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One book had it at 0.The men with the eyeshades may have thought that Rettig was going to start.
 
Wow, based on the results of the first games, how can they think this? If you factor in the usual 3pt. for the home team, they have us as dogs.
I don't usually get into the lack of respect thing, but we are getting none at all.
 
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You earn respect by beating legitimate teams. Too many people thinking next week will be similar to the past week. Leach will be throwing the ball all over the place testing our secondary. We will need sustained and productive drives.
 
RU will be playing 3 or 4 very inexperienced CBs against a spread passing attack that will challenge all over the field. Hopefully things will look better than the 2013 defensive backfield. RU will need to dominate the LOS on both sides of the ball and score a lot points. They need to run the ball well and no turnovers.
 
That line makes no sense to me. So we'd be 4 pt underdogs if the game was on the road? Crazy. Maybe some of the movement is knowing Hamilton is out?
 
I doubt it has anything to do with the RU QB situation.

It probably has everything to do with WSU QB's Falk. Sounds like the guys in the pinstripe suits think he'll be cleared to play.
I think you're right. Everything to do with the QB, but not Rutgers' QBs.
 
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They 're basing it on the new DB' s ...Hamilton out and the fact we have had some emotional weeks thanks to a few former players and media dweebs.
 
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Unless our secondary learns their coverages assignments, this one will be a lot closer than it should be.

I mean our DBs were blowing coverage left and right against Norfolk. Wazzou qb will have more time compared to Norfolk.
 
Flood will be back in 2016...even if we win less than 6....and we won't win less than 6
 
Unless our secondary learns their coverages assignments, this one will be a lot closer than it should be.

I mean our DBs were blowing coverage left and right against Norfolk. Wazzou qb will have more time compared to Norfolk.
I watched the game and Portland St. did a pretty good job of harassing Luke Falk when he went long. I think our line might be a tad bit better then an FCS line. They do throw short a lot. Like under 5 yds.
 
People probably realize that we're playing against a top passing guru with 4 DB's missing and with a main pass rusher missing. Also, there may be an emotional let down after everything that went on last week.
 
Guys, the line changed because Falk practiced on the sideline and Leach said he was ok. It remains to be seen how he practices during the week but these guys seem to know stuff even reporters covering the team don't.

I believe thinking Rettig/Laviano has any effect is silly.

Floods status on the other hand would probably take the game off the board until it was resolved if that was a concern for the odds makers.
 
Or... maybe they are adjusting the line based on early betting in order to maximize their profits.

Nah... that couldn't be it.
Of course it isn't! Cool, logical analysis has no place on this board.
 
You earn respect by beating legitimate teams. Too many people thinking next week will be similar to the past week. Leach will be throwing the ball all over the place testing our secondary. We will need sustained and productive drives.
So what exactly has WSU done to earn respect? They lost to an FCS team. We beat them last year on the road.
 
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Or... maybe they are adjusting the line based on early betting in order to maximize their profits.

Nah... that couldn't be it.
Yes - duh. Thanks for the insight. Now go back to your hotels.com commercials.

We all understand that once the initial line is set, its not actually the guys in Vegas deciding where the line goes. But it still leads to the same question - what is it that people outside of RU fans are seeing (be they the initial line setters or gamblers) that is leading them to think that RU, on a neutral field, is WORSE than WSU.
 
Maybe it's that all people from outside see about Rutgers are media reports that "our FB program is in shambles", and the "we have the worst athletic dept in the FBS, and it's not close".
 
Maybe it's that all people from outside see about Rutgers are media reports that "our FB program is in shambles", and the "we have the worst athletic dept in the FBS, and it's not close".


This.

National perception due to recent events will move the number in a strong way against RU right now.

I've been on enough sports forums lately to get the impression that the average football fan thinks we are a circus that can barely field a team. The fact that WSU got beat by a weak FCS program and we smoked ours is completely drowned out by the non-stop negative articles on RU (some of which are extremely hyperbolic and over-the-top negative).

Actual on field performance of RU and our opponents will take a few games to correct this. Money to be made here though. If you like betting RU (I don't bet, but like to follow these things), don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
 
how about the opening line was before Falk being announced he will play, and the line moved with people betting that he was good enough to have WSU cover the 5 pt spread...thus, the line moves with fans betting on this.
 
Yes - duh. Thanks for the insight. Now go back to your hotels.com commercials.

We all understand that once the initial line is set, its not actually the guys in Vegas deciding where the line goes. But it still leads to the same question - what is it that people outside of RU fans are seeing (be they the initial line setters or gamblers) that is leading them to think that RU, on a neutral field, is WORSE than WSU.
Not getting the hotels.com commercials reference.

Also I'm unconvinced that everybody posting in this thread understands that betting lines don't necessarily accurately reflect a team's chances to win a game.

IIRC, the early lines on our games last season were frequently off, especially at the start of the season. As for what gamblers are thinking, who knows. I know that I won't start adjusting my expectations for the season until after the PSU game.
 
as if really "serious" gamblers are among some of the posters above
 
For the line to drop 3 or 4 points means that way tooooo much money was going on WSU. A two point spread at home means that RU is actually an underdog. A pickem would be RU -3.5. The wise guys could care less which way you bet, all they want is the same number of guys betting on both teams. Rutgers is in bit of a bind with this CB situation which is why I envision Flood using a dime package and only rushing three DT. I may be wrong but if they start picking the secondary apart he will have to make adjustments. I still think RU is going to win the game.
 
Not getting the hotels.com commercials reference.

Also I'm unconvinced that everybody posting in this thread understands that betting lines don't necessarily accurately reflect a team's chances to win a game.

IIRC, the early lines on our games last season were frequently off, especially at the start of the season. As for what gamblers are thinking, who knows. I know that I won't start adjusting my expectations for the season until after the PSU game.
Th betting line is actually consistently the best predictor in aggregate (I assume the final line - since it reflects the individual money spending decisions.) both week to week and season long, although like all predictors - its worse early in the season.

https://twitter.com/CaptainObvious
 
Th betting line is actually consistently the best predictor in aggregate (I assume the final line - since it reflects the individual money spending decisions.) both week to week and season long, although like all predictors - its worse early in the season.

https://twitter.com/CaptainObvious
Ah, I knew it was something like that but didn't make the connection to hotels.com.
 
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Rutgers is in bit of a bind with this CB situation which is why I envision Flood using a dime package and only rushing three DT. I may be wrong but if they start picking the secondary apart he will have to make adjustments. I still think RU is going to win the game.

Just curious but shouldn't we at least stay with nickel packages instead since most of what I read is to control the LOS? So wouldn't the dime make that harder unless we're dialing up a ton of corner and safety blitzes?

Remember, I'm a former band geek so this is a serious question....
 
The guys I know who bet on this stuff are putting their dinero on WSU.
I hope they regret doing so.
wow thats scary as i used to make a decent living doing that and the flats....they're not stupid about where they lay their money. If i was still doing that I'd of had RU as a 'LOCK'.....we'll soon see who knows their business. This makes me nervous.
 
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