BACATOLOGY: NCAA TOURNAMENT ANALYSIS UPDATE FOR 3/6 PAGE 23

[PSAL_Hoops]

they have a ceiling. Some schools do not, if RU won the Big 10 they could be 7 or maybe the last 6

One would figure the ceiling would be 11 seed and one of the last few spots in the field for a 9 loss mid-major that had opportunities but could not secure a win over anyone in the top half of the bracket.

To me - Memphis ought to be comparatively way ahead of them with the 2 Houston wins, the Alabama win and the neutral win at VTech. At least only 3 teams in the AAC are outside the NET top 175.

 

[Big boy stan]

So the highest seeded 10 would go to what the committee believes is the best spot geographically for that team.

I believe that is only true for the #1 seeds. After that teams ranked 5 through 64 are located by doing a S curve through the 4 regions. So team # 5 would go to the same region as the 4th ranked team and team #6 would go to the same region as team #3 and so on

 

[Scarlet Blind]

You can’t just do that dude. We’re not just slightly ahead on wins. It’s not even close. Not all Q1 wins are equal. Their 3 Q1 wins are @Towson, @BYU and @Santa Clara. Their Q2 wins are all garbage too except the one from 2 days ago BYU (neutral) and Davison (home).

As for having less total losses, half their conference has a NET outside the top 175 and they didn’t exactly play murders row OOC. The worst team in our conference has a NET of 148 (and we swept that team).

You are over complicating how teams get in, they seed based on resume pretty standard how teams get in.

2020-21
33 Missouri 7-6, 2-3, 9-9, 6-0, 15-9, 24 out of 25(16-9) SOR 30
34 GA Tech 3-6, 6-0, 9-6, 5-2, 15-8, 23 out of 25(17-8) SOR 34
35 Wisconsin 5-10, 5-2, 10-12, 4-0, 14-12, 26 out of 29(17-12) SOR 24
36 Maryland 4-10, 3-3, 7-13, 6-0, 13-13, 25 out of 28(15-13) SOR 44
37 VA Tech 2-3, 3-3, 5-6, 5-0, 10-6, 16 out of 21(15-6), SOR 46
38 VCU 2-5, 7-0, 9-5, 6-2, 15-7, 22 out of 26(19-7) SOR 37
39 St Bona 4-2, 2-1, 6-3, 6-1, 12-4, 16 out of 20(16-4) SOR 35
40 Rutgers 4-9, 6-2, 10-11, 3-0, 12-11, 23 out of 26(15-11) SOR 27
41 Syracuse 1-7, 6-1, 7-8, 6-1, 13-9, 22 out of 25(16-9) SOR 31
42 Utah St 2-5, 2-1, 4-6, 7-2, 11-8, 19 out of 27(19-8) SOR 72
Play in 43 MSU 5Q1(5-10), 9-12, 11-12,(15-12), SOR 41
44 UCLA 2Q1(2-6), 5-9, 13-9, (17-9), SOR 35
45 Wich St 2Q1(2-2), 4-4, 10-5, 19 gm(14-5), SOR 48
48.Drake 1Q1(1-2), 6-2, 12-4,(23-4) SOR 45

VCU over SBA, 7Q1 vs 6Q1
Utah St got the 11seed, Drake, Wich, 7 Q1gm vs 4Q1s vs 3Q1s
Arizona, not eligible SOR 47, 46 Oregon St 43, 47 G'Town 52

NIT 1.seeds
Colo St 2-4, 1-2, *3-6, 4-0, *7-6, (17-6) SOR 61
Memphis 0-4, 4-3, *4-7, 6-1, *10-8, (16-8) SOR 50
St Louis 2-2, 2-2, *4-4, 4-2, *8-6, (14-6) SOR 71
Ole Miss 3-5, 4-4, *7-9, 4-2, *11-11, (16-11) SOR 73, probably first out.

 

[mjjoyce51]

I believe that is only true for the #1 seeds. After that teams ranked 5 through 64 are located by doing a S curve through the 4 regions. So team # 5 would go to the same region as the 4th ranked team and team #6 would go to the same region as team #3 and so on

Yeah that probably makes more sense...

 

[fatsam98]

Each first/second round venues hosts 4 1st round games and the resulting 2 2nd round games.

For first/second rounds they put the #1 seeds in the venue closest to them. So Gonzaga will be in Portland, Arizona would go to San Diego etc.

Then they'll put the 2 seeds into their closest venue, assuming that site isn't already "full". So Wisconsin as a 2 seed would be in Milwaukee. Same for 3 seeds and 4 seeds, at which point accommodating everyone becomes impossible.

I'm sure they try and accommodate the higher seeds as much as possible but if every 8/9 team is an east coast team then sorry you're SOL and one pair has to go to Portland to match up with Gonzaga and another has to go to San Diego to match up against Arizona as an example

 

[StevieB160]

Full scrub this morning with full update and new thread coming later today. This one has over 27K views..wow!

That would be impressive if 25k of the views weren't you.

 

[PSAL_Hoops]

You are over complicating how teams get in, they seed based on resume pretty standard how teams get in.

2020-21
33 Missouri 7-6, 2-3, 9-9, 6-0, 15-9, 24 out of 25(16-9) SOR 30
34 GA Tech 3-6, 6-0, 9-6, 5-2, 15-8, 23 out of 25(17-8) SOR 34
35 Wisconsin 5-10, 5-2, 10-12, 4-0, 14-12, 26 out of 29(17-12) SOR 24
36 Maryland 4-10, 3-3, 7-13, 6-0, 13-13, 25 out of 28(15-13) SOR 44
37 VA Tech 2-3, 3-3, 5-6, 5-0, 10-6, 16 out of 21(15-6), SOR 46
38 VCU 2-5, 7-0, 9-5, 6-2, 15-7, 22 out of 26(19-7) SOR 37
39 St Bona 4-2, 2-1, 6-3, 6-1, 12-4, 16 out of 20(16-4) SOR 35
40 Rutgers 4-9, 6-2, 10-11, 3-0, 12-11, 23 out of 26(15-11) SOR 27
41 Syracuse 1-7, 6-1, 7-8, 6-1, 13-9, 22 out of 25(16-9) SOR 31
42 Utah St 2-5, 2-1, 4-6, 7-2, 11-8, 19 out of 27(19-8) SOR 72
Play in 43 MSU 5Q1(5-10), 9-12, 11-12,(15-12), SOR 41
44 UCLA 2Q1(2-6), 5-9, 13-9, (17-9), SOR 35
45 Wich St 2Q1(2-2), 4-4, 10-5, 19 gm(14-5), SOR 48
48.Drake 1Q1(1-2), 6-2, 12-4,(23-4) SOR 45

Utah St got the 11seed, Drake, Wich, 7 Q1gm vs 4Q1s vs 3Q1s
Arizona, not eligible SOR 47, Oregon St 43, G'Town 52

NIT 1.seeds
Colo St 2-4, 1-2, *3-6, 4-0, *7-6, (17-6) SOR 61
Memphis 0-4, 4-3, *4-7, 6-1, *10-8, (16-8) SOR 50
St Louis 2-2, 2-2, *4-4, 4-2, *8-6, (14-6) SOR 71
Ole Miss 3-5, 4-4, *7-9, 4-2, *11-11, (16-11) SOR 73, probably first out.

And how do you know that these stats your pointing to didn’t align with what I’m saying is ultimately the most important seeding metric of all. Wins against the field.

Show me some past examples of mid-majors who had 9 or more losses, 1-6 against the field (with that one win being at home against an 11 seed AQ or possibly worse depending what happens with Davidson). I guarantee you won’t find many examples sitting on the 9 seed line or better.

 

[Loyal_2RU]

That would be impressive if 25k of the views weren't you.

No need to be an A$$

 

[patk89]

If the season ended today, RU is deserving. How can a hot Nebraska beating a hot Iowa and then beating RU in Indy take away from that? Again, with the thought that what you do during the last 10 games matters far more than what you did in November. Who ever RU faces on Friday will be battle tested. They cannot possibly prevent RU from getting a bid. Whether it be Iowa or some other team. RU has never played on a Saturday since joining the B1G. Beat one team, they will have overcome this. Huge achievement.

 

[bac2therac]

New thread started

 

[Scarlet Blind]

And how do you know that these stats your pointing to didn’t align with what I’m saying is ultimately the most important seeding metric of all. Wins against the field.

Show me some past examples of mid-majors who had 9 or more losses, 1-6 against the field (with that one win being at home against an 11 seed AQ or possibly worse depending what happens with Davidson). I guarantee you won’t find many examples sitting on the 9 seed line or better.

WCC is on par with American, MWC, A10 to finish out the top 10. High mid major conference.

There is 3 levels of grading resumes,
P6- B12, B1G, SEC, Big East, P12, ACC,
High mid major- American, MWC, WCC, A10
Mid major- low major- 11-32, Murray St 27-2, 3 non D1 wins(OVC, 21st) SOR 18 2-1, 3-0, 5-1, 10-2, and Loyola Ill 24-7(MVC, 11th) SOR 45, 2-2, 6-4, 7-1, 15-7, would have had a legit shot even if they didn't win their conference bid. Rutgers Q1/2/3 13-11, SOR 50.

I've been tracking brackets through the horrible RPI years for a couple of decades, including when they released the RPI in the newspapers before internet.

 

[G- RUnit]

I could be wrong but I believe it's based on where each team stands within their seeding. So the highest seeded 10 would go to what the committee believes is the best spot geographically for that team. Lowest seeded 10 just goes to the last spot that's left.

I was looking at DeCourcey’s today. LSU can’t be happy as better seed playing RU in Pittsburgh! ;-)

 

[Plum Street]

Potential path to the big ten championship game is northwestern and Indiana

 

[RUtrumpet92]

Rooting for Duke and Michigan in the same afternoon makes me feel like I need a shower.

 

[RUPete]

Potential path to the big ten championship game is northwestern and Indiana

Half-full Plum is good.

 

[RUtrumpet92]

Wow, Kowacie Reeves on Florida has a unique hairstyle that would be interesting fodder for a look-alike contest. He just completed a four point play with 36.6 to go to get Florida within 1.

 

[Scangg]

Guys it's time to retire this thread and use the current one