My apologies to our players and their parents
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I did the same thing in 130- shouted out, "just so you know there's a man down so maybe you should shut up." it actually worked pretty quickly.
Joe P.
I have every right to be here. I have given something far more valuable to this program than you will ever spend on tickets. I am a big girl and I can take criticism of my son. Go search his name and see how many times I have commented on the critical posts about his play. I haven't. What I will comment on is a classless reply to a very heartfelt and much appreciated gesture by the OP about a game where there wasn't much to celebrate.
dnmuller - please know that this one poster does not speak for the majority of us, he only represents himself with his opinions.
Kudos to the OP for such a wonderful post and being such a great fan.
Kudos to the OP for such a wonderful post and being such a great fan.
dnmuler, I for one, and probably most of the posters on this site, respect and appreciate your sons dedication and efforts for this team and for Rutgers.
Please don't let an idiot or two on a message board define the fanbase. Thank you to Chris for choosing Rutgers and sticking with Rutgers during a tough couple of years. A very large majority of fans appreciate his and his family's contribution to Rutgers football.
Haha. In what lifetime will that be. No offense but your team has almost no talent. I would worry about that more than someone coming into the student section. The stadium was empty early in the second half.
I stayed almost till the bitter end; at one point, it felt like it was just me and a bunch of Pedophile Supporters.
At least you got old lame jokes to fall back on. Enjoy that beat down and no hope in sight
Yes every fan base has fans that disgrace the program they are supposedly supporting
I understand one year some Nit fans were throwing balloons full of of urine among other stuff at the OSU band members in Beaver Stadium.
But that doesn't excuse someone throwing a baseball at Penn St players during the Rutgers game or anytime a scumbag throws anything at a player.
The difference is ours are 18-22 year olds acting classless. I had to deal with PSU fans old enough to be my parents being classless.
See thats the problem with many of you
Its not a joke. thousands of you are pedophile supporters based on your cultish behavior
Again, NOT A JOKE...this isnt some fake reality we are making up.
Of course you have the right to be here, never said you didn't, try actually reading my initial post, I said I think it is a bad idea for parents to read and engage in sports boards. The statement that you have "given something" when referring to your son playing football for Rutgers in exchange for a free education and other benefits is misplaced at best, Gold Star parents have given something valuable, in fact, any parent who has a child serving overseas is giving something valuable. Your son is a young man playing a sport and being given great advantage for doing so over the average student at the university. Fans are paying money to see him play and contributing to the university. An older couple has a right to leave the stadium early in a rain storm and not fee guilty about it, period. And the players, coaches, and administration have produced a crappy product this year, there is no arguing over that fact.
Total bs here. You start this by knocking players who stunk it up and you pay good money to see them. After being called out for it, you are going to throw a comparison between military and football. That was designed to block any further argument and you know it. Not a single parent of a player is going to compare it to a kid in the military. SMH...you missed the point that the Mullers and parents and family and the player himself, have paid much more into the program then you have.
And sorry, I disagree about family on message boards. If you notice, they only tend to get pissed when someone crosses the line. Mrs Muller has never jumped in to complain if some is discussing a play or some game play that involves her son if it stays a football discussion.
Again, my original post which got this alleged parent upset was that an older couple does not owe any player an apology for leaving the stands early in a rain storm. This alleged parent got offended because I stated that the older couple had paid their money and the coaches, players, and most importantly, the administration, owed them an apology for putting such a crappy product on the field. As for a parent "giving something valuable" to the university more than a fan who is giving their hard earned money I have issues with that as it relates to sports. It is a misplaced argument, because both the student and parents are benefitting financially by this young man's participation in a sport. The student is getting a free education, tons of benefits not available to the average student, and is treated with admiration by many in the community. The parents in many cases are also receiving a financial benefit by not having to pay for their child's education, which can run well over a 100k at Rutgers. The constant need of some to compare the alleged sacrifices of those playing a sport to real world sacfrices is rampant in this society. And finally, I never said the parent didn't have a right to post on this board, but only that I thought it was a bad idea.
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fking hell.. stop blaming the player(s) and their talents... they weren't recruited to play in this pitiful crap... this is ALL ON THE COACHING STAFF
to the players and parents reading this: keep your heads up and stay classy... you are better than most of these posters that want to demean the players rather than see where the real problem is... coaching... and their(coaches) ability to utilize your kids abilities to the max
@dnmuller tagged you so you can see there are those of us that support R players
to the players and parents reading this: keep your heads up and stay classy... you are better than most of these posters that want to demean the players rather than see where the real problem is... coaching... and their(coaches) ability to utilize your kids abilities to the max
@dnmuller tagged you so you can see there are those of us that support R players
You're talking about the Bonagura family , staying to the end to support their son/brother and team.
Posted on my of the many RU fan facebook groups: (doesn't look like they are wearing shorts , btw)
"My daughter Michele and my sons girlfriend Lexi. They were the last Rutgers fans in the stands behind the team in the 4th quarter. Loyal to the end. Love these girls."
Let me correct you. A complete douche is a certain fan base that refuses to accept Joe Pa knew and failed to take action to prevent innocent children being molested and instead wishes to restore a statue of Jerry's unindicted co-conspirator. That sums up douches quite nicely.
Mrs. Muller is a major reason why people should think before they type. At the end of the day this is a business but it is played by 18-22 year old kids. These kids work their tails off and in 99% of the cases represent Rutgers University with class and integrity.
Your pissed we lost? Well welcome to the club. If you want to criticize the coaching that is fine. They are grown men who make hundreds of thousands of dollars. You want to criticize the play-calling and the schemes, that is fine too.
But singling out any of the kids is just plain classless and lacks any understanding that both the parents of current and future players read these boards.
Your pissed we lost? Well welcome to the club. If you want to criticize the coaching that is fine. They are grown men who make hundreds of thousands of dollars. You want to criticize the play-calling and the schemes, that is fine too.
But singling out any of the kids is just plain classless and lacks any understanding that both the parents of current and future players read these boards.
RUforlife, you are missing the point. This thread was not the time or place to vent your feelings about the lack of success that the team has had this year. Go start a new thread to vent. The OP expressed a very kind sentiment and it is not up to you to tell them that their feelings have no merit. And furthermore, those players are not gladiators out there for your enjoyment. There are football families from every income group including some really wealthy people who don't need scholarship money. Our sons are playing because they love the game so much. Their "alleged sacrifices" include concussions, brain damage and joint damage as they age. And what exactly is an "alleged parent" anyway?????
Chris Muller has represented Rutgers University with class, dignity, and hard work. Please do not listen to such foolishness. My money has been well spent no matter what the win loss record has been this year.
The PSU fans were the ones spewing garbage on Saturday. And 2 years ago was overblown.
My son graduated from PSU this past May. He was at both games. In 2014 & 2016 he encountered no problems in or out of the stadium with Rutgers fans. On Saturday night he had to turnaround and tell some obnoxious PSU fans to shut up. This was in the 2nd half after the rain started hard and there were a lot of fans leaving - several applauded him as they walked by in the aisle between 126 and 127.
Maybe your problems in 2014 were caused by some of your own obnoxious behavior.
team and coaches should have played harder, should have focused more, dug deeper; not like PSU was unbeatable
this is on the team and the coaches so no sympathy whatsoever
I too had no problems with them and we had lots of PSU fans all around us during the tailgate and the game. In fact, I was almost late into the game because I was enjoying the company of some younger PSU fans in the yellow lot who didn't have tickets.
Believe me when I say that the majority of sane fans of our program fully support your son, and respect the immense effort he's put forth over the years, along with all the other players. Fair and even-tempered criticism goes with the territory which you obviously completely understand.
Unfortunately, there's always that segment of society that is so self-absorbed and/or miserable that exists in every fan-base and seems unable to resist adolescent venting when disappointed at outcomes. It's frustrating at times, but we have no choice but to live with them (or become an overly moderated forum like the PSU board which would kind of stink).
[Edit] Forgot to say that you are 100% correct. Parents, players and recruits have every right to participate in this forum and are always more than welcome here. Far more welcome than the jerks that spout non-stop negativity.
I had a blast with 98% of the PSU fans in the lots. I made sure to tell everyone who complimented Rutgers to go back to the penn state board & tell everyone how I knifed them & spit on their children. It got a good laugh.
It was similar to Michigan, the traveling fans were great, the problems came from the mid 30s-mid 40s guys with North Jersey/Staten Island accents who think college football is the same as going to a Jets game.
Dear dnmuller,
Please do not let the response of one ignorant message board fan get you down. True fans understand the time and efforts that your son and the rest of the players put in year round to play this game.
At the end of the day your son plays a game and we buy tickets to root him and the team on and support our school.
Tell your son to keep his head up, their are way more fans that support the team then the idiot that wrote the post you are responding to .
You don't know anything about me and you couldn't be more wrong. I don't owe you an explanation but I have spent a lot of time and a lot of money supporting the team.
Thanks to those who have offered kind words. I'm done here.
Thanks to those who have offered kind words. I'm done here.
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This. We had a great time in the lot, much better than 2 years ago, actually, and it wasn't until we got into the stadium and this sub-cult's assholishness came out in a big way. One guy was jumping up in the concourse, by the north gate, trying to tear down one of the directional/emergency signs that hands from the roof. Luckily he was so drunk the cops nailed him rather quickly. We were actually playing beer-pong with a group of Nits next to our tailgate and no issues whatsoever there, in the purple lot in general, or walking towards the stadium.
I was at the game and my experience there couldn't have been more different from the experiences described here, or the way folks communicate here.
I was under the overhang near the 50, so maybe tempers aren't as short and obnoxiousness is reined in when people are dry.
Rutgers fans were genial and rooting for their team. Penn State fans were doing the same. One kid (I'm old so this describes everyone under 35) screamed "F--- Penn State!" as he was departing, soaked, and the older people around me (most Rutgers fans) seemed embarrassed for him. We're from a generation that didn't generally yell that word in public, even if it is part of our vocabulary.
The stadium was a great place to see football. The shuttles did MVP work after. There was a lot of life around the stadium with all the far-flung lots. I was at the PSU-Duke hoops game in Connecticut earlier so I arrived too late to see that atmosphere. But it looked fun.
I'd go back to HPS stadium in an instant.
Your DBs and DLs were B!G ready. Lot of holes everywhere else, so it looks discouraging for you. That will change. Too much talent in NJ and the B!G connection will pay off.
There's a learning curve for head coaches and it may be good for his development that there are obvious personnel needs that should provide cover. I'm sure he can coach, and it is fairly easy to staff a power 5 conference team with talented assistants.
If you had just a few more players on the offensive side, things wouldn't be so bleak. Not a lot coaching can do without it. You're competing against good coaches with a few more good players. It's always the players.
I was under the overhang near the 50, so maybe tempers aren't as short and obnoxiousness is reined in when people are dry.
Rutgers fans were genial and rooting for their team. Penn State fans were doing the same. One kid (I'm old so this describes everyone under 35) screamed "F--- Penn State!" as he was departing, soaked, and the older people around me (most Rutgers fans) seemed embarrassed for him. We're from a generation that didn't generally yell that word in public, even if it is part of our vocabulary.
The stadium was a great place to see football. The shuttles did MVP work after. There was a lot of life around the stadium with all the far-flung lots. I was at the PSU-Duke hoops game in Connecticut earlier so I arrived too late to see that atmosphere. But it looked fun.
I'd go back to HPS stadium in an instant.
Your DBs and DLs were B!G ready. Lot of holes everywhere else, so it looks discouraging for you. That will change. Too much talent in NJ and the B!G connection will pay off.
There's a learning curve for head coaches and it may be good for his development that there are obvious personnel needs that should provide cover. I'm sure he can coach, and it is fairly easy to staff a power 5 conference team with talented assistants.
If you had just a few more players on the offensive side, things wouldn't be so bleak. Not a lot coaching can do without it. You're competing against good coaches with a few more good players. It's always the players.
I got confused on page 2 of this thread, until I hit "show ignored content," there are several Rutgers "fans" who really need to be shown the door. If all you can muster are negative comments tearing down the program day after day, you don't need to be here.
While we are on the subject, why are these Penn State people allowed to come on here and take cheap shots, and it stays up? I know we don't want this to be run like BWI, but their conduct here would get you kicked off of most other teams boards. If a visiting fan is not adding anything with their posts, and is only taking cheap shots, they need to be shown the door.
While we are on the subject, why are these Penn State people allowed to come on here and take cheap shots, and it stays up? I know we don't want this to be run like BWI, but their conduct here would get you kicked off of most other teams boards. If a visiting fan is not adding anything with their posts, and is only taking cheap shots, they need to be shown the door.
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