in B1G play.
(imo) We aren't scoring in the mid 70s in B1G play. Last year we averaged just shy of 67 ppg in league play and not sure it is going much higher this season. Time will tell. I think this will need to be a team that has to hold teams in the low to mid 60s to win in B1G play.
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I don’t want to be THAT guy but didn’t Peter Kiss look really good against the cupcakes his first season?
Cam plays defense and is an unselfish player and is bought into system.
The Kiss comparisons fall short. First, Spencer has been a good college ball shooter for a few years now. Kiss was not a good shooter before he came here. Spencer is coming in with a much better college track record.
Second, you know you can use this same argument for any good player Rutgers ever gets. "well, Kiss looked good his first game...". Some of them will actually turn out to be very good players.
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Absolutely no need to compare Cam to Geo to make any point. Just trust your eyes. For those of us that have actually been at the games in person , Cam will be the most impactful player we have had since Douby. It also has almost nothing to do with his more than adequate 3 point shooting. It has to do with his headliness , not sure Rutgers has had anyone as smart and as good a decision maker ever. He can dribble and penetrate at his own speed , throw a skip pass , jump in the passing lane for a steal , come from behind to swipe a steal from a big man posting down low , can handle the ball and set up the offense as he has had the ball in his hands as much as Paul, he can rebound and box out taller guys. You name it , it has been on display.
For those of you not at the games , he is already the vocal leader that the team listens to and directs instructions to coming out of timeouts and during pauses between plays. I would be shocked if it didn’t continue in BiG 10 play but will likely be defended better.
What is very clear , is he is a player and on most nights will be the best all around player on the court and that includes Cliff.
For those of you not at the games , he is already the vocal leader that the team listens to and directs instructions to coming out of timeouts and during pauses between plays. I would be shocked if it didn’t continue in BiG 10 play but will likely be defended better.
What is very clear , is he is a player and on most nights will be the best all around player on the court and that includes Cliff.
Not even in the same universe as to all around game .
This is getting silly. Being ‘the best’ is a very rare accomplishment. He looked great in 2 games. Let him play a full season before we say “best since….”
not comparing the two. But the thing that was at times frustrating about Geo and even Harper was that they could have a great game against a really good team and then a shitty game against a bad team. It really wasn’t dependent on the competition. There were games when Geo could not hit a shot no matter how wide open.Still Geo was awesome and Harper too. As far as Spencer the signs are good but only better competition and time will tell. And that goes for the entire team.
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Agreed
On Geo, He never reached his full potential
his lack of consistency was a hallmark. There were time last year especially early we were a better team without him.
The team the year before had chemistry issues. That has a lot to do with the leader, No?
I am done talking about Geo, onward and upward!!!
Not sure your point. Posts are comparing to Baker. Posts are comparing to Kiss.
I never used the words best ever. I said Cam and Kiss aren't close when comparing overall game.
Clearly you are sad about NIL. Just say that rather then talking about his game.
Love the addition of Cam. Great shot, great feet, great hands, great vision and IQ. Want to see him and Simpson in the backcourt together. Simpson is the real deal as a true fresh.
Geo is one of the greatest Scarlet Knights of all time and important part of the seismic change this program has made since Coach P took over seven years ago.
Let’s enjoy the ride.
GO RU
Geo is one of the greatest Scarlet Knights of all time and important part of the seismic change this program has made since Coach P took over seven years ago.
Let’s enjoy the ride.
GO RU
Exactly. I realize it’s human nature to make comparisons but we should appreciate Geo for what he gave us when he played and we should appreciate Cam and others for what they’re giving us now.
People make the comparison because Kiss transferred in after being freshman of the year and a high scorer at a lower level of D-1, similar to Spencer, albeit much younger. Kiss also looked great early, but then fizzled against Big 10 competition. Kiss then transferred back to a lower level and was absolutely dominant. So, it is reasonable to want to see Cam perform at this level against Big 10 teams before getting all giddy. Spencer looks great so far, but so did Kiss in the OCC schedule. Simple as that.
We have some really weird fans.
I like everything I have seen from Cam. Just does so many things right. Right place all of the time. Never panics. Nice shooting touch inside and out.
Why on earth anyone would use this thread to continue trashing two of our best players who brought us to the dance 3 years in a row is mind boggling. Moronic is being too nice. I’m in a great mood so I’ll leave it at moronic.
I like everything I have seen from Cam. Just does so many things right. Right place all of the time. Never panics. Nice shooting touch inside and out.
Why on earth anyone would use this thread to continue trashing two of our best players who brought us to the dance 3 years in a row is mind boggling. Moronic is being too nice. I’m in a great mood so I’ll leave it at moronic.
I am getting the feeling that Cam is going to have the affect on RU that Andrew Gaze had for Seton Hall way back when.
Each of the last two NCAA tourney runs ended with Geo not being clkutch at all. If he hits the shot awith a secong left against Notre Dame at the end of regulation, Rutgers moves on. As for his meltdown toards the end of the Houston game (I think a foul, a missed shot, and two turnovers (one unforced) in the last two minutes, if he only makes just 2 of those mistakes, Rutgers moves on. Not sure what the definiton of "clutch" is but ending the season with bad plays should really be a consideration in calling Geo "clutch".
SMH. Geo lives rent free in quite a few heads on this board. Some folks are triggered about Geo accolades to the point of being comical.
You’re right. A “clutch” player can never miss or make a mistake. Perfection required.
My definition of a clutch player:
When given the ball by the coach to make the big shot in the NCAA tournament, the clutch player makes that shot.
A player who misses that shot is "not clutch". That's pretty simple.
When given the opportunity two years in a row by his coach to make the big shot to advance his team in the NCAA tourney, Geo missed those shots.
By definition that makes him "not clutch".
So to be a clutch player you need to hit that shot 100% of the time? You are a pretty tough grader.
Hey man at the end of the day i was just doing what the coaches were telling me to do 😂 if you think back, my role was honestly different every year. My 4th year i was just running to the corner and spacing the floor every game because that’s what was asked of me. Can’t call my play stagnant when I’m 2nd all time in assists lol.
i agree about Caleb. Going to be really interesting to see how he meshes with the unit once he’s back. It’s not easy to do because everyone else is in a Rhythm right now
Haters gonna hate Geo.
You know that 99% of RU fans appreciated everything you did on the court.
Thank you for the insight on TKR. 👍
