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Mens Lax gets a shot clock

Transition athletes will like this. Premium on guys that can play both ends in spots...chess match on switches just got more interesting...
 
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FINALLY! We play good defense and our run and gun style with a shot clock will somewhat alleviate our woes at FOGO. Our defense simply wore out some games due to the lopsided faceoff differential and teams being able to control the ball for extended periods of times.
 
FINALLY! We play good defense and our run and gun style with a shot clock will somewhat alleviate our woes at FOGO. Our defense simply wore out some games due to the lopsided faceoff differential and teams being able to control the ball for extended periods of times.
We would've beat OSU back in April if the shot clock was on the whole time. Out of all the lax teams, the shot clock being on the whole time will benefit RU more than almost any other team.
 
Excellent news. The specialization is going to be less important. And controlling coaches are going to have a challenge.

Next is a two point line. Really good news though. This plays into our style and DNA. Coach Brecht wants to run.
Same distance as the MLL or a little closer?
The crease dive is legal again as well.
My son will like this. LOL
 
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It's been interesting reading social media tonight on the shot clock subject...lots of interesting takes.

One common theme seems to be that middies that can play defense and shoot very well and play both ends of the field will become prized commodities...

One theme that I don't like is that teams will sit back in zones on defense...just wait for teams to take bad shots or forced shots late in the clock

Having outside shooters that can stretch the field will be a nesecity...

This is going to be interesting...
 
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I did not read the link so not sure how/when the clock starts.

Is it 60 seconds as soon as you get possession like the MLL or something different?
 
60 seconds after the ball clears midfield. Teams have 20 seconds to clear.
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Better than nothing but would rather the clock start on possession no matter where you are on the field.
 
It's been interesting reading social media tonight on the shot clock subject...lots of interesting takes.

One common theme seems to be that middies that can play defense and shoot very well and play both ends of the field will become prized commodities...

One theme that I don't like is that teams will sit back in zones on defense...just wait for teams to take bad shots or forced shots late in the clock

Having outside shooters that can stretch the field will be a nesecity...

This is going to be interesting...
Definitely a concern, which is why they need a two point line. Just like hoops did with the 3 pointer.
 
I could see Notre Dame putting all 6 guys in the crease waiting out the shot clock. Few to the head might loosen them up.
 
I could see Notre Dame putting all 6 guys in the crease waiting out the shot clock. Few to the head might loosen them up.
That worked in “The Longest Yard” and with one of my Son’s fellow attackmen when the bigger opposing d pole kept burping on him during faceoffs...right in the cage. He stopped. LOL
 
I could see Notre Dame putting all 6 guys in the crease waiting out the shot clock. Few to the head might loosen them up.
Well you might be right...while it's no joke, my sons sophomore year in HS, he (not intentional of course) hit a pole in the head that crossed in the path of one of his steps downs....the kid took one step, wobbled and then collapsed on the field...he ended up ok (concussion of course), but point being if guys sit back, they're gonna end up taking a few 100mph shots in some bad spots...I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more already...with that said, I don't think guys are ever trying to hurt someone...
 
Baseball parallel of sorts. In HS, playing short, making a double play, throw hit a guy who didn't slide right in the forehead. Went down like a ton of bricks. Have no idea what happened to him. In college same play, a big tall guy came in & threw his hands up to make me throw around him & throw it away. Hit him right in the throat. Went down like a ton of bricks also. Don't know what happened to him either.
 
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Baseball parallel of sorts. In HS, playing short, making a double play throw hit a guy who didn't slide right in the forehead. Went down like a ton of bricks. Have no idea what happened to him. In college same play, a big tall guy came in & threw his hands up to make me throw around him & throw it away. Hit him right in the throat. Went down like a ton of bricks also. Don't know what happened to him either.
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Well you might be right...while it's no joke, my sons sophomore year in HS, he (not intentional of course) hit a pole in the head that crossed in the path of one of his steps downs....the kid took one step, wobbled and then collapsed on the field...he ended up ok (concussion of course), but point being if guys sit back, they're gonna end up taking a few 100mph shots in some bad spots...I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more already...with that said, I don't think guys are ever trying to hurt someone...

This stuff used to happen more. The game isn’t as physical as it once was, mostly because the ball is t on the turf has much. That’s where a lot of funny business happens. Lacrosse is good like that. If a guy who deserves something is likely to get it.
 
Would rather see them take away another pole, allow only 3, that would open up the offense more and actually force strategies on both offense and defense. But that is just me.
 
Would rather see them take away another pole, allow only 3, that would open up the offense more and actually force strategies on both offense and defense. But that is just me.
I could be wrong but that might be a MLL rule?
 
I would have preferred 90 seconds, I think FOGO will still exist to an extent, but all zone defense..
 
One common theme seems to be that middies that can play defense and shoot very well and play both ends of the field will become prized commodities...
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Another theme/change that I could see coming from these changes is a premium placed on fast, athletic goalies who can actively participate in clearing the ball upfield. It looks like they've knocked 10 seconds on the allowable time to clear and I could see teams really working on their rides. That ties in with middies who can play defense.

I don't see any change with respect to FOGOs because they can gain possession across the midfield line, go back into the defensive zone and as long as the ball gets back over the midfield line within 20 seconds they're good.

That being said, I still believe that the only addition to the shot clock should have been with a flag down (30 seconds).
 
Another theme/change that I could see coming from these changes is a premium placed on fast, athletic goalies who can actively participate in clearing the ball upfield. It looks like they've knocked 10 seconds on the allowable time to clear and I could see teams really working on their rides. That ties in with middies who can play defense.

I don't see any change with respect to FOGOs because they can gain possession across the midfield line, go back into the defensive zone and as long as the ball gets back over the midfield line within 20 seconds they're good.

That being said, I still believe that the only addition to the shot clock should have been with a flag down (30 seconds).

Either an athletic goalie who can run, or one like we have. One that can drop dimes on middies breaking out after shots. I've always been a proponent of goalies coming out of the cage, if they are able. It adds another dimension. But it's risky. Guys love going after goalies.
 
Either an athletic goalie who can run, or one like we have. One that can drop dimes on middies breaking out after shots. I've always been a proponent of goalies coming out of the cage, if they are able. It adds another dimension. But it's risky. Guys love going after goalies.
They have placed a premium on that for the past few years. The Touhy kid can definitely handle and throw andthey are looking at a 2021 who can handle and drops dimes from 50 yards away. I do not think we want the goalie coming out because we want him outletting as fast as possible. The kid Pounds who is coming in this year can also handle and throw.
 
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Good to hear. It's imperative with our style to have a goalie who can make stops and get the ball out to middies. Going to be fun times On the Banks!
 
Speaking of incoming talent in the pipeline, the LSM coming in the 2019 class from the Detroit area is very talented. Great stick, athletic, fast, can face off if needed, and is a competitor...I've watched him a lot. He played with my younger son in the summer. (Against him in the high school season) I think he's another kid that can help. Again we all know nothing is a lock, but he's a good one...
 
His video definitely checks out. Very much in the mold of guys that have been brought in. Can handle, picks up gb's, and can get out in transition. Practices are going to be fun to watch.
 
But not as risky as it used to be given today's officiating
I would beg to differ as I have seen several goalies just get lit up in the open field both in HS and in the Club scene.
 
I would beg to differ as I have seen several goalies just get lit up in the open field both in HS and in the Club scene.

I have no basis to comment on the HS or club scene, but on almost a weekly basis this year I saw hits at the D1 level called unnecessary roughness that even 5 years ago would have been righteous. Hits where the shoulder and forearm were strictly in contact with the chest of player hit, but the top of the helmet brushed the bottom of the hit player's facemask. I'm not talking about leading with the facemask or crown of the helmet. That's been called spearing forever.

Of particular relevance for goalies, and similar to players taking shots, things have also tightened with respect to how long after the pass/shot has been released the player can be hit. For years it was something similar to the old NFL one step-two step rule for pass rushers hitting the QB. One step after the pass it thrown was permitted contact. Two steps was a roughing penalty. Lacrosse refs have tightened that considerably, almost creating a new half step rule.

So that's what I was referring to with my comment about reduced risk.
 
But not as risky as it used to be given today's officiating
Guys with a clean shot on the goalie aren’t thinking about rules, lol. That’s a kill shot every time if you can get it. These guys are standing in front of 100 mph balls of hard rubber. They are at risk already.
 
Guys with a clean shot on the goalie aren’t thinking about rules, lol. That’s a kill shot every time if you can get it. These guys are standing in front of 100 mph balls of hard rubber. They are at risk already.

Well, at the risk of turning this into a circular argument, if they are that intent on the kill shot a quick and agile goalie will make them look silly. And, whether it's 90 or 100 mph, we've all stood in front of balls of hard rubber. That's one aspect of the game that really hasn't changed.
 
I didn't stand in front of many of them. Especially in practice. Those dudes get light up all the time.

I am for aggressive goalie play provided they are athletes, but stopping the ball and getting it out to the play makers is job 1A.
 
Headed to NJ on Sunday to drop off my son and get him situated in his new home...very excited for him to resume his college career at Rutgers...any food suggestions let me know...I like a good meal :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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