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As a PSU season ticket holder, the lack of marquee nonconference opponents has been frustrating (though the Ireland trip was fantastic), but there's a reason for that. PSU was in no position to be scheduling the likes of Alabama, USC, Texas, etc. in the wake of the NCAA sanctions. The program needed two things to keep its head above water these past few seasons: to play on TV, as Bill O'Brien noted many times, and to win games. Navy, Temple (last year not withstanding), Eastern Michigan, Kent State, Akron, UMass, etc. provided that.
Fortunately, the schedule becomes more attractive over the next few years, with games scheduled against Pitt, and further into the future against Virginia Tech and West Virginia. I think PSU is in a tough situation as far as nonconference scheduling going forward. The nine-game B1G schedule, as well as the fact that PSU wants (needs) seven home games per season, means you'll likely get one decent OOC game and two lesser opponents. There will be pressure to make the Pitt series an annual game, but I - and many other PSU fans - wouldn't be in favor of that because you'd essentially be taking away any possibility of regional games such as Virginia Tech or potentially national opponents such as LSU.
Not true. There are a handful of decent PSU posters but let's be honest, OP's initial post wasn't about talking football. It was silly for PSU people to even engage as you aren't going to convince anyone here that St Joe is innocent. If you guys ignored it the thread dies in one day. Sadly, you can't help but rush to St Joe's aid you help to keep the thread on page 1. Before you make some stupid RU comparison...no, our entire board wouldn't rush to your site to defen either Ray or Mike Rice.
BS. You could have at least scheduled lower rung P5 school....maybe even just 1. Also you may want but don't NEED 7 home games. You have tons of revenue and if you were truly unrivaled you'd actually want to prove it. At least play a powerhouse at a neutral site location. That would secure revenue and prove you were striving to be a big player. Franklin, will always schedule down. He did it at Vandy and did it at PSU. It's the only way he will get his 7 or 8 wins.
This is who we should be looking at.
As long as the Hat Guy is there they have shown they will go north for a game.
Well, Virginia would count as a low-level P5 school. Regardless, could they have played Kansas instead of Eastern Michigan? Sure. But I'm not sure what difference that makes other than preventing people from complaining about the lack of P5 opponents. A game against Kansas doesn't satisfy the season ticket holder who wants to see quality opponents.
To your second point, if you break down the financials, PSU may not "need" seven home games. However, when you're operating a self-sufficient athletics department with 29 varsity programs, and the vast, vast majority of your revenue comes via football, and you're dealing with NCAA fine money, and you're actively investigating ways to improve facilities across the board, a seventh home game is invaluable. We can banter about want vs. need, but surely you'd agree an extra 100,000+ tickets sold and the ancillary cash a home game brings in through parking, concessions, etc. is very important.
Finally, regarding James Franklin's scheduling: The only nonconference games scheduled since Penn State hired Franklin have been to help complete the schedule in years that already include games against Pitt. My hope is, with the roster getting back to full strength, we'll see more "name" opponents return to the schedule in 2020 (Virginia Tech already scheduled) and beyond. I'm aware of his history at Vanderbilt, but I'll form my own judgment on his scheduling efforts at PSU. Comparing the two is apples to oranges.
DJ, the OP started a thread about PSU and a statue. Looking back it's our own fault for buying into it in the first place. We gave them the opportunity and they jumped on it. Shame on us. Time to say bye bye
ONE abused kid is still a PSU fan, and the other 10-12 kids (at least the ones we know about) who are scarred for life have nothing but hatred for PSU now.
Yup, that one kid out of 12 definitely proves you are right.
Hey reppin jerz, I'm your biggest fan. I'm going to start following you because I enjoy your stories and lectures on what is right and wrong about rutgers football, and what it will take for RU to entice you to crack open your bank vault and splurge on a season ticket
Actually several of the victims are PSU grads and that is public information. U just don't want to talk facts, just want to bash PSU about Sandusky bc lord knows you have ZERO room to talk when it comes to football or really an other sport for that matter...
Fun Fact did you know of the 15 different team sports (both men and woman) that have either been completed or are currently in season that RU has a better record than PSU in 2 of the 15? Legit Men's Soccer and Woman's basketball are the only sports RU even has a better record than PSU. Do you have any idea how pathetic that is? 7 of those 15 sports RU finished DEAD LAST in the Big 10... It's absolutely awful.
I'm absolutely flattered that you all think so much of PSU to have such a strong feeling towards us, even if it is hate. Maybe in 10 years when RU is still a perenial punching bag you all will still be yelling about Sandusky 15 years after the fact to somehow make up for the awfulness it must be to be an RU fan. I couldn't imagine what it's like to cheer for a program where there is literally no hope, worst record in the big ten, worst donor support, worst facilities, ZERO tradition... hard life as an RU fan
i had you pegged as some naive right out of college kid living in his parents house, now that I see you are 7 years my senior I'm even more perturbed by some of the things
That you say...you clearly don't have a professional job...or you, then again not sure what Econ majors would naturally fit into, either way try acting your age...you sound like an idiot
Who said I buy season tickets to them? I wasn't making the comparison between schedules, you were, I went to a game in Columbus last year too, doesn't mean I have season tix to Ohio state as well...
Not only are some PSU grads but I personally know one (through a friend) who is a state college resident after graduating from PSU...what you have hear is an ignorance to have ALL a the facts and just the details that fit the narrative certain people want...I have never read one person on the board defend what happened at PSU, but a lot of RU fans feel better about themselves by thinking that
oh please. The sanctions! The sanctions!!
What did you guys miss out on with the horrible sanctions? 2 lower tier bowl games? you weren't winning the B1G with the roster before the sanctions either.
Last time I checked soon after the sanctions were announced your coach went out and got the #1 QB in the country. How you suffered!! The NCAA was so mean to you! Then after BOB you go out and spend what 4 million on a coach. You were so handicapped!
Spare us the "woe is State Penn" nonsense. You are lucky you are even playing football at all. I 100% guarantee if that was us we would have been shut down completely.
That's because nobody outside of north jersey gives a sh*t about RU. Ever wonder why every good player from Jersey leaves? I mean legit in 3 years ya'll had 1 NJ top 10 recruit and he was too dumb to even write a paper on Dance appreciation... then you all proceeded to defend him as a "good kid" until he along with the rest of your secondary were arrested for being thugs and robbing people... top flight morals I must say!
If you have no idea what economics majors fit into as far as professionals in business, then you really are clueless. Don't worry buddy, I'm confident enough I make at least 2-3x what you make, my house, car, and bank account will leave you in the dust (I sound like NYC banker). In the words of the great RU Husky, my fellow veteran (yes- USAF medic), " go away Putz"
oh bullshit.
Its all about how State Penn literally can't survive without football. You drones would be wandering around in the hinterlands of Culty Valley bitching and moaning about how unfair things are.
We all love football, but Rutgers University would carry on without it.
And I couldn't possibly imagine rooting for a university that had a head coach who would rather hide the pedophile acts that happened during his watch, then simply have the guy turned over to the authorities, all because he was afraid of the bad publicity it would bring to his university.
I couldn't possibly imagine being afraid to wear my school's sweatshirt in public....knowing that people would be giving me the stink eye for my association with a school with the SINGLE WORST reputation of al universities over the last several years.
I couldn't imagine what it must be like to root for pedophile victims to be proven wrong, rather than rooting for the perpetrators of the cover-up to be sentenced and punished.
But that's the difference between us. I don't place football over the well-being of little kids.
I'm not a fan of a school that is a cult.
I think we should keep making threads like this once a week. It acts as a magnet for PSU posters who come here to troll and for posers who are hiding behind their screen names. Either way, makes it easier for the Mods to come and perform some poster housekeeping all in one place.
As a Catholic I am appalled by what was done by those priests and the clergy who protected them. All of them should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, without exception. I still go to church every Sunday. PSU should not have had their program shut down because of what St. Joe allowed to happen but there is no reason why he. And everyone else involved, should not have been punished to the fullest extent of the law.
Why not? This crime was committed and subsequently ignored simply to protect the football program. So why shouldn't the punishment hurt the football program? Isn't that what punishment is about?
Penn state is one of the top research universities in the country. Football is a minor blip on the radar of what our university stands for. U guys get wrapped up in the football side of it bc well it's a football board but u sounded like a bumbling idiot with that last statement.
Go make some more memes, ur gonna need them for the next 20-30 years until RU may actually beat PSU. That's going to be a funny day when 25 years after the fact u all are still complaining about Sandusky. Sorry bud that's over and done with. We've moved on, but I am flattered that you think about PSU so much that u have a meme maker on speed dial. That's called obsession.
No one yells about Sandusky here. That is just how you DEFLECT it to take the heat off the 4 men who actually protected Sandusky. Classic move by the PSU cult to deflect blame from those who covered up Tickle Monster.
And here in lies the underlying problem,
Which some fans of other schools (Pitt, other big ten schools) have noted to me,the sanctions didn't set back PSU as many had hoped because the way things played out the PSU global community seemed to rally around the team which had nothing to do with anything that happened and caused many recruits who grew up watching PSU football to want to
Come and help save the program...and because the sanctions didn't set the program back,
Many fans of RU and Pitt in particular I believe feel the need to continue to drum these things up in order to boost their own confidence...let's not pretend they actually care about he victims judging by all of the "pedd" jokes thrown around...if they cared about the victims they would be able to discuss in ways that do not mock what happened.
nope you're wrong, State Penn would be nowhere without football. You want to talk about no one giving a shit about a University? Take football away from State Penn and see how wonderful it would be living literally in the middle of nowhere with literally nothing to do
I realize the sanctions will never be coming back and have made my peace with that
What I will never stop is reminding your hideous fans, and everyone else how truly hideous you are.
And I'm glad you like my memes! :)
I realize the sanctions will never be coming back and have made my peace with that
What I will never stop is reminding your hideous fans, and everyone else how truly hideous you are.
And I'm glad you like my memes! :)
Not everyone in the program was involved. Remember it was an assistant coach who started the ball rolling. Joe kept Sandusky in that office so he could control the knowledge and information about Sandusky under control. Had he let him go either to the police or simply fired Sandusky and let him move on then the story could not be controlled. Once it got out it would all come back to PSU and the brand would have been damaged. Joe P was the guy who allowed the pedophile to continue. But the players, boosters, fans etc were not involved. If everyone involved went to jail (which, unfortunately they will not) killing the program forever would not change anything. But, we can disagree on this point. I think we pretty much agree on the rest.
I'd be willing to put up a wager on that one, even giving you the 7 year head start...because if you made 2-3x what I make and you aren't a major contributor to the school and program you would be exactly the problem with RUs atheltic budget woes...but go ahead and trump your half million $$$ salary, but be sure to back it up with the posters in the know on this board who know you aren't one of the high donors...
Where do you get your info? I've read Joe went to the police after the first incident, I've also read Sandusky was no longer on staff when most of the crimes were committed...so how were things "controlled"?
We don't need to wonder, dumb ass! We fired the coach who was the reason no top NJ kids have gone to Rutgers over the last 3 years.
Immediately before Flood took over, we picked up 6 out of the top 10 NJ kids and like 12 of the top 20 when Schiano was in his last year here recruiting.
How stupid are you? I mean, I know you ar brainwashed as a jabot, but to be this stupid as well should be a crime.
You are completely missing the point of my post. I wasn't complaining about the sanctions. Rather, I was pointing out that, in response to the sanctions, it made sense to schedule lighter opponents in an effort to beef up the W-L record. A Penn State that wins 7 or 8 games under sanctions still carries a level of attractiveness to recruits. Had PSU gone, say, 2-10 or 3-9 over the duration of the sanctions it would have created a much larger hole to dig out from.
I typically try not to get involved in the Sandusky discussion here because it's pointless. But since everyone is 100% certain of everyone's culpability in the matter, I'll ask this:
If and when the cases against Curley, Schultz and Spanier are fully dismissed, and/or Spanier's defamation lawsuit proves the Freeh report was paid for by certain Trustees to reach a certain, predetermined conclusion, will any of you change your mind?
I'll sit back and listen. No cult this or cult that, or Joe Paterno definitely covered things up. A lot of you go down that path every day. Humor me for a bit and presume the scenario I posed comes to pass. How would that change things for you five years after the scandal?
If and when the cases against Curley, Schultz and Spanier are fully dismissed, and/or Spanier's defamation lawsuit proves the Freeh report was paid for by certain Trustees to reach a certain, predetermined conclusion, will any of you change your mind?
I'll sit back and listen. No cult this or cult that, or Joe Paterno definitely covered things up. A lot of you go down that path every day. Humor me for a bit and presume the scenario I posed comes to pass. How would that change things for you five years after the scandal?
Yup, just like you said Maryland wouldn't beat you for the next 25-30 years.
Just like you said Temple wouldn't beat you for another 70 years, then they pulled your pants down and spanked you like one of Sandusky's pre-teen boys.
If Penis Head continues to coach at PSU, Rutgers beating the Nittany Tickle Monsters will happen in the next 2 years.
OOC games are often scheduled many years in advance. Not knowing when the games were scheduled relative to the sanctions has an impact on the discussion. Your point is well made if the games were all scheduled after the sanctions. If, however, they were scheduled before the sanctions then the argument changes.
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