No. We don't need a face of the program. We need a real college coach
Name a few realistic candidates if EJ doesn't survive
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First he has to want to coach. You don't wake up one day and take over a power 5 job. Even Hubert Davis started as an assistant to Roy Williams at UNC after stint at espn.
Fwliw, Several years ago, I think Skinner would have been a better hire than Mike Rice, imho
I don't think Kruger was fired at Florida. Illinois hired him away from Florida if I remember correctly.
true...it is a reach. Open to better. But we need some creativity and someone who will have a positive media impact.
I said in another reply it is a reach. Open to better, someone who can recruit 2 top players maybe by relating to them. Regardless we need a drastic positive change...
Eddie Jordan did those things. Problem is that he is a horrible college coach in every way possible.
You're right, Kruger left Florida on his own.
He took over the Gator program after it had been put on probation and did pretty well considering having to work with penalties the NCAA handed down to Florida because of recruiting violations by the previous HC .
But I think he seen the writing on the wall after he went 12-16 and jumped at the chance to go to Illinois .
Archie Miller is waiting for top 10/15 program. He makes about $2.5M a year at Dayton and will wait like his brother Sean for a top 10/15 program. He already has spurned Alabama, Marquette, etc. Also FL called and he told them he was not interested.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...dayton-archie-miller-next-coach-make-big-jump
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...dayton-archie-miller-next-coach-make-big-jump
we have to factor in if there are many Power 5 openings this year....in the Big 10, I would think Chambers, Groce, and Little Ricky are in danger but all may scrape by. Havent checked the hot seat in other conferences yet
Don't know why ASU fired him but Sendek was fired from NC State because he couldn't get past the sweet sixteen and his record vs Duke and UNC wasn't what NC State people expected.
So after five straight trips to the NCAA tournament they fired him and hired an alum who had never been a college head coach. And during his five seasons they never went to the NCAA tournament. Three seasons he did not even get them into the NIT.
He is a good coach, particularly if you need to rebuild/turnaround a program. But his ceiling is probably sweet sixteen.
I'm sorry, but we have much higher standards than that here at Rutgers :joy:
I'm not sure if you were able to catch my sarcasm, so I'm going to double check with you.
A program without one NCAA bid in over two decades should build a monument for the first head coach that breaks this cycle.I'm afraid, however,that the more likely scenario is this issue will be revisited after 30 years of futility and there might another two new head coaches during the time period.
If Hobbs sticks to his game plan, look for a young, energetic assistant, who has trained under a top level coach. Pitino has a guy, Kenny Johnson, who came over from Indiana, with a rep as an ace recruiter. Smart guy, majored in cell biology and genetics at Maryland. Arguably not ready yet, and no Jersey ties. But you never know. Who had heard of Chris Ash?
I watched Sendek a lot while he was coaching North Carolina State. He is a better than average in-game coach, but when you get to the sweet sixteen you typically run into some of the best coaches (Izzo, K, Williams, Self, Miller, Pitino etc) and Sendek is not going to out coach them -- even on his best day. That's why, imo, his ceiling is sweet sixteen.
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IMO the nature of the game has changed dramatically over the past 5 years.
Rivals , AAU , Twitter have all accelerated to the point where they're components of the recruiting process.
Reducing the shot clock and enforcing the hand check now put more of a Premium on just getting talented players. The day of the physical kid with limited mobility who can't create his shot getting in your rotation is about over in a league like the Big Ten.
Sendek is a good coach no doubt but can he recruit ? Where's the track record of him getting guys within 100 miles of New Brunswick to go play for him ?
IMO that's the most important item------can he recruit ? Rutgers is so short on guys vs who they're playing that to me the thing I'm looking for is a guy who can get talented players to come there. It's 3 hours away from some of the better HS basketball in the country and you need a guy who's going to wade into that and sell a great league and early playing time.
Because let's face it that's what you have to sell.
Williard was trashed consistently for hiring Tiny Morton but there they are and in Year 2 they're a contender for the NCAA's. Who amongst us wouldn't trade places with them ?
If EJ is replaced-----and I don't think he will be-----the priority needs to be a guy who's a proven recruiter. The other stuff you can figure out.
You can't win without talent period.
Rivals , AAU , Twitter have all accelerated to the point where they're components of the recruiting process.
Reducing the shot clock and enforcing the hand check now put more of a Premium on just getting talented players. The day of the physical kid with limited mobility who can't create his shot getting in your rotation is about over in a league like the Big Ten.
Sendek is a good coach no doubt but can he recruit ? Where's the track record of him getting guys within 100 miles of New Brunswick to go play for him ?
IMO that's the most important item------can he recruit ? Rutgers is so short on guys vs who they're playing that to me the thing I'm looking for is a guy who can get talented players to come there. It's 3 hours away from some of the better HS basketball in the country and you need a guy who's going to wade into that and sell a great league and early playing time.
Because let's face it that's what you have to sell.
Williard was trashed consistently for hiring Tiny Morton but there they are and in Year 2 they're a contender for the NCAA's. Who amongst us wouldn't trade places with them ?
If EJ is replaced-----and I don't think he will be-----the priority needs to be a guy who's a proven recruiter. The other stuff you can figure out.
You can't win without talent period.
Well unless any of those guys are available... I'll take that ceiling and worry about it when we get there.
Anybody that wants EJ back regardless of the last 9 games - well, I wish you were my boss
I haven't read all 6 pages of this thread, but would Mick Cronin be someone who would consider coming here?
Would you guys want him? Thoughts?
Its a move up in conference, he doesn't appear to be making insane $$ at Cincy. Obviously, all is contingent on a plan and administration support to get anyone. Assuming we do that...is this an attractive job for Cronin?
Would you guys want him? Thoughts?
Its a move up in conference, he doesn't appear to be making insane $$ at Cincy. Obviously, all is contingent on a plan and administration support to get anyone. Assuming we do that...is this an attractive job for Cronin?
Van Gundy.Either one..Amaker. I believe we let EJ put his whole contingent on the floor next year including the guys who are injured and those coming in , including Johnson, and see what he can do. I think we can compete..
Mick Cronin eats, bleeds and sleeps Cincy. He's an alum, grew up in the City and his family still lives there. He's turn down boatloads of $$$ to stay in the past.
Proven to do what?
Winning at a mid major is totally different than winning at RU.
Winning at a NC State has little relevance to winning here.
Winning at RU takes a special person. a lot of different skill sets needed to win here. If the candidate misses 1 they fail.
1. X and O
2. talent evaluator
3. marketing--selling the program..someone who can formulate and implement a vision
4. unbelievable passion and energy
5. delegator and leader
