Magic Number is 2

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Here is your selection committee...

• Mitch Barnhart, director of athletics, University of Kentucky
• Tom Burnett, commissioner, Southland Conference
• Janet Cone, director of athletics, University of North Carolina Asheville
• Bernadette McGlade, commissioner, Atlantic 10 Conference
• Michael O’Brien, vice president and director of athletics, University of Toledo
• Jim Phillips, vice president for athletics and recreation, Northwestern University
• Chris Reynolds, vice president for intercollegiate athletics, Bradley University
• Craig Thompson, commissioner, Mountain West Conference
• Kevin White, director of athletics, Duke University

The conflict rules say a conference commissioner cannot be in the room when any team from his conference is discussed. Specific school's reps cannot discuss their school.

This allows, say, Jim Phillips from NorthWestern to be in the room when Big Ten teams are discussed. Do you think he goes in there with some understanding of what the conference might want? I do not know but I'd be a bit surprised if, say, they are discussing 2 Big Ten teams with similar resumes as to where each should be and for him to not have an opinion that might involve finish in the standings.

I think a lot of people on that committee may or may not have a bias as to conference records. If it is all NET ranking that why not just use that? Why have a committee that may have their own reasoning and biases as to how they value various criteria?

 

[bac2therac]

The NET is a sorting tool not a selection tool

Things like sos

Record vs teams in field

Q1 and q2 wins

Road wins

Eye test

 

[Scangg]

One criteria is how you do vs teams "in" the tourney..thats the real value of the SFA win

What's our record vs projected teams to make the tournament?

 

[bac2therac]

What's our record vs projected teams to make the tournament?

6-5 i think assuming Minny out and Ind/Pur in

Any win/loss from here on adds to that record

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

One criteria is how you do vs teams "in" the tourney..thats the real value of the SFA win

assuming SFA wins out.

they are Bart underdogs to albeliene christian

 

[bac2therac]

assuming SFA wins out.

they are Bart underdogs to albeliene christian

not in conference tourney they wont be

 

[biazza38]

If we only win 2 more regular season games and then get immediately bounced in the B1G tournament, then I believe we would get left out. Going 3-8 in the final 11 games would hurt our perception immensely.

I think we need 3 more regular season wins and get to an 11-9 conference record to punch our ticket.

If we finish with less than 3 wins, then I think we would need a win or two in the tournament.

That’s not how it works. No bubble team would do any better with our schedule. It’s the hardest schedule for the final 7 games

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

6-5 i think assuming Minny out and Ind/Pur in

Any win/loss from here on adds to that record

Indiana doesn’t look good.

 

[RutgersNYCB1G]

The premise of this thread is completely false. Rutgers needs 3 more wins to get in if they get a quality road win and 4 if they don't.

Edit: For the people saying "wrong" and acting arrogant about RU's tournament chances: please let us how long you've been on the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee. Thanks.

 

[fluoxetine]

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[seels2662]

Two wins is definitely the magic number. We will actually stay in the 30's on the NET, the SOS goes way up on those last seven games.

 

[RU848789]

The premise of this thread is completely false. Rutgers needs 3 more wins to get in if they get a quality road win and 4 if they don't.

Wrong. 3 more is a lock. 2 more is likely in but not a lock...a second road win certainly helps.

 

[bac2therac]

The premise of this thread is completely false. Rutgers needs 3 more wins to get in if they get a quality road win and 4 if they don't.

11-9 in the Big 10 is a lock

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

11-9 in the Big 10 is a lock

I know the last 10 is not a thing.....

IF we win our next 3 and lose our last 5 with 3 of them being blowouts i'd still be quite nervous Sunday night.

the likelihood of that happening is quite small.

 

[bac2therac]

Dont be..are you nervous that Notre Dame or Mississippi State or Georgetown will take our spot

 

[Big boy stan]

Wrong. 3 more is a lock. 2 more is likely in but not a lock...a second road win certainly helps.

I mostly agree with this but all wins are not equal.

- If we go 2 and 5 with wins against Maryland and PSU, we are a lock.
- f we go 2 and 5 with wins against Ill and Mich, I would be worried.

 

[bac2therac]

2 wins may be enough but we will not know that until we see what everyone else does...going to take two more weeks of play to get a good read

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

The premise of this thread is completely false. Rutgers needs 3 more wins to get in if they get a quality road win and 4 if they don't.

Edit: For the people saying "wrong" and acting arrogant about RU's tournament chances: please let us how long you've been on the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee. Thanks.

You first.

 

[BillyC80]

Everybody emphasizes road wins, but if we go undefeated at home that means we’re not a road win for anybody, including ranked teams and teams with good NET scores.

It looks like the only non-NCAA B1G team we would have played on the road is Nebraska, who we beat. What’s the shame of losing close games to NCAA-bound B1G teams on the road if we beat those same teams at home?

 

[bac2therac]

you see why that loss to St Bonnies hurt because had RU won that game, there is a big difference having 2 road/neutral wins than 1. It would kill two birds with one stone...no Q3 loss and another road win. That truly was a what the **** moment of the season. Not that we lost but how we lost...but actually it follows the pattern of some other games, notably Northwestern, St Bonnies shredded us early with open 3s went up at least 18 and RU came back with strong D in the 2nd half, I think got it to 3 before losing.

 

[RutgHoops]

The premise of this thread is completely false. Rutgers needs 3 more wins to get in if they get a quality road win and 4 if they don't.

Edit: For the people saying "wrong" and acting arrogant about RU's tournament chances: please let us how long you've been on the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee. Thanks.

If you think an 11-9 B1G team misses the NCAA tournament this year then you simply aren't following closely enough.

I personally think 10-10 this year will be enough, but 11-9 is an absolute stone cold lock.

 

[RU848789]

The premise of this thread is completely false. Rutgers needs 3 more wins to get in if they get a quality road win and 4 if they don't.

Edit: For the people saying "wrong" and acting arrogant about RU's tournament chances: please let us how long you've been on the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee. Thanks.

Probably as long as you have. But bac has been doing his tourney picks for 10+ years and is pretty damn good at it and he's convinced 3 more wins to get to 11-9 in the B1G is a lock, so that's good enough corroboration for me. Have also seen some media folks say we need "2 or 3 more wins" - haven't seen one source say we need 4 more.

 

[bowlgoal]

you see why that loss to St Bonnies hurt because had RU won that game, there is a big difference having 2 road/neutral wins than 1. It would kill two birds with one stone...no Q3 loss and another road win. That truly was a what the **** moment of the season. Not that we lost but how we lost...but actually it follows the pattern of some other games, notably Northwestern, St Bonnies shredded us early with open 3s went up at least 18 and RU came back with strong D in the 2nd half, I think got it to 3 before losing.

Bonnies were unconscious just like NW. We couldn't hit a FT to save our lives and it just felt like a Bonaventure home game as their fans were loud. If you look at Bonnie's record now; after starting the season at 0-3, you can see they have recovered pretty well. They also have a nice looking point guard ( unfortunately from NJ) and we had problems with him. We are a better team and yes; that loss hurt but at some point we need to finish on the road and win another game here. Purdue found a way to dominate Indiana on the road over the weekend. Penn State has won at multiple places including Michigan State. Michigan beat us at what i would call a home game at MSG, etc. There are no NCAA games at the RAC so we need to learn how to do this and there's no better time than tomorrow night.

 

[goru7]

you see why that loss to St Bonnies hurt because had RU won that game, there is a big difference having 2 road/neutral wins than 1. It would kill two birds with one stone...no Q3 loss and another road win. That truly was a what the **** moment of the season. Not that we lost but how we lost...but actually it follows the pattern of some other games, notably Northwestern, St Bonnies shredded us early with open 3s went up at least 18 and RU came back with strong D in the 2nd half, I think got it to 3 before losing.

Except the Bonnie’s loss is not hurting us now. They are up to 113 in the net and looking at their schedule can win 5 in a row and they will be Quad 2 . Even if we won , we would be 2-6 on the road or neutral, so no one would give us credit for beating them on a neutral floor, especially where they were ranked and currently ranked. Almost every bubble team has worse Quad 3 losses and some like Duke has a so called bad Quad 3 home loss. Lots of teams have lost to unranked teams and a ton of them have lost at home to unranked teams. We are in really good shape. Beating Ohio State tomorrow night will stop all the nonsense and get everybody on board to root for a 6 or 7 seed.

 

[bac2therac]

its a quad 3 loss so yes, its not helping loss, one loss certainly doesnt kill resumes, if if didnt happen, we can point and say no loss out of Q1/.Q2

yes beating them on a neutral court would an extra win there so yes it would be huge....2 way better than 1 if it came down to tht.

 

[goru7]

its a quad 3 loss so yes, its not helping loss, one loss certainly doesnt kill resumes, if if didnt happen, we can point and say no loss out of Q1/.Q2

yes beating them on a neutral court would an extra win there so yes it would be huge....2 way better than 1 if it came down to tht.

Except no one on the committee is running to say what a great neutral court win it was by Rutgers , the better team who should have beat St. Bonnie’s. Yes it would be nice to have a neutral court win so 1-1 is better than 0-1, but do not seeing it giving us a great advantage. We have a very good resume so far, and I guess the doubters want to see a road win against a top 12 team in the Big 10 before they erase their doubts. So let’s get Ohio State tomorrow and end their doubt. Or will they say , if we lose the other 3, that we are 2-9 on the road and therefore they still have their doubts.

 

[bac2therac]

one road win will erase any doubt