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Myles observation - curious to hear other thoughts

Yeah but the picks are set way to high and I don’t think we have executed one pick and roll all year. Also when you use Mulcahy on the pick and roll he is absolutely no threat to shoot so there is no reason for their big man to even hedge

you can just go under any Mulcahy screen right now
 
Cockburn is one of the most intimidating big men in the country, even though he is a freshman. Myles needed to get him in foul trouble but that didn't happen. Thought Myles gained confidence after a weak 1st half against PSU but it didn't carryover. To achieve the team goals, he has to be a big factor for us on the boards, both defensive and offensive. We lost because we got killed on the boards by Illinois. Especially the number of offensive rebounds they got. Out toughed us. This happens on the road in the B1G.
 
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Myles is a sophomore. He had a bad game. He'll be fine.
We could just as easily pile on Harper, Caleb, Paul, or Tez. Short of JY, they all had their shortcomings. Credit to Illinois, no need to panic, and we move on. I'm confident the coaches and players dissected the film and will learn from their mistakes.
 
Johnson had a mental lapse that cost him 10+ minutes of playing time and may have cost us a road win. That's entirely worthy of criticism - he needs to work on situational awareness and understanding how important he is to the team.

His mistake was so impactful BECAUSE he's one of the best players on the team. Any mistake that takes one of the best players off the court for extended minutes is magnified. It wouldn't have mattered if Doucoure committed the same fouls Johnson did and had to sit out for long stretches of the game.
 
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Johnson had a mental lapse that cost him 10+ minutes of playing time and may have cost us a road win. That's entirely worthy of criticism - he needs to work on situational awareness and understanding how important he is to the team.

His mistake was so impactful BECAUSE he's one of the best players on the team. Any mistake that takes one of the best players off the court for extended minutes is magnified. It wouldn't have mattered if Doucoure committed the same fouls Johnson did and had to sit out for long stretches of the game.

The high weave and high screen are part of RU's half court set in every game. Johnson pretty much lays the same screen with the same technique in every game. It generally gets called as a foul or not based on how the defense brings more pressure and quickens their pace or also the differences in how the referees are calling from game to game. Every player makes mistakes - but Johnson is one of the smartest players on the floor for RU in terms of his positioning in offensive sets and for both offensive and defensive rebounds - to say he needs to booster his situational awareness is silly......this is a technique foul by both Johnson and the guard (with the ball) coming through the screen.
 
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I've never understood having an offense where your 1 big guy comes way out to screen and 1) pulls himself out of rebounding position and 2) get exposed to cheap ass fouls not anywhere near the basket..equals foul plus turnover..the worst.

I'm disappointed that we didn't play this game like we played the 2nd half vs. PSU.
Didn't learn from that game.
It's a pick and roll offense. If you run it right it can't be stopped. The big will roll to the basket and get a lob or go for a rebound.
 
Was the reach-in 35 feet from the basket a technique foul? He was clearly steaming because, on the previous 2 plays, he (1) was completely boxed out by Cockburn, allowing an Illinois offensive rebound and three-pointed and then (2) had his offensive move stuffed cold by Cockburn, who bounced him an extra 3-4 feet from the hoop, resulting in MJ lofting an air ball. Second later, the reach-in. MJ couldn't do much with him during his short stint in the first half, resulting in his reaching over Cockburn (something that worked against teams like Nebraska and Joe's Deli State) and getting his second foul.

So, yes, he's a smart kid. But the competition step-up represented by Cockburn had him steaming at times, off his game and then out of the game. The step-up in opposing teams' post players matters. MJ has to adjust both mentally and physically. I'm sure he will. He did well enough against PSU. But its absolutely worth noting, because it did happen Saturday.
 
The high weave and high screen are part of RU's half court set in every game. Johnson pretty much lays the same screen with the same technique in every game. It generally gets called as a foul or not based on how the defense brings more pressure and quickens their pace or also the differences in how the referees are calling from game to game. Every player makes mistakes - but Johnson is one of the smartest players on the floor for RU in terms of his positioning in offensive sets and for both offensive and defensive rebounds - to say he needs to booster his situational awareness is silly......this is a technique foul by both Johnson and the guard (with the ball) coming through the screen.

Was talking about the poke at the ball against a guard 30 feet from the basket - that has nothing to do with screens or technique, and everything to do with making a better decision in the moment. What was the upside of poking the ball away there vs. the downside - is that really a play we needed in that moment, that was worth risking a foul and getting sent to the bench for another 10 minutes?
 
Amazing. On this board he goes from the team's best player.....to weak / intimidated / fatigued all in one game.
The reason everyone is harping on it is because he is our best player. If he has a bad game we aren't going to win many games. Doucoure and Carter are more like power forwards than centers.
 
The game by game play or inconsistent play by most players on every team in this league is amazing.
I've watched enough games so far this as to not be too upset by it right now.
2 weeks ago folks wanted to run off Young. Look at his last 3 games.
Problem with yesterday is we had almost everybody take the game off and needed just one of the front court guys to have a big game. Of well.
Agree to an extent but don’t think anyone took the game off so to speak. Both teams played great defense. Complete reversal of when we played them last year. This was a slug fest on the road and we came up short against a good team. When you use a lot of energy on defense the offense is not as good. This went both ways.
 
Agree to an extent but don’t think anyone took the game off so to speak. Both teams played great defense. Complete reversal of when we played them last year. This was a slug fest on the road and we came up short against a good team. When you use a lot of energy on defense the offense is not as good. This went both ways.
Yeah, I didn't mean didn't try. Meant had an off night on the offensive side or too many fouls, missed rebounds.
 
You don't need a coach to tell a college player setting a screen to stand still. That's entirely on the player.
Two things here because I did not watch but listened to the last 10 minutes:

1. announcers said JY left too soon on the 4th foul though he carried us in the 2nd half that’s on him

2. we get away with more at home than we do on the road:
 
Yeah, I didn't mean didn't try. Meant had an off night on the offensive side or too many fouls, missed rebounds.
Yeah I knew what you meant but just pointing out the fatigue factor when playing tough D and playing against tough D. Again, last year was an offensive show by both teams.
 
Our pick and roll game, due to both the effectiveness of our screeners and the fact that for the first time in a long while we have several capable ball handlers, has been the best and most improved part of our offense. We have gone from the 200s in offensive efficiency to top 100. And that improvement certainly isn't because we are deadly from 3. Almost everything we get is going to the basket off motion or screens.

The cheap reach was bad foul. That's it for me. The others are calls that go against you on the road and don't go against you at home (for the most part). Reason #63 as to why its tough to win on the road in this league. Myles set the same screen(s) half a dozen to a dozen times v PSU and didn't get whistled once.
 
Was the reach-in 35 feet from the basket a technique foul? He was clearly steaming because, on the previous 2 plays, he (1) was completely boxed out by Cockburn, allowing an Illinois offensive rebound and three-pointed and then (2) had his offensive move stuffed cold by Cockburn, who bounced him an extra 3-4 feet from the hoop, resulting in MJ lofting an air ball. Second later, the reach-in. MJ couldn't do much with him during his short stint in the first half, resulting in his reaching over Cockburn (something that worked against teams like Nebraska and Joe's Deli State) and getting his second foul.

So, yes, he's a smart kid. But the competition step-up represented by Cockburn had him steaming at times, off his game and then out of the game. The step-up in opposing teams' post players matters. MJ has to adjust both mentally and physically. I'm sure he will. He did well enough against PSU. But its absolutely worth noting, because it did happen Saturday.

He made one bad reach in foul. All players do, including NBA superstars. This thread was started calling him skittish and ensuing posts stated he essentially needs to improve his basketball IQ. My response was to that line of thinking. Further, regarding emotional reaction leading to mistakes...... my response is......to point to one mistake and expect emotion not to come into play from a team that is essentially driven by effort and emotion is silly.
 
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