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Miami Hires Cristobal - Mistake IMO

Caliknight said:
He sucked at FIU. and wasn't that great at Oregon with every resource imaginable. Utah just ate his lunch.

Miami is getting played.

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Cristobal leaves Oregon to be Miami's new coach

Former Miami player and assistant coach and current Oregon head coach Mario Cristobal left the Ducks program on Monday to become the Hurricanes' new head coach.
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Homecoming for him
Its to be seen how it works
But miami is totally different animal than da u
He could actually succeed there
 
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Caliknight said:
He sucked at FIU. and wasn't that great at Oregon with every resource imaginable. Utah just ate his lunch.

Miami is getting played.

www.espn.com

Cristobal leaves Oregon to be Miami's new coach

Former Miami player and assistant coach and current Oregon head coach Mario Cristobal left the Ducks program on Monday to become the Hurricanes' new head coach.
www.espn.com
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Ate his lunch then went back for 2nd's in the championship game.
 
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vkj91 said:
He will recruit very well there. He will win a lot of games but he's not bringing home a Natty to them. If that's what they think they are buying they will be disappointed.
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Meant fiu is a different scenerio than da u
 
Caliknight said:
He sucked at FIU. and wasn't that great at Oregon with every resource imaginable. Utah just ate his lunch.

Miami is getting played.

www.espn.com

Cristobal leaves Oregon to be Miami's new coach

Former Miami player and assistant coach and current Oregon head coach Mario Cristobal left the Ducks program on Monday to become the Hurricanes' new head coach.
www.espn.com
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Cross-posted from the Coaching Carousel Thread (reference is to Thamel article on Yahoo):

Miami is the epitome of delusional.

From Diaz Yahoo article:

"Diaz, the son of a former Miami mayor, was given just three seasons with the Hurricanes before the school — which currently does not have an athletic director. . . "

"To get things turned around in 2020, Diaz hired Rhett Lashlee to run the offense and added D’Eriq King to play quarterback. It paid off as the Hurricanes moved into the top 10 amid an 8-1 start before closing the year with two losses.

King got hurt in the 2020 bowl game and then again early in 2021 as the team started 2-4. With King out, the Hurricanes pivoted to Tyler Van Dyke at quarterback. He had some early struggles, but he and the Miami offense put up big numbers as the season progressed."

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Tyler Van Dyke had a very solid freshman year. 2931 yards, 25 TDs, 6 INTs.

And let's look at their losses:

Alabama- can't count that against him.
Michigan State 38-17 (that's almost the same score RU lost by- we are as good as Miami!!!)-not a bad loss
Virginia 30-28
UNC 45-42 - really, no shame in losing by 3 points, but I guess so.
Florida State 31-28. Thou shalt not lose to Florida State in a down year?

Seriously, WTF with Miami fans and boosters? Three losses by 2-3 points each. Second place in the ACC Coastal. Three years into his tenure with his best QB out for the year gets the Mayor's son fired.

Was there something else Diaz did wrong?

Interesting comment by a reader under the story about Cristobal:

"Great recruiter, terrible coach, both in preparation and game management. FSU took "Slick Willie" off Oregon's hands, and Cristobal is just like him. Talks great, recruits great, but absolutely cannot coach, and will not let assistants do their job. Good luck Miami. Just like Florida State, you will rue this decision. In the long run, you have done Oregon a favor. Now they don't have to pay anything to fire him and you get to pay them to buy out his contract. It's a win - lose situation. Oregon wins, you lose."
 
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If the U invests like they look like they are willing to and poach Clemson's AD, we might just see the Hurricanes return to be among College Foosball's elite programs with Super Mario as the HC.
The Ducks were starting to go downward before he was hired, he then brought them back to being a top PAC program , just short of being the elite program they used to be .
 
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He will recruit very well imo but then what? That’s the question. He should’ve dominated the PAC12 the way Dabo dominated the ACC but he didn’t. The PAC12 was way down and ripe for picking to get into the playoffs yearly and he didn’t.

One thing in his favor is I wonder how well Clemson will handle the loss of Venables. They had a step back this year, is that a sign of what’s to come or just an exception. So the ACC could be ripe for the picking too maybe in the future. Can he take advantage this time?

Coordinator hires will be key too and then keeping them or replacing them well when they leave. His first call imo should be to Joe Brady and see if he’s interested in coming back to the area where he grew up and see if he can recreate some LSU magic.
 
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Caliknight said:
Miami is da u
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More specifically, they aren’t “da u” anymore, but the fanbase expects them to be. So when you don’t put up “da u” results, you get fired. This is why the program is in this never ending feedback loop of failure or mediocrity.
 
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I hope temple would have some pride
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Miami proved some College programs don't by the way they hired Diaz from Temple and went after Super Mario publicly while amazingly assuring Manny he'd be with them next season, unless
Cristobal came onboard and took the position
 
Now Kelvin Banks (current ducks commit from Humble) is hopefully in play again!! Many schools want that 5* stud!
 
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Plum Street said:
What’s getting lost in this is manny Diaz’s situation. A few years ago he screwed over temple and left after 2 weeks as HC . Now miami dumps him when something better comes along.
What goes around , comes around.
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Mentioned that in the carousel thread…little bit karma for him but he’s still walking away with lots of money.

It would be funny if Temple did go for him again. They got paid 4M by Miami once and they could get him back again on Miami’s dime lol.
 
Caliknight said:
Schiano should hire Diaz. He can help with Florida.

Definitely not sold on Cristobal. With USC down he should have been running through the Pac. The fact that he couldn't, with all of that Nike money, is telling.
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Serious question. You have two choices in 2019, and they are asking for the same money to be Rutgers HC and they both want the job. Cristobal or Schiano?
 
Knight Shift said:
Serious question. You have two choices in 2019, and they are asking for the same money to be Rutgers HC and they both want the job. Cristobal or Schiano?
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Schiano. F Cristobal. He turned us down before. That doesn't play into my calculus though. If I thought he could win I'd want him hired. He's a right time right place guy to me. Timing is everything though. Good for him. Bad for Miami.
 
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Caliknight said:
Schiano. F Cristobal. He turned us down before. That doesn't play into my calculus though. If I thought he could win I'd want him hired. He's a right time right place guy to me. Timing is everything though. Good for him. Bad for Miami.
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IIRC, it was his wife who perhaps turned her nose up at Rutgers and New Jersey?

Don't know how the Eugene, OR area is, but having been to Oregon a few times, would take New Jersey over Oregon every time. Portland is scary, maybe no less than many cities, but things are really out of control in Portland. Have family near Portland, and a distant cousin was murdered there in February- police have zero leads.
 
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Portland is a disaster. Oregon blows. It had it's run like 15 years ago. It's over.

Any beta male that gets overruled by his wife for a career upgrade is not head coach material in the first place. Calling a flame out in Miami.
 
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Will be interesting to see if Cristobal’s recruiting can compete with Florida and the rest of the SEC for local recruits.

I seriously doubt it. Cristobal is not a big HC name and Miami has not been a destination for top players in quite some time. This will be an uphill climb with Miami fans expecting championships and nothing less.
 
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Knight Shift said:
IIRC, it was his wife who perhaps turned her nose up at Rutgers and New Jersey?

Don't know how the Eugene, OR area is, but having been to Oregon a few times, would take New Jersey over Oregon every time. Portland is scary, maybe no less than many cities, but things are really out of control in Portland. Have family near Portland, and a distant cousin was murdered there in February- police have zero leads.
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Portland used to be on a list of cities I most wanted to visit, but now I wouldn't set foot in that city if I were paid. Seattle was another city on the list and I am glad I went there when we played Washington State. Wouldn't go there now either. Eugene is a little over 100 miles from Portland so maybe that is far enough away to prevent being infected with whatever ails Portland. But who knows.
 
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Cross-posted from the Coaching Carousel Thread (reference is to Thamel article on Yahoo):

Miami is the epitome of delusional.

From Diaz Yahoo article:

"Diaz, the son of a former Miami mayor, was given just three seasons with the Hurricanes before the school — which currently does not have an athletic director. . . "

"To get things turned around in 2020, Diaz hired Rhett Lashlee to run the offense and added D’Eriq King to play quarterback. It paid off as the Hurricanes moved into the top 10 amid an 8-1 start before closing the year with two losses.

King got hurt in the 2020 bowl game and then again early in 2021 as the team started 2-4. With King out, the Hurricanes pivoted to Tyler Van Dyke at quarterback. He had some early struggles, but he and the Miami offense put up big numbers as the season progressed."

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Tyler Van Dyke had a very solid freshman year. 2931 yards, 25 TDs, 6 INTs.

And let's look at their losses:

Alabama- can't count that against him.
Michigan State 38-17 (that's almost the same score RU lost by- we are as good as Miami!!!)-not a bad loss
Virginia 30-28
UNC 45-42 - really, no shame in losing by 3 points, but I guess so.
Florida State 31-28. Thou shalt not lose to Florida State in a down year?

Seriously, WTF with Miami fans and boosters? Three losses by 2-3 points each. Second place in the ACC Coastal. Three years into his tenure with his best QB out for the year gets the Mayor's son fired.

Was there something else Diaz did wrong?

Interesting comment by a reader under the story about Cristobal:

"Great recruiter, terrible coach, both in preparation and game management. FSU took "Slick Willie" off Oregon's hands, and Cristobal is just like him. Talks great, recruits great, but absolutely cannot coach, and will not let assistants do their job. Good luck Miami. Just like Florida State, you will rue this decision. In the long run, you have done Oregon a favor. Now they don't have to pay anything to fire him and you get to pay them to buy out his contract. It's a win - lose situation. Oregon wins, you lose."
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It’s not at all unreasonable to think we’d be in the middle to upper pack of the ACC right now.
 
Caliknight said:
Portland is a disaster. Oregon blows. It had it's run like 15 years ago. It's over.

Any beta male that gets overruled by his wife for a career upgrade is not head coach material in the first place. Calling a flame out in Miami.
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He wasn’t over-ruled by his wife. He wanted Greg Schiano money and Rutgers didn’t want to pay that. Our loss. He couldn’t say Rutgers didn’t offer me enough. So they went with the wife said no. Now he’ll be making 4x what he wanted from Rutgers 9 years ago. In any case, had he been hired by Rutgers, he’d have been at Miami by now, anyways. Miami is where he always wanted to be. But the program
Wouldn’t have been driven into the ditch. We’re still trying to climb out.
 
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