So this is the real thing to be watching this year. The staff needs to recruit well. It may be incremental but it has to happen. There are almost theee months to signing day and during that time the staff has to keep players and, if possible, add more good ones. These two decommits are not good. Let's hope that they are the exception. It'll be hard to keep good players on board in this atmosphere. But recruiting is hard. And this is what always has to happen to turn a bad team around. Another butt whipping or two will make it even harder. The staff has to be right about the strong relationships they claim to have with their recruits.
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If you go purely by stats- Martin is at 5.2 vs 5.4 last year. Goodwin, I believe less than 2 yds per carry last year...
And now let's also throw out stats because there is so much more going on. This offense at the moment stinks. It is predicated on a running QB vs last year which was pro-set. We have had 1/2 a game with a running QB.
And I never said He was a good coach as I am not sure about that yet. But to throw it on him is as silly as blaming him for decommits last year which is just absurd
Right because recruits are decommitting because of what some old guys say on a message board. They're having no doubts about what they see on the field, losing 49-zip to a 2-7 team for example had nothing to do with it. Fanboy logic
Figured it was only a matter of time with this one. He's been the #2 guy with his foot out the door for a while now, with Taylor being the #1 contender in that category...and both have flown.
Such is the world of college recruiting. Kids who believe in the coaches and the future of Rutgers football will stay, kids who don't won't. -And with these two, since it was pretty clear the writing was on the wall with both, better they're gone now while there's still time to evaluate quality prospects to replace them then to have them flip the day before NSD.
Hey, it never feels good to lose a commit, (not that the term "commit" has much, if any, meaning these days), but it happens everywhere, even with the "name" programs. So, after a venting period for those who need it, the program moves on and the staff brings in prospects who truly want to be here. That's simply the way things are, (frustrating as that can be), when you're dealing with teen athletes these days.
Such is the world of college recruiting. Kids who believe in the coaches and the future of Rutgers football will stay, kids who don't won't. -And with these two, since it was pretty clear the writing was on the wall with both, better they're gone now while there's still time to evaluate quality prospects to replace them then to have them flip the day before NSD.
Hey, it never feels good to lose a commit, (not that the term "commit" has much, if any, meaning these days), but it happens everywhere, even with the "name" programs. So, after a venting period for those who need it, the program moves on and the staff brings in prospects who truly want to be here. That's simply the way things are, (frustrating as that can be), when you're dealing with teen athletes these days.
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A lot of folks here are getting bent out of shape when, just like Taylor, we knew this guy was looking around and wanted to leave for a while now. Glad the drama with him is over with. Now get people that WANT to be here, like Devin Darrington.
Do you really want to compare decommits from schools that have other guys lining up to take their place?
Go to the Micah Clark thread, click on the link to his twitter account, see his Oct 30 and Nov 12 tweets.
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Every frickin year
The commitment system has to change because teenagers' word means absolutely nothing.
The commitment system has to change because teenagers' word means absolutely nothing.
It is the same way with all schools, there is nothing new at all. They are teenagers, they will change their minds a few times a day every week,
It is what it is.
As long as the colleges and universities are allowed to pull their scholarship offers its only right and fair that the kids can pull their commitments.
If the pendulum was swinging Rutgers way, it would be a good system.
As it stands now, it's not except for the few cases that RU was able to flip another program's commit instead of programs flipping Rutgers commits .
Winning programs usally keep those they need and lose the ones worried about playing time.
I think programs like Rutgers don't lose many worried about playing time, but worry if RU can win enough to make being part of the program fun.
Need to get a name proven OC ,someone kids know and want to play for.With a staff made up of assistants,from out of state,RU needs to hire a proven OC. Without wins,and a proven offense RU needs more to sell then a vision to RBs,WRs and QBs of the future.
also hire Acosta for in state Recruiting Coach Ash.
also hire Acosta for in state Recruiting Coach Ash.
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Yeah, you're missing the point too. Which, given the antipathy you formed towards the new staff before they were even in NJ, is not even the slightest bit surprising.
Honestly, I don't even see why you post here anymore. Based on your posts, there's no way anybody could call you a fan of the program these days. The team could win a national championship and you'd be telling us what a mistake we made not hiring Golden while massaging your groin.
http://www.nj.com/hssn-mms/2016/11/njs_1000-yard_rushers_for_2016.html#2
Lots of 1000 yard rushers in NJ..
Lots of 1000 yard rushers in NJ..
I feel your pain, but -- Some kids love the attention, and milk the current system. As you recall, we got played in a major and embarrassing way last year by a kid who eventually flipped at the last minute (garnering even more attention). Who knows if he ever seriously planned to come to Maryland.
But I don't blame the kids, even in that case. The system is what it is, and the recruits are begged, cajoled and coerced to "commit" long before it is what the rest of the world considers to be a legal and valid commitment. The kids didn't choose that word.
For the most part I try to ignore recruiting in every sport. It just feels weird to me to hang on every word from a high school kid. I'm okay with waiting to see who's on the field on opening day.
Would it bother you less if they called it going steady? Would that stop you from judging a recruits word. Let be honest every coach and recruit knows a verbal is not binding and things change. That why schools will continue to recruit other players and the commuted player.
You just can't shut up, can you? I have an idea, why don't you hire a plane to fly a banner all over NJ saying "RU coaches suck, don't come here".
Any way I can get my hands on the whole list? Want to be prepared for what lies ahead.
Listen, I'm joking, but let's be honest here. Losing any commit sucks, because the coaches thought they could contribute to our future success. But I'm encouraged that the top recruits have held firm. If they start to waver, I'd be worried. But I always look at the lower ranked top NJ recruits (in the 25-30 range) as most likely to use us as a placeholder while they hope to attract attention from their first choices.
Agree. Although Rutgers fans think it only happens here, it is a lot more common around the country than they realize.
Nah, that was like 2002 or 2003. Then it was hooking up. Now I don't know what it's called.
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe at least 3 members of the '16 class were originally committed elsewhere
Mildone has been hitting the nail on the head this whole thread. A short sighted person is looking at this exchange and saying "How does one stupid post on a message board have any effect on a recruit?"
One post may not have a direct effect but collectively they are noticed. They may not be read by the recruit per se but it has been evident for awhile now that this forum has been a sounding board/temp gauge for other media outlets. It is pretty safe to say that any news that riles the crowd here is then reprinted via publication, social media etc.
Applying a negative tone to a post/article/tweet/etc has a multiplying effect as it raises hackles and people on both sides of the argument are compelled to respond. Views then go up, the content is reprinted and it has a cascading effect. - At this point it is being noticed by recruits/family/friends/etc.
We are rebuilding and the program needs support so go ahead and do that in whatever way you can.
If you find that the best release to your tension is to disparage others then I would recommend hitting a heavy bag or any form of exercise.
One post may not have a direct effect but collectively they are noticed. They may not be read by the recruit per se but it has been evident for awhile now that this forum has been a sounding board/temp gauge for other media outlets. It is pretty safe to say that any news that riles the crowd here is then reprinted via publication, social media etc.
Applying a negative tone to a post/article/tweet/etc has a multiplying effect as it raises hackles and people on both sides of the argument are compelled to respond. Views then go up, the content is reprinted and it has a cascading effect. - At this point it is being noticed by recruits/family/friends/etc.
We are rebuilding and the program needs support so go ahead and do that in whatever way you can.
If you find that the best release to your tension is to disparage others then I would recommend hitting a heavy bag or any form of exercise.
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I agree. But it should be called something else besides a "commitment".
It's not a commitment. Not sure what it is...but it's definitely NOT a commitment.
not what I said Drama Queen,I said Im fine with Ash as HC and running defense. Just think Merhinnger is not someone who attracts recruits due to his past resume,or this years results. Hire a proven Power 5 O Cord,it would help in recruiting and the staff as a whole experience wise.
not sure how you are fine with Ash being D coach either to be honest. He's seen the B10, should be intimately familiar with them and look at what his D has done. As much as GS pi$$ed me off, at least he had nice D most of the time (spread not included)
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