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Mack flips to Indiana, Bah to Rutgers

So here is the question of the day we go from Pro set to the spread and 2 WRs drop Rutgers for two inferior academic and athletic (football wise) that also run a spread. What was Ash selling that the WR did not want surely not getting more catches in the spread.
Oh yes mr mack I hope you enjoy getting your ass wiped by RU and I could say Ash did not push hard on mack as an 11 hour sneaking out the back door tells me you are the type of "character" player we are NOT looking for!
 
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Wide reciever talent on the roster as of today is almost Mac level. Ash, I can only pray learned alot these last three weeks how Jersey recruiting works and will make the needed adjustments,additions with the staff.This left a big question mark about Ash in my mind.. Next year will really be telling..no more two stars and kids with div1aa offers please.
 
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So here is the question of the day we go from Pro set to the spread and 2 WRs drop Rutgers for two inferior academic and athletic (football wise) that also run a spread. What was Ash selling that the WR did not want surely not getting more catches in the spread.
Oh yes mr mack I hope you enjoy getting your ass wiped by RU and I could say Ash did not push hard on mack as an 11 hour sneaking out the back door tells me you are the type of "character" player we are NOT looking for!

Maybe those 2 kids didn't want to play ST's to earn their stripes and, if so, I'm more than fine with them going elsewhere.
 
Maybe those 2 kids didn't want to play ST's to earn their stripes and, if so, I'm more than fine with them going elsewhere.
Would you have been cool with one of OSU's top commits doing the same to Rutgers? Would that tell you enough about them to say you wouldnt want them?
 
This is bizarre. There are like 2 or 3 BCS programs that we can definitely "look down" on....Indiana and Colorado, for sure, maybe Wake and Vandy although they have great academics to recruit with. I just don't get it.
 
Would you have been cool with one of OSU's top commits doing the same to Rutgers? Would that tell you enough about them to say you wouldnt want them?

I couldn't care less about the reason one of OSU's guys flipped to us. What a dumb question.
 
So here is the question of the day we go from Pro set to the spread and 2 WRs drop Rutgers for two inferior academic and athletic (football wise) that also run a spread. What was Ash selling that the WR did not want surely not getting more catches in the spread.
Oh yes mr mack I hope you enjoy getting your ass wiped by RU and I could say Ash did not push hard on mack as an 11 hour sneaking out the back door tells me you are the type of "character" player we are NOT looking for!
I guess Mack can Join,Wright and Harmon,along with three other Wr's this staff couldnt land.
 
So here is the question of the day we go from Pro set to the spread and 2 WRs drop Rutgers for two inferior academic and athletic (football wise) that also run a spread. What was Ash selling that the WR did not want surely not getting more catches in the spread.
Oh yes mr mack I hope you enjoy getting your ass wiped by RU and I could say Ash did not push hard on mack as an 11 hour sneaking out the back door tells me you are the type of "character" player we are NOT looking for!


Can't get inside his head - so can't know his thinking - - but some talented kids have a internal sense of where they fit - they may want to play & are talented - but they can gauge whether or not they will see the field in a given program .... and sometimes, if they identify a program where they feel that they are a match - - and then there is a coaching change - and the new coaching staff has higher credentials and is communicating that they are determined to dramatically elevate the program .... they start to sense that their time on the field - might be modest at first and then almost non existent - as the staff recruits over them.
Ash is looking for talented guy WITH TENACITY - ones who like look at this kind of situation & say "so ?" bring in whoever you want ... you are still going to want me on the field because I will prevail - I will put catch, run, hit as well or better than whoever you put me up against.
 
In three years we have four WR commits...Blunt, Owens, Bah, and Bailey. Am I forgetting anyone? That is very not good....nothing against those guys, but purely on a numbers basis. That is...double plus not good. For a spread team? Triple not good.
 
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I couldn't care less about the reason one of OSU's guys flipped to us. What a dumb question.
Then why state that Mack's flip showed the type of "Character" player you are NOT looking for? You said it, so obviously you have a double standard or are just being a sourpuss over Mack.
 
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Indiana wants me, lord I cant go back there. Something lured him there, playing close to home wasn't enough of a draw to him to come here. No one recruit in my mind is worth getting upset about losing. Time will tell if this was a result of a new staff or they have trouble recruiting. My bet is on Ash and staff for the future.
 
In three years we have four WR commits...Blunt, Owens, Bah, and Bailey. Am I forgetting anyone? That is very not good....nothing against those guys, but purely on a numbers basis. That is...double plus not good. For a spread team? Triple not good.

Yeah imagine this our 1st and 2nd team guys are upper-classmen: Grant, Tsimis, Patton, Agudoz and Mathews. Absolute "position-of-need" for 2017 class.. Fill it up next year and we'll be fine (especially if you can get a transfer/juco or two).
 
Maybe being coached by Zak Khur wasn't a big draw to some of these guys.
His resume does exactly what to give these recruits confidence ?
 
In three years we have four WR commits...Blunt, Owens, Bah, and Bailey. Am I forgetting anyone? That is very not good....nothing against those guys, but purely on a numbers basis. That is...double plus not good. For a spread team? Triple not good.

Harris, probably the best guy from last year, and Jabbie.
 
Then why state that Mack's flip showed the type of "Character" player you are NOT looking for? You said it, so obviously you have a double standard or are just being a sourpuss over Mack.

First off I didn't say a word about the kid's "character" so, please, don't put words in my mouth. Second, if Ash were the HC here, and the kid said "I don't want to play ST's to earn time on O," then he wouldn't be flipping here regardless of where it was from so, again, stupid question IMHO.
 
Every freshman is expected to play special teams. I think he just likes Indiana better than Rutgers as a school/campus.
 
Easy for you to say...you can always fall back on rooting for West Virginia.

And you can always be banned again and have to come back as yet another "character".

This isn't rocket science. Mack visited last weekend. While details are not specifically known, it is known that there were some behavioral irregularities. It is strongly believed, but not confirmed, that some offers were pulled as a result.

You can choose to believe that Ash couldn't close a kid who cancelled a PSU visit to come to RU. Or you can choose to understand that there may be an alternate explanation for why he suddenly flipped to the worst team in the conference.
 
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happy for Bah and excited to see the new offense. Don't give a shit about any kid who flips, hope they stay healthy and get an education.
 
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And you can always be banned again and have to come back as yet another "character".

This isn't rocket science. Mack visited last weekend. While details are not specifically known, it is known that there were some behavioral irregularities. It is strongly believed, but not confirmed, that some offers were pulled as a result.

You can choose to believe that Ash couldn't close a kid who cancelled a PSU visit to come to RU. Or you can choose to understand that there may be an alternate explanation for why he suddenly flipped to the worst team in the conference.

Hey man, I was just joshin' ya. Thought you'd find it funny. I always find you a pleasant voice of sobriety on the football side of things when things approach meltdown mode on the board.
 
This is bizarre. There are like 2 or 3 BCS programs that we can definitely "look down" on....Indiana and Colorado, for sure, maybe Wake and Vandy although they have great academics to recruit with. I just don't get it.

What did you base your opinion on?
 
Every freshman is expected to play special teams. I think he just likes Indiana better than Rutgers as a school/campus.

Yes, but that's NOT the case at every school - and in this program where it's not both, it's "earn" your playing time on O or D - so maybe I'm right, or wrong, just throwing it out there about a few kids who left for elsewhere.
 
And you can always be banned again and have to come back as yet another "character".

This isn't rocket science. Mack visited last weekend. While details are not specifically known, it is known that there were some behavioral irregularities. It is strongly believed, but not confirmed, that some offers were pulled as a result.

You can choose to believe that Ash couldn't close a kid who cancelled a PSU visit to come to RU. Or you can choose to understand that there may be an alternate explanation for why he suddenly flipped to the worst team in the conference.
You are so full of crap it is not funny! You make crap up to fit your agenda. Now with every player that decommits it is a character issue.

Maybe it's Ash can't recruit, has no persona, has not NJ ties, has no RU ties. Hired a staff full of NO NJ ties. The only kids we are getting have no D1 offers.

Year there is a behavioral issue and it is with Ash, his staff and people like you that can't see the disaster that Ash had created in 2 months.
 
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And you can always be banned again and have to come back as yet another "character".

This isn't rocket science. Mack visited last weekend. While details are not specifically known, it is known that there were some behavioral irregularities. It is strongly believed, but not confirmed, that some offers were pulled as a result.

You can choose to believe that Ash couldn't close a kid who cancelled a PSU visit to come to RU. Or you can choose to understand that there may be an alternate explanation for why he suddenly flipped to the worst team in the conference.

...or this and, while not hearing about Mack, in particular, there has absolutely been plenty of talk alluding to the fact that several offers were "pulled" because kids simply couldn't behave themselves while on campus.
 
Then why state that Mack's flip showed the type of "Character" player you are NOT looking for? You said it, so obviously you have a double standard or are just being a sourpuss over Mack.

The fact he did not pull back from his previous RU commit is the issue; I had no problem with Wright as he pull back after spending a weekend with Ash and said no thanks
mack skulked away like a thief in the night. HAVE so some BALL kid, if you did not like the staff say it; be a man not a night burglar
I understand Flood vs. Ash as coaches go are like day and night.
Hell if I was a kid I know I could coast on Flood (see barnwell he coasted and shit on Flood) and enjoy 4 years under him
As for all the decommits. it is too high just to be a different coach but more an upheaval in how thing will be done here i.e. fight of flight.
So let's not be too disappointed in all the lost talent (it was not that big anyway, only the kicker, Russo and Rene, 3 losses) the rest are replaceable and a few pickups have been an upgrade take the kid from Tx maybe a mack match (TBD) he got the speed
1 Oden will ~= Russo as he is better suited for the new O, Rene hell with the Michigan corner/RB with 2 year of eligibility and he is ready to play now. This is actually an up grade short term.
Yes for what should have been an coaching upgrade I would have expected less decommits and more schiano type surpises.
But I will be honest I do not recall schiano first (2 mont ) recruiting class being anything to write home about.
 
You are so full of crap it is not funny! You make crap up to fit your agenda. Not with every player that decommits it is a character issue.

Maybe it's Ash can't recruit, has not persona, has not NJ ties, has no RU ties. Hired a staff full of NO NJ ties. The only kids we are getting have no D1 offers.

Year there is a behavioral issue and it is with Ash, his staff and people like you that can't see the disaster that Ash had created in 2 months.

I have no agenda.

You, on the other hand, have anger issues coupled with an inability to put together a coherent sentence. Seriously, hire a proofreader. Or a ghostwriter. Or just find something else to do with your time.

For now, you're going on "Ignore". I've had enough Retardation by Interwebz.
 
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